just saying even if the sear drops the firing pin safety still has to be depressed in order for it to fire so even if you could get the sear to let the striker go, if the trigger isn’t depressed, no bang.
Will not change or alter a trigger or it's mechanism on any firearm. Seen videos where the trigger bar was pressing up against the firing pin block prematurely. Which made the firearm dangerous if dropped.
Before sending my 10mm model 40 to Cerakote, i edged it off the top of my fridge 3 times onto a hard rubber rug on a tile floor. It didnt let the trigger fire. I figure thats enough. Maybe i should have disassembled and poked a bunch of stuff instead. Carried it for two years since with confidence. (Timney Alpha Glock Large Frame) and ita green.
Every time I watch these tests, nobody strikes the gun in the Proper area to check for drops safety. The gun must be dropped with the barrel, facing up so that it lands on the Beavertail and the back of the slide this will give the trigger enough force to pull itself back and make a full cycle. If it does not cycle, then you have a drop safe pistol.
I have a Glock but still feel uneasy chambering a round if not going to immediately shoot. I once lost grip of my Glock and dropped in while in the kitchen. It fell but the corner of the kitchen drawer handle sort of “caught” the inside of the trigger guard the gun flipped and then fell onto the floor. If it was chambered/cocked may have gone off as the drawer handle definitely got under the guard and the mass of the fall was enough to push the trigger back. A very freak thing but who knows. A simple safety like the beretta would be better for keeping a round chambered and not worrying about freak accidents. Sure it would need a split second to turn the safety off before firing but which scenario is more common? Dropping the gun and it getting caught in something mid fall or having to fire your weapon with no time to flip a safety ?
I may wrong but if the cruciform is pushed down, and goes off the shelf, thats a fail, but the gun still wouldn't fire as the firing pin plunger must be pushed up by the trigger bar so the firing pin can pass thru and hit the primer. So this is one of three safety's that has failed. Trigger stop at the finger, Trigger bar needs to be depressed up into firing pin cavity, and the cruciform slack taken out where the blade is not stopped by the shelf it sits on. How will this test alone tell if the trigger bar need to be taken down to keep the pin off the primer? It did fail, but the pin safety wasn't addressed.
What about a drop with the magazine. Will it hold the magazine or release. And at what point will not only eject the magazine but the magazine release the ballets
An excellent presentation. I had seen another similar video shot a little bit differently, but with yours in addition it is very clear that I can change the trigger out myself with no prior experience. Do the Glock 43's and 43x's use the same trigger assembly?
Itd be nice to see the competitors trigger so I know not to get it. I just got an agency arms trigger. The 1st test it passed and the 2nd test it passed as well but the cruciform moves a tiny bit.
@@gutadin5 I'm talking about how he showed a trigger that had major problems but didn't say the company's name to let people know before they buy them on accident not knowing the problems, I don't know what brand he was talking about
Fine video. But isn't it possible to have inadequate lug/sear engagement (less than 2/3) despite passing all the tests in the video? Then what does one do? I already tried raising the sear per JG video and broke it. I'm not a gunsmith or certified Glock armorer and just wondering about this 'elephant in the room'.
@@LANstorm. Uumm... OK? How is that important to you? Would you like to go back and forth with this? All I am saying is that I take great care of my firearms because the amount of money I put into them.
Very good video in demonstrating the drop safey, that most people do not uunderstand. I would add that the Glock trigger, besides the safety blade on the trigger shoe, is actually a D/A trigger. The striker and it's spring pressure is maintaining the sear assembly onto the "drop shelf". Only a purposely pressed trigger releases the trigger blade safety and allows the trigger arm to press against the striker (compressing the striker spring more) and thus moving the sear assembly off the safety ledge thus allowing the trigger connector to drop the sear off the striker-arm. I have never seen or heard of any reports of a failure in this design. When replacing any springs, especially the striiker, as you demonstrated should be checked including the trigger spring.
I'm wanting to buy a gun for home safety as well as go to a class to learn more about them. I apologize if I sound like a noob, but if you use the factory trigger, the glock is still pretty safe correct?
Glock is one of the only firearms thats literally impossible to "Accidentally Discharge" because it literally cannot fire without the first stage of the 2 stage trigger being pulled first.
Guys before you run up to these trigger companies with a pitchfork do your own research. I too was concerned about my zevtech trigger on my g20 after watching this video so I tested just like he showed and discovered that it did in fact fail the test. However when you put the slide on the fire pin spring pushes the trigger to it's set point which is much more forward than without the slide on. This demo is misleading at best. Like I said do your own research
Thank you so much. I’ve been trying to figure out how the drop safety works. I didn’t know it had anything to do with the ledge on the trigger housing. I appreciate your video. I liked and subscribed. Please keep them coming. Pay no attention to the people who are trying to debunk you or prove you wrong.
He doesn’t drop the gun properly to prove that the trigger will not cycle due to the force of being dropped. The pistol must be dropped with the barrel, facing up so that the beaver tail and the back of the slide hits the ground, giving the trigger enough for us to cycle itself if it’s going to.
Great video. It made me check my G23 and it passed. I didnt drop it like you did i just went through the safety test as you did prior to dropping. Very informative video. Thanks
I don't understand why someone would buy a $500 Glock ( perfection?) and then put in an aftermarket trigger that causes it to be unsafe.???.. I'm pretty happy with my Glock 19 right out of the box. I guess if I had too much money laying around I would start replacing unnecessary components.
To maximize performance according to personal preferences, that's why. Tell you what, don't do the $.25 trigger job or install a minus connector and shoot thousands of rounds at your expense when you can avoid all that from the get-go, and that's not even addressing the issue of custom triggers.
I have a Lone wolf trigger and when I checked the drop safety, it was just at the end of the ledge. Although I was not able to push downward on the cruciform, for added safety I adjusted the trigger to allow a little more pre-travel so the cruciform sits more on the ledge. Thanks for the informative video.