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Love the look of this build. Ive one question tho, how important is the flatness of the terrain? The only place I could find that was close enough to my base(I play on a server where 1 base pr player) has a 4 foundation scaling difference in height (meaning the foundation went up 2 times in one place and down 2 times in another place. Almost every initial arm in the beginning of the build goes up 2 foundations out from the middle aside from 2.
I know you reached out in Discord, but incase anyone else has a similar question. So long as you put your ceiling height at 3 large walls above your highest foundation (even if it's not on the outer edge), you should be fine in regards to the Rhynio not touching the walls or ceiling during the process. If you have issues with too much height difference and notice issues around the tame, you can always try building a platform at the height of your tallest foundation for where you park your tame.
@@lilbrohawk7 Other than overburden from having way more carry weight on yourself and having too much in your inventory when you go to mount up, I'm not sure what else could be the cause sorry.
I see no reason why it wouldn't work on official. As for smaller builds, I had inconsistent success with various other builds. Sometimes they would work, sometimes not. I personally haven't found a small form build that has 100% success rate in impregnation. I would be interested in one too though for sure. This simply traps them in a cage that while impregnating, they don't touch anything and thus "don't know they're trapped"
Sooooo I keep loosing the Rhyns after trapped and I thinks its because of a render issue? I have walked through the gates and had the back render in. I found the Rhyn back in the wild. Any ideas appreciated. Thanks for the videos.
Could be any one of a bunch of things or a combination of them. Are you on pc or console? Someone else was saying console loads things in in a way that caused them issues. What's your render distance? What scenarios is it happening?
@@lohkrim Not sure render distance but this reminded me to look at it as my buddy plays on PS5 and calls stuff out all the time thats out of my render. I'm on PC BTW.
@@lohkrim So I think I have it solved. I have 2 servers, one where I test and use creative and my actual play server. I thinks it’s an issue w Admin mode when you fly up too fast on the structure and it doesn’t give the game a chance to render because of how fast you flew up on it. I have had ZERO issues on the server without creative mode. Just my theory.
How did you discover that the Rhynio would impregnate inside here? Was it just experimenting with different large builds to see which ones works the best? Or is there a mechanic that is specific to this build? Because if it's just the size of it, a WAY more efficient build can be done with stone Behemoth's as walls and Behemoth Cellar doors as ceilings. Could cut structure count down to 1/5. Not sure about material count though, as it would probably end up being around the same amount.
I landed on this after a ton of testing with many different trap build designs of all shapes and sizes. The main 'mechanic' in play here is just to do the process in a 'cage' the bug cannot escape from, without it touching any structure during the process. That was the only thing I could narrow down to every other trap's inconsistencies, contact with a structure. You could definitely do behemoth gates ringed around the bottom that would save you 10 structures per gate. You would need one line of walls to connect to the upper section. If you didn't care about the aesthetic differences, you could probably fill in some of the ceiling areas with behe hatches too and save structure count there, if you wanted to use the same overall shape. I've said before as well, I'm not saying this is the only cage/trap that works or that it's the best. It's just what I found to work reliably, easy to understand for public server use, and aesthetically pleasing for how large it is. I only did a build video for this cage design specifically because it was requested from my taming video. Absolutely make things your own, improve on it, take what you like and toss what you don't. If I've helped at all, I view that as a success. I would love to see iterations or trap designs that work every time without any shenanigans.
@@lohkrim The foundation layout explanation was a bit confusing imo. Like a view from above between each step would make visualizing what youre doing much easier. Great video tho, cheers
Much appreciated for the build video and kiting info. I built something close to your last video. but didnt go as big, because the terrain just didnt allow it. and I also added some blocking walls to one side so it would not agro people or dinos waiting to get impregnated. great video.. keep up the work
Not bad, but pretty expensive for a solo player. As for format, the sped up build guide is better than cutting in and out of build phases, I think. (But to be fair, I'm not going to build this cage, so take other people's opinion over mine)
That's perfectly fair. Also to note, it doesn't have to be built out of metal so long as you don't put it in giga or titano areas. Overall the cage is mainly designed as a way to repeat use a wild rhynio without having to retrap it or do any weird shenanigans to make it work. Certainly good for public/community use. Thank you for the feedback though.
Great build I watched your first video and paused it a lot so I could copy the build, and now I have my first rhynio tame, works exactly as you have shown I had no problems at all so thanks for the videos. I have my own nitrado server just for me, I like to build a lot!!, I found when I left the area and returned on a flyer the building would render in and the rhynio that was captured inside would no longer be inside but flying around outside, I’m on console on Xbox you think it might be a lag issue with console it’s happened every time I go back, oh and I’ve fully enclosed the cage as well, any ideas??
Grats on the first bug. Their utility so good. I've not had that issue personally. I do play on PC though. If I were to guess, it would have something to do with rendering the bug in well before the structures. On our server, I often find bugs in the cage that someone else put there and is still inside. Sadly, I'm not familiar with differences between console and pc in terms of how the game runs and loads things. I don't know if there is anything that could be done to help with that specifically. Maybe someone else can help that's more knowledgeable in that area.
Let me know what you guys think on the format of the video. Since there is a lot of repetitive building, many clips were sped up to 600% to condense video length. The other alternative would have been to not show the whole process. Not sure which would be better. In case I do other build videos in the future, I welcome feedback.
It was done really well dude, wouldn’t change a thing. I thought you could go six gaps between foundation support cause they do three each, are the triangles only two?
@@Ibsmokin Perhaps it was a weird thing with triangle foundations and diagonal? I haven't tested in recent times, but I seem to remember having issues with some ceilings before doing 5 gap. If I'm mistaken, please let me know.
The main area I would think it might have any effect is the center where the tame sits. So long as the Rhynio doesn't touch structures during it's process, should be reliable.
Height wise, this is the lowest ceiling I found I had 100% success rate with. Width wise, there may or may not be room to bring it in a little. I based it off of the distance the rhynio goes from the tame when doing it's inject animation. That way it never touches a structure during it's process. As mentioned in the video, contact with a structure was the only thing I found in all my testing that would cause the process to be inconsistent. I tried many many versions of traps. I'm certainly not saying there is no other way to do it. Just not one that I found in my testing to be 100% reliable, which is what my goal was.
When you get the glitch where it is telling you the wrong craving you can quickly fix it by logging out and then back in. I have seen this glitch 3 or 4 times and that has always worked. Edit: Curious, have you seen a host starve to death before? We have done maybe a dozen of these now on our server and have never force fed them. The health gets down to almost zero but i have never had one starve to death.
I personally haven't. When I was first learning to bug tame, it was something that was mentioned could happen if the server tick landed in a weird spot. With the amount of investment that goes into each bug attempt, I don't like to tempt fate lol. Good to know the logging out can also reset it. I assume it works like flying away to derender it.
@@lohkrim Correct that there is a bug that can cause it to die right at the end before doing it on its own, we had it happen once in about 30 bugs done. But from my understanding force feeding berries to a herbivore doesnt effect the health. From the video the food went up but the health continued to drop per normal. I believe using a veggie cake would give you the peace of mind you want that it will not die before hand.
@@Psychofaith I've not tested with a veggie cake increasing it's health. My understanding is that the incubation timer is basically a timer to when the dino will die from the incubation process draining it's health, hatching when the tame dies. When a dino is starving, it periodically takes a tick of damage from starvation, hence how tames die without food. The goal with force feeding at the very end is to ensure that the tick of damage that kills the tame and hatches the rhynio is from the incubation process itself, not a random tick of damage from starving. If you've tested the veggie cakes way and it works, that'd be good to know as another way to handle it. I'm curious if the incubation timer extends if you feed it something that increases it's health or if it just takes bigger chunks of damage to reach the same timer.
@@lohkrim Yeah not something ive tested but would defo be interesting. From my understanding the health loss is all percent based in line with the incubation time so not sure if healing would even do anything or if the force feeding is even making a difference to reduce the chance of have the bug where it dies before hand. Not sure how that would accurately be tested.. something to ponder!
MEasurements of the trap would be great. also if you could show HOW you get the Rhynio into the trap. and how easy/hard it can be. also.. tip: while looking at the host. with the craving and impregnation timer. if you HOLD H it will also show Egg Quality and Host Quality for you to get a more acurate Idea of what level you Could get.
There seems to be quite a bit of interest in the trap itself. I will see about putting together a build video for it. I gave someone the foundation and wall count measurements, but I'm sure a visual version would be helpful. As for getting the bug in, standard bait it to follow and hope it doesn't find a ptera more interesting. I can add that to the build video though in case others are curious.
Do you by chance have an exact count of the building pieces it took to make? I like how this looks and want to build it but want all the walls etc ready first. I’m definitely interested in watching you build it. I can probably figure it out by pausing but it’s easier to watch a tutorial. Thanks for the info if you have it
@@sandrasaab825 it won't matter, we have 2 public traps and people still make their own. One of the main reasons for this.. is because most official servers encounter griefers and with a public trap you can't lock the doors and people will kill the bugs. thus making the process stupid hard
Without a video to show (which I might do if there's enough interest), the overall is 34 triangle ceilings/foundations from the center 6 hexagon. The open area in the center floor where the tame stands is 3 rings of foundation total empty. The shortest side to the ground depending on where you place it is 12 walls (or 3 large walls) from the foundation. I personally used one large wall worth to wall the entire bottom of the cage from the foundations because ours is in the swamp and it keeps everything but dimorphs out. From there up, the walls have a 1 wall gap, and the ceiling has a 1 row gap between each row of ceilings, with the center filled. Hope that is clear enough. Let me know if not.
Hi, my name is Anthony Stephenson. I hate to give you more work, but theres about 30 people on our official server debating if this will work fully enclosed so that nobody can eat the bug out of spite. Could you possibly fully enclose this and test for us? A detailed video of the dimensions would help also. If you do, I would link your video into my official ark facebook group with over 14,000 members who would all be thrilled to see an enclosed trap that they can build on their official servers. This would be a huge help for the official community if your willing. We only allow videos in the group that we approve, so a video linked by me would help bring many people here for your content as well. Please let me know :)@@lohkrim
We shot for 30k hp then the rest of the points dumped in melee. That group was a bit of a grab bag in terms of base stats as was still getting the line set up. As of right now, the Rex line that is breeding is 45 hp 49 melee base.
Check the description for timestamps or check the chapters. Might have had a mishap with not swapping scenes until a ways in. Gameplay starts with SupCom chapter. Will get better about staying on top of things probably.😅
2 Things. I'm trying a very different format/style to these videos than the youtube norm. Skipping all the intro, outro, and fluff and just giving the information. Let me know what you guys think. Also let me know if you'd like me to do a more in-depth video of any of the topics covered.
