Just would like to know how much better for gear shifting feel of Saga MC2 Manual if compare to Axia E Manual? I like driving manual car. Considering these two cars now.
@@felixgoh7414 Compared to the older Saga BLM models it actually has a smaller compressor for better fuel efficiency. It was very noticeable when we first got this Saga MC2 after switching from a Saga BLM haha. But maybe when comparing to other brands it is, can confirm that the air cond is much cooler than the Axia E.
I own Axia E MT (Manual Transmission) but I usally call it Axia E.M.P.T.Y almost 4 years now. Shifting gears not smooth even during it NEW condition, almost 80,000 KM mileage now. The clutch has bit "sound" when driving long distant now even after turn off car. Need to cool it down for few minutes so the sound will be gone. Work fine even if not cool it down. I go to Services Center for full inspection and they say "need to replace 1 set clutch system. Total cost was RM1.2k".
@@ksam545 yeah, the reason I duplicate the key instead of using the ones they gave is because I put the duplicate key for the boot in the car. Both the key that came with the car have the immobiliser chip in them. So I would like to keep one of the original keys at home just in case instead of putting it in the car.
What do you think of the Axia E having no rear wiper and no rear defogger? Do you apply / put anything to solve this issue? What's it like on rainy days when you try to reverse your car?
It isn't that bad actually believe or not, the rear window doesn't fog up that hard that I wished it has a deforgger. Probably because the car is so small that the aircond does a good job to prevent it from fogging up. And I also never wished it had a rear wiper maybe it's due that I frequently drive sedan cars that doesn't have rear wipers in the first place.
Thank you! The driving experience for the Vios is better than the Saga as its more stable, smooth, quiet, spacious and powerful. But the Saga has a much more better gear shifter. The Vios is better when it comes to long distance driving and hauling friends as that's what I primarily used it for. The Saga is good but not better in long distance driving and hauling passengery but it's better in town driving than the Vios as its more nimble and fuel efficient in this scenario.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah, I need a family car that's at least fun to drive, hence the manual so I'm looking through all the options that we have here in Msia. Trying not to go with cars that are too old, but if so, the only options are Persona up to 2020, Saga latest, and Vios keli MT. I'm still skeptical on Proton's long term quality, especially with the little things like their power windows and what not. And also looking at your oil sump leak in the Saga, that doesn't bode well. Have you tried the Persona 2020 MT? I still hate that the Vios and the Persona low specs don't have folding rear chairs. Also, the Vios with no HHA, is it a huge downside compared to the Saga? What do you think?
Both our Vios and Saga has no Hill Hold Assist (You'll have to get the premium AT Saga varient for that if I'm not mistaken). For me so far I never used the Saga's rear folding seat feature yet and I never once wished that the Vios has rear folding seats, the boot it's super large for me. Proton Persona 2020 I don't really have much experience, only driving it a few times. I still preferred the first gen Persona because it had rear indepent suspension which made it corner super well unlike the current Persona which downgraded to rear solid beam suspension like the Saga hence handles similarly. When it came to the oil sump issue it's more towards Proton's assembly plant problem instead of the cars reliability. The power windows yeap you're right they still have issues, I have a friend for bought a Persona 2023 and the drivers side window failed before 10,000KM.
But honestly, Proton Saga's engine and transmission reliability is very good. We had a Saga BLM which almost made it to 500,000KM millege as we replaced it with the new Saga. It also had oil leaks before because of not well sealed gaskets from the factory. But after replacing the gaskets it didn't have any major problems (apart from the power window) and only broke down the side of the road once because the engine crank shaft sensor failed at around 370,000KM millege. Another thing I might want to warn you if you're getting a Proton is the Proton service center is very bad in not following SOP. I encountered many issues with my Proton service center, they actually refused to fix my engine oil leaking problem immediately. I had to call Proton HQ and they swiftly helped me with the issue, warning the service center for not follow SOP and told me to immediately drop the Saga off to get the oil sump resealed on the same day.
@@aminyusuff7 Drive with caution, don't drive fast, don't corner hard and keep a safe distance with the car ahead of you. The reason are because the suspension is soft, car is light which makes the rear tyres easily loose traction plus skinny stock tyres and no Anti-lock Braking System (ABS ).
@@sammeowp I would recommend the Raigor III WG12 since it's newer. But so far the Cruiser WG11 is not a bad choice since until this day it's still working flawlessly.
@@dysha Ada satu kali dari Sepang ke Sg. Buloh dalam heavy traffic untuk 3 jam. Tidak ada driver fatigue , tinggi clutch dia ngam ngam so tidak ada rasa kaki kiri sakit. Tiada complain. Dlm 3 jam saya comfortable.
In my opinion, with the rear seats folded down, it shouldn't be a problem. Maybe it's slightly possible to fit it without the rear seat folded at all. For reference, I did a measurement of the rear boot without folding the rear seats. Width: 21.5inch Length: 35.5inch (between the suspension covers). Height: 33.5inch. Please do note that the rear hatch door and rear seats when upright is slanted, the width at the highest point will be reduced to around 12.5inch.
Different of 2 litre is not bad but having larger room and storage seems like saga is a better choice but I think this would be a proper comparison if there was a Bezza you can test on
For a proper first car, the Saga is definitely a better choice. Funny thing was, we tried to get the Bezza 1.0 MT, but after one and a half years of wait Perodua auto cancelled the bookings without telling us, we only knew about it when we called Perodua asking where's our car. The Saga on the other hand, was ready stock and we got it within two weeks. But anyways, i'm pretty sure there are plenty of videos comparing the Saga with Bezza so I think there shouldn't be an issue to find a comparison between these cars. But for me personally, I have driven both 1.0L and 1.3L, the 1.0 Bezza with AT transmission is very underpowered and the 1.3 Bezza is good but the stability is not there, I can feel the car trying to tip over whenever I corner. I'm actually quite lucky to say that thanks to Perodua cancelling our Bezza, we got a way better car for almost the same price.
Proton Saga MC2 Standard MT Fuel Consumption . Highway (Sg.Buloh R&R BHP to Sepang Petronas) Via NSE and ELITE Distance covered : 67.2KM Fuel consumed : 3.62L KM/L : 18.564 KM/L . Mix (BHP TTDI to Sepang Petronas) via Jln Damansara, Bangsar, Federal Highway, Seremban Highway and MEX. Distance covered : 47.6KM Fuel consumed : 2.93L KM/L : 16.246 KM/L . Traffic Jam/stop and go (BHP TTDI to BHP TMN Desa) via Jln Damansara, Jln Gasing (pass by UM), Federal Highway and Old Klang Road. Distance covered : 16KM Fuel consumed : 1.13L KM/L : 14.159 KM/L . If you would like to watch the video its here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UZGJAVbxOUw.html
Don't think so... I asked about it they said its maybe because it wasn't sealed properly in the factory, and I'm not the first Saga owner to have this issue. They said there were a few new Saga who also had this issue and all of them were equiped with AT.
I won't say they are equal in reliability, because the Axia has a Daihatsu engine which is well known for it's Japanese reliability. The Saga MC2 is reliable, a workforce for the Malaysian people that won't let you down. Just sometimes it'll act up because Proton isn't know for it's workmanship and final inspection. Like for example recently I had to get the Saga MC2's oil sump to be resealed, it wasn't sealed properly from the factory and there was a slight oil leak. The parts are good, the engine is good and the quality of parts are good. But workmanship in the factory when assembling and final checks are lacking.
@@ethansrandomvideos6312 I got u meant. By d way, owners always face a bit difficult to shift between gears in Axia, and it's shift stick somehow feel like a toy. What ur though on this?
@@truckman7123 Yeah it gets some time being used to the Axia's gear shifter. It's rough, far from smooth like the Saga. For me after driving one week with the Saga or Vios and when I go back to the Axia, I frequently didn't manage shift all the way into third gear because I wasn't hard enough. But after a few days I got back used to it and shifting gears is fine.
Malas sekarang lah hahaha, ada final exam I, i bagi bos info sekarang. Jika Highway sahaja dan tidak lebih 100km/h, fuel consumption Saga boleh dapat 18.8km/l. Dalam bandar sahaja dgn lampu traffic stop and go fuel consumption 14.3km/l. Combine boleh dapat 16.1km/l.
@@ethansrandomvideos6312 mantap dh ni fuel consumption dia. Nnt bos buat review video saya yakin ramai nk tgok. Caranya, sblom start test, isi penuh smpai tendang. Brape liter check. Lps tu test bwk kete dlm 20-30km. Isi minyak semula. Check brape liter.
Hi! Great review. Proton owner and former Proton Service Advisor here. I currently drive an Iriz 1.6, previously owned the original Saga VVT. I honestly miss that car, I would've kept it if it wasn't for the unstable nature of its CVT, which has been greatly improved on my Iriz. I really recommend new car buyers to get the Saga, especially in its current form. Spacious enough, quite reliable, easy to maintain, comfortable and fun to drive. Just a slight correction, current Protons, are no longer tuned by Lotus, and it hasnt been so since the Suprima S if I'm not wrong. However, they are tuned by Proton Ride and Handling team, which are VERY capable in their own right having learned from Lotus over the years. They may no longer be tuned by Lotus, but the essence is still there!
Thank you for the comment! Really happy to see someone liked my super low budget review haha. Regarding the Saga MC2 with Lotus handling remark. From what my Sifus / technicians said, since the Saga VVT (first version of the MC2) which was released on 2016 before the year Geely took Proton and therefore Proton still owned Lotus. Not only that but the chassis of the Saga VVT/MC2 is just a slightly extended version of the Saga BLM which was tuned by Lotus. So, technically, we could say that the Saga MC2 has a chasis originally tuned by Lotus but also later improved by Protons ride and handling. Also in my opinion, and majority I talk to, Saying the handling is tuned by Lotus sounds more interesting when taking about the Saga hahaha. So there's no right or wrong actually.
Axia is a great car.. Highly reliable.it wont let you down. Its not a performance but practical and reliable. The unlock passenger its not an issue for axia advance.
thanks for your honest review , i was considering between saaga manuel and axia e, youbgave me very useful insight. hate that axia not come with central lock and trunk need to open with key, if have it it is perfect with the price
Central lock and trunk release for Axia E I dont think this was the issue as we can install it via accessories shop with just about Rm200 - 300. For me, the Axia E main let down points is no ABS or ESC system☹。
@@SameSame-gv8ln Yeah but it's already an inconvenience to go after market to some so it's still considered an issue. Plus we won't know how long will the after market parts last, a single original lock assembly from Perodua for one door already cost 95MYR.
The standard versions of the Saga only has a center dome light, the Premium versions does not have a center dome light but two separate interior lights located at the front near the center rear view mirror.
