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Jones was less a character than an archetype borrowed from old matinee movies. Movie serials that nobody under the age of 75 have seen so the association is lost on us.
Raiders is a brillianty written lean and economic action adventure throwback to the pulp cliffhanger movie serials of Lucas and Spielberg's childhood. They don't need great character depth but just enough motivations to keep the story and action barrelling along which is the whole point of the film. And yes, The Mummy and countless other movies, tv shows, video games since are taking directly from Raiders.
It is true that Indy can be considered a common "grave robber", but fortunately he has good morals, because everything he finds goes to a museum. As you will discover in the following films, "It belongs in a museum" is his famous motto. For info: At the end of the movie, the Ark of the Covenant is stored in Area 51.
Welcome back! Indy as a handsome jerk is a good take - he's definitely not an ethical hero, but I think develops some good traits as he goes along. The big guy he fights by the plane is the late Pat "Bomber" Roach, a legendary pro wrestler with a sideline in acting - Brits of a certain age will know him from his many TV appearances, and I always get a kick out of seeing him.
Great reaction, though a bit much over thinking. Some speculate that Marion was 17 at a time when the age of consent was 16. Indie was a graduate student, maybe 22. Again, not too unusual at the time. And this was based on the old B&W adventure serial films and pulp magazine stories. And also Indie is all about the relics which "should be in museums."
the scene where Indy shoots the flamboyant swordsman was not in the original script. Harrison Ford was supposed to use his whip to get the sword out of his attacker's hands, but the food poisoning he and the rest of the crew had gotten made him too sick to perform the stunt. Ford suggested shooting the guy and Spielberg filmed that The tarantulas on Alfred Molina (Doc Ock of Spider-Man movies) were not moving because they were all male. Then a female was added and in Molina’s words, “all hell broke loose.”
I can't wait for you to react to "Indiana jones and the temple of doom" (1984) which is even better and my favorite of the whole franchise ;) For me, it's the ultimate adventure film ^^ But be aware it way darker than the first one. It's even more like a horror movie in which they put Indy in. In fact, it was so violent it created the PG-13 rating that didn't exist before. Also, don't be surprised by the new Indy's love interest to be incompetent and the comic relief. It was a personal joke from Spielberg and Lucas to create the next female character to be the total opposite of Marion :)
Ever since I learned how to walk in heels and took ballet lessons I ONLY wear heels from 5 & a half inch to 7 inch heels! And I got used to being able to run in them too. I got rid of all my flat shoes years ago! ALL MEN love to see us in dresses! At least she knew as I do the dress was backless so it called for no bra straps! The only thing I wouldn't like about THAT dress is having to sit on that flower all the time! Back then we were always considered to be just property. That is also why on the boat the other man mentioned selling her! It was and still is common for us to be sold for money! I get excited thinking about it happening to me!👍👍😉😉👱♀👱♀👗👗👠👠❤❤
Love your intro and positive energy. ❤️ welcome to our world of indiana... Adding to your thoughts and questions, you'll find answers. The worst can be the best in a diferent way. People say it suck. I love it. Just watch and give your opinion. I love all. Cgi suck on one of them but still good. Hope you enjoy.
Obviously, this film inspired a number of different, later films (as the Star Wars films did). Some of the most prominent: The 'Mummy' films with Brendan Frasier (they were late 90's; 'Raiders' was a 1981 release). The three Lara Croft: Tomb Raider films; The pair of films that began with 'Romancing The Stone' and continued with 'Jewel of the Nile' with Kathleen Turner and Michael Douglas (mid-1980s). ...It's speculation as to whether the Ghostbuster films were inspired by the success of 'Raiders'; the point in common, is that they're rag-tag adventurers poking around in dangerous areas with powerful obstacles (human and supernatural)... and that the stars are (usually) masculine, resourceful, sexy and funny, all at the same time. ALL of the above are worth seeing, and possibly reacting to. •••• Belloq isn't completely wrong when he says to Indy, "I'm a shadowy reflection of you." But in my experience, evil (or 'the road to hell') always attempts to obliterate crucial distinctions; to fail to keep separate that which is inherently separate. Both Indy and Belloq go after valuable artifacts, but Indy wants to be paid for the service of bringing hidden, priceless objects to the world (transferred from their hidden initial sites, to museums where the public can appreciate them and where scientists can study them.) Belloq wants the object (the Ark) so that Hitler's armies can defeat the world, and the Nazis can then impose totalitarian enslavement. (The film doesn't go into Belloq's motivation all that much; But, he's working with Hitler and is involved at a high level with a project that (they hope) will turn the tide towards the Nazis in the upcoming war. That's enough.) Indy's approach (now) to Marion is to offer a small fortune to her for the Staff of Ra headpiece, and (initially) to keep her out of the adventure (out of harm's way). Belloq, and the people on his side, collectively threaten to torture her, kill her, and crudely use Marion for their own purposes. Certainly G-d thought that there was a difference - when He (or his Angel of Death) destroys Belloq (after inflicting terror on him and on the Nazis), while sparing Indy and Marion. (One can argue whether Indy and Marion were spared because they kept their eyes closed and refused to look at the Holy beings, or whether they were spared because they were the only good people at the scene; Fair enough. The film emphasizes the point that they didn't look, but I like to think that G-d would have spared them even if they had "snuck a peek," because they alone were the humans at the scene representing opposition to extreme evil, and thus, were on G-d's side.)
The Indiana Jones trilogy is very much in the 'pulp' wheelhouse. Fist-fights, beautiful damsels, a hero who may get roughed up but cannot be beaten, treasure, etc. Sometimes mystical, sometimes not, but usually wild over the top excitement. Pulp has been around for over a century, dating back at least to H Rider Haggard's Allan Quartermain novels of the late 1900s (adapted into 2 80s movies with Sharon Stone - King Solomon's Mine and Lost City Of Gold) The mummy is more inspired by those stories and others of the heyday (as well as the Universal Pictures Mummy) than Indiana Jones, but without the success of IJ, I doubt we would have had the 80s & 90s pulp revival. The Shadow (Alec Baldwin & Ian McKellan), The Phantom (Billy Zane), and The Rocketeer (directed by Joe Johnston, of Captain America 1) are all great examples of pulpy movies. Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park author) wrote a pulp adventure of his own that also got a movie adaptation - Congo, with Laura Linney, Tim Curry, and Ernie Hudson
i heard the scene were indy shoots the swoordsman was writin out to be a large fight scene but Harrison Ford came down with a case of dysentery so they just changed it to "ahh just shoot him"
Sounds like you might like Alan Rickman. Have you ever seen "Robin Hood Prince of Thieves"? Alan Rickman is in that movie along with a few other well known actors.
I was a teen when I saw this movie and it was a cultural phenomenon. I don't think any of us wondered about Indy's and Marion's relationship. Of course, none of us could've imagined that it was anything gross. Back then it wasn't unusual for women to marry young and have kids. My Mom was 19 and my Dad was 29 when I was born. It didn't seem like it mattered to the rest of the movie though, which is probably why it was never expounded on. There are several relationships in the movie that had no back story but, as a teen, we didn't care. We took everything at face value. Back in 1936, archeology was a bit of an adventurous and dangerous job. The world was becoming a dangerous place as it marched towards World War II. Did they kill people? I wouldn't be surprised. Most archeology in the 30s occurred in lawless places. Bringing in a fabulous artifact to the British Museum of other institution would make you a celebrity, the museums at the time weren't picky about how you got it. As for killing people, they were Nazis. By the time of this movie, 1936, the Nazis were already opening their concentration camps. Laws against Jews, gypsies, gays, etc were already being enforced. Nobody felt sorry for Nazis. The Nazis were superstitious and into the occult and were already scouring the world for ancient artifacts that might be beneficial for them. In that light, Indy was trying to save civilization by making sure the Nazis didn't get their hands on it. For a teenage boy, this was all like an adventure book come to life. Watching this movie, our eyes were like cat's eyes when they're fully dilated. We were all in. Very exciting.
Lots of people keep saying Alan Quartermine as an influence. It’s influence are the serials of the 30s and 40s that where being televised in the 50s when the ‘berg and Lucas were kids. One of the serials that Raiders is influenced by is Nyoka and The Tigermen as well as Buck Jones in Gordon of Ghost City (check out CH. 1 has the exact same stunt as the desert scene) The Raiders font was similar to the one sheets for the serials.
31:04 "Was this a book or anything or just something they came up with?" The template for this type of character is Alan Quartermain from H Rider Hagard's 1885 novel "King Solomon's Mines." There were four movie adaptations before Raiders, and then the success of the Indy movies enabled another adaptation in the 80's starring Richard Chamberlain and Sharon Stone. The character was one of the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen," portrayed by Sean Connery. Indy's costume is a direct lift of the character Harry Steele, portrayed by Charton Heston in "Secret of The Incas" 1954
I love this movie with my heart and soul, so we tend to ignore the Marion death fake-out. Or rather we forgive it because the rest of the film is thrilling, the leads have charisma to burn, there is excellent chemistry between the heroes and villains, beautiful shots, believable characters, witty dialogue, and grimy, physical, yet still spectacular in-camera stunts and effects. We don't forgive the exact same Chewbacca death fake-out because The Rise of Skywalker lacked all of the above.
@@rimasmuliolis1136 You should here the recordings, he at least admits his faults unlike some who have a whole network of federal agents attacking those that raise the question.
Face palm: She's WAY over thinking it, this was based on the 1930-40s serial adventure shorts Spielberg (and everyone in the theatre) used to see for a quick 5-10 minutes before the feature film would come on....Indiana is basically 'adventure man', it doesn't go any deeper than that.
That was the original rendition of the script that Marion was 15 and Indy 25 but was too icky even for the 1920's and especially for the 1980's so they changed it to Marion being 17 and Indy 27. Still creepy but not pederastic.
@@ronweber1402 Too many people get too hung up on that. It wasn’t long ago in American history that you could get married and have kids legally with a wife as young as 14. Loretta Lynn did it. There are thousands of families who came from the same kind of thing. In the Old West if you weren’t married by 15, you were an old maid.
@@ronweber1402 Too many people get too hung up on that. It wasn’t long ago in American history that you could get married and have kids legally with a wife as young as 14. Loretta Lynn did it. There are thousands of families who came from the same kind of thing. In the Old West if you weren’t married by 15, you were an old maid. Even God impregnated Mary when she was about 14-15.
@@hawkmaster381 Agreed, it drives me up the wall. The age of consent around the time this film is set was 16 in the majority of the USA. Nowadays even *more* US states have that limit (it was reduced in many). The obsession with 18 is ONLY because of film-making being mostly in California where the age is and has been 18 through the last century. Back in the late 1800s it was 10-12. That is not a typo. (Except in Delaware, where it was 7!)
The end the government agrees with you: hide the Ark in dark place and never let anyone see it again. Handsome jerk? The movie is set in an era before widespread archaeology agreements. The distinction between archaeologist and treasure hunter was not carefully delineated. See also Elgin Marbles. Spielberg and Lucas also take inspiration from old time serials from the 1920s and 30s like (Darkest Africa). Indiana took advantage of Marian at the estimated age of 15. That kind of c**p was more tolerated but it was still wrong. I do not know if there is official borrowing save Mummy 2 to Lara Craft. Within a genre they do a lot of borrowing and shared backgrounds. Star Wars borrowed from Flash Gordon and was borrowed into Star Crash.
Hello, I just found your channel and I'm enjoying your video. I don't know if you've seen the Lord of the Rings movies yet but Indie's friend Sallah 15:02 also Plays Gimli the Dwarf in the Lord of the Rings movies. I'm looking forward to checking out more of your videos.
Yes! Lord of the Rings are some of my favorite movies of all time. I was thinking of doing a rewatch on here but I don’t know if enough people would be interested in that
@@cinemawithsteph I am interested in seeing that. The Lord of the Rings are great movies. I have the extended versions of the movies on Blu-ray. What do you think seeing Gimili as a normal person in this movie lol. Have you seen the movie called "Goonies" from the 80's? It has a really young (kid) Samwise Gamgee as the main character. Also the kid from Goonies named Data is in the next Indiana Jones movie which is called "Temple of Doom".
As far as Star Wars goes, just watch the first 3 ever made (A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. Don't waste your time with the rest.
Ford and Allen were 39 and 30. Feel free, since the movie never states, to think of them as 18 and 27 when the relationship happened. Lucas, while brainstorming the story, speculated that she could be 11, then 12, then 15, and stated "Once she's sixteen or seventeen it's not interesting anymore." The novelization made her 15. Never idolize your favorite creators. While maybe not as icky in 1936, it was pretty icky in 1980 still. I never questioned the dress back then. Just a way to get the damsel in distress into a pretty dress. In today's lens, it is pretty odd that he had a pretty white dress around just in case he happened to capture a girl. Salah was working on the dig site with equipment. He just recruited some of his friends and took some equipment. Contacts are fine for a few hours if you're not doing work where you concentrate on stuff (and not blink). If you can't adjust, don't worry, you looked great in your glasses! Yep, The Mummy stole (very successfully) from this movie and the genre. No, we don't care about killing Nazis. Or Nazi monkeys. They (Spielberg, Lucas, Kasdan) created the story, but based it off of the serial movie adventures they'd seen as kids. It's definitely a generation gap type of thing (but a good statement on how the world has evolved to be more fair to women), but back in the day a macho selfish jerk who always succeeded made him a "hero". The fact that he got the hell beat out of him while always succeeding was what made this movie super interesting. With your view, you'll probably hate 2, and come back to your feelings here on 3, as it's generally regarded as on par with 1 but really slightly better.
Indy: July 1, 1899 Marion: March 23, 1909 Regardless of the legality concerning age of consent, and whatever was seen as acceptable, Marion recognizes that she still wasn’t really psychologically mature at her age a decade ago.
Great to see you back, And starting with a "Classic " believe it or not Harrison Ford wasn't 1st Choice to play Indy. It was supposed to be Tom Selleck , but he was contracted to do Magnum PI tv series. So They ended up with Harrison instead, and he played him for over 40 years. 👍
Some people freak out about the "I was a child" line, thinking Indy must've been a pedophile (YOU didn't freak out, but you were concerned). But two things. First, as we age, we use the term "child" about ourselves when we were 18, 19, 20, or even older. It's hyperbole. We were adults, but we weren't mature, so we were like a child. I think that's the sense in which she used that phrase. She was an adult, but a young, impressionable adults, so she was a child. And second, it doesn't say how old he was at the time. Maybe she was 20 and he was 25. So people need to stop taking the term "child" so literally.
I think just because it wasn’t elaborated on is the problem, especially in today’s climate, but I totally understand what you’re saying. I think I reference that possibility in the discussion part 🤔
Indy was born in 1899, and Marion was born in 1909. In the 1920s, the age of consent in the US was generally between 16 and 18, depending on the state, and the societal reaction to a 27 year old and 17 year old being in a relationship could range from getting side eyed some to not even batting an eye about it.
Fun Facts! The idol in the intro is supposed to be overtly a supernatural object with eyes that move, but the mechanism didn't look right in closeups so they dumped the idea, but you can still see the eyes watching Indy as he approaches. The whole "length of the staff" thing was added in post production. Originally the instructions on the staff head piece were about which hole to slot the staff, a sequence which remains in the film without explanation. The idea of the adventuring college professor would get a bump out of this with many movies cashing in on the idea... badly, but The Iger Sanction is worth watching for the beautiful visuals.
Indiana Jones is supposed to be an enigmatic character. The role of professor is kind of like his alternate persona similar to Clark Kent and Indiana Jones, the globe trotting archeologist, is his Superman persona. Jones had a relationship with Marion when he was a colleague of her father. She was probably in her late teens or early twenties and after he and her father left on various adventures, she felt like she had been used by a somewhat older man and their feelings had not been mutual (she loved him, but not the other way 'round). Hence, the pent up anger towards Indy over the years spent apart. Though, she was kind of a scoundrel like Indy, so old feelings were rekindled when he stepped through the door of her bar.
@@cinemawithsteph No problem. I grew up with the Indiana Jones films and so tended to pick up on things through making-ofs and little hints you get on second or third viewings. Little throwaway comments made, side glances, and character traits. These older films tended to imply a lot of back story rather than spell everything out. I like a script that doesn't spoon feed you too much information and makes you figure some items out yourself.
I've sometimes wonder how many reactors knew that the original title for this was just Raiders of the Lost Ark. As this was the first movie, success was not guaranteed, so Indiana Jones was not added until the second movie. Now, it's common to see this movie called by its new title, probably just to let people know that it is part of a franchise of movies.
I didn’t know that! It makes total sense. I feel like now people just assume franchises will work out so they start with the full title and hope for the best lol
Here’s some information about the actual Ark of the Covenant in the Hebrew Bible, the Ark of the Covenant is the large golden chest that carries the tablets the Ten Commandments were written on. In addition to its physical attributes, it was also imbued with mystical and spiritual significance. Some Jews thought it contained the presence of Yahweh, the God of the Israelites, Hebrews 9:4 states that the Ark contained "the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant." Revelation 11:19 says the prophet saw God's temple in heaven opened, "and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple." Hebrews 9:4 states that the Ark contained "the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant." Revelation 11:19 says the prophet saw God's temple in heaven opened, "and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple."
What, teachers can't be bad ass? That's stereotyping. It's a movie, the relationship was a means to find the Ark. There is no more relationship with her moving forward. Next one, his love interest in the movie actually turns into Spielberg's wife in real life.
