@@bugsisland3061 well one thing I know is x_pilot is coming out with an AI for peach and DK as he said on his stream this past week. So eventually we might get to see that happen.
These AIs don't play, man. Even Aklo was getting cooked in the Fox ditto. But at least I took the last game, haha! For not really playing that much anymore, I did pretty good, haha. Next time x_pilot streams, give it a shot yourself. You'll be surprised how tough they can be. These aren't 20XX AIs.
In what way specifically? bc I feel like a lot of people just arbitrarily assign value to controller now and ignore the decades of melee that was highly technical already
@@sageryfrekenstein Haha don't worry, I'm 33, and I played melee competitively for 20 years. So I don't ignore these decades. What's very hard to do with a controller is very cleans long dash dances mixed with short ones. With a boxx, or frame1 or keyboard, it's actually very easy. Also the backair after a jump is quasi impossible to do with a controller, or you have to switch your grip to claw, a thing I do in some particular situations, but for example, this jump double jump moving forward backair at 11:28 seems very Boxx'y. Another thing that makes me think it's human can be described at 12:07, why doing dash-dances and then jump left like that? To me this looks like a missed wavedash (too early air-dodge which leads to nothing). Many many interactions and combos are human-like. I'm not saying there are for sure human, I'm saying it looks very very human to me and I don't feel like they are soooo technical. Ice/Leffen/Hax/Mango/etc... are more technical than that. If you find some clip where it's obvious it's AI, please answer me with the timestamp :D
"Tonight on Smash Face Off, We'll see who would win in a fight between Fox and Marth. Who do you think would win Mark?" "I don't know Larry, lets run the simulation and find out."
I'm guessing it's a result of AI giving "points" or value to anything that results in less frequent deaths. Or it could be that the AI learned or was programmed to shine-stall if recovery was impossible. This would be helpful in cases where both players have no possible way to recover in a last stock situation. I don't think it helps recovery distance.
30 seconds into the and the Marth immediately dash back grabbed and tried to cheese, then landed from angel platform and spammed fsmash. The Fox naired into the corner then got smoked by fsmash. Melee is a universal language. Thank you for giving me the ammunition to justify calling my fsmash spamming Gold Marth opponents bots.
@@Jack-vx5ge it’s funny you mention that because they seem much more aggressive against real people. I saw a Marth last night try to CC dtilt falco and Falco just countered it with cc into an aerial.
Okay since you keep doing it (and muting you is getting old) if you do it one more time I’m locking commenting on this video. So just stop you’re not going to win.
How cool would it be if we did AI programmed players tournaments and companies would fight against each other. Would Fox always win? I would love to see that
