I ableton, my project is 128. If i reopen my project after i saved it it is back at 120 bpm and i have to change it back to 128. Do you know why this is happening? Also sometimes some effects won't work after a while. I added some OTT and i think a while later it said "Lost the connection to the Audio". if i deleted it the sound got back, but i also had this with a few other effects(third party plugins). Also my midi files where overlaying notes. for the rest i love ableton more than FL!
I actually like the fact that clips/patterns in FL Studio are linked. Or at least it is nice to have the option of linking them in Ableton... but it isn't available.
Industry Producers use PRO TOOLS, very a few of them use LOGIC or CUBASE not ABLETON LIVE or FL STUDIO. AB LIVE is a 1# weapon a for Djs & Electronic Producers. same thing for FL is a preferred choice for hip hop & beatmaker. when it comes to Industry Standard production or recording studios PRO TOOLS still dominating the game
9:35 Nah I was using it as a first daw and recording and aligning things was always broken. It might be a skill issue, but in Bitwig/Reaper it comes naturally easy to work with audio
Can you record vst "performance" as automation in Ableton? Like in FL where you play the track, record yourself making changes to serum's parameters, then hit stop and an automation with your performance is produced.
I've been watching mix elite stuff. I like the start to finish videos he does. I bet you could do one better! I like how you just had 13 tracks and sounds amazing! His videos are pretty lengthy/ borderline tedious, but good at helping push me forward. Also debating on switching to Ableton (saw your other video on that also👍). Great video!
I started with Fl Studio after trying to learn Ableton in 6 Years, now that i know Ableton i know that is pretty much a Waste of time, Fl Studio is Way better in any sense, I make Pretty Much any Genre and my Workflow is really Fast, and Yeah when i use Ableton everything dosn't make sense, is Shit, but Give me a Mouse a Keyboard and Fl And everythig sounds Crazy.
This video is just 5 months old, but you seem to be oblivious to many additions that both Live and FL did recetly(ish), e.g. MIDI generators & transformers in Live and linking of patterns, playlist & mixer tracks in FL, which solve a lot of the cons you've mentioned.
I have FL, Ableton, Bitwig and Reaper. Different DAWs make different stuff easy, and hard. What's easy tends to shape what you do with a given DAW. I do wish Image Line would improve how FL can be used as a VST (esp. host automation), so you could use it as you would Reason as a VST. Bounce in place is a glaring omission in Ableton; lack of step entry like Reaper, Ableton and FL is a glaring omission in Bitwig. Reaper's improving, but is short of Ableton and Bitwig's way of doing racks, esp with macros. Of the four, FL is the one I use the least. My main use for it is the synths and FX it comes with, which you can't use outside FL. So Generally i'll produce loops that I can then import into Reaper, Ableton, or Bitwig projects.
One particular example workflow wise was taking a 90s sample CD, where there are 99 tracks of audio, and the samples occur within those tracks, separated by silence, and the task is to turn that into a collection of audio loops like one would find with a modern sample pack. In Reaper this is dead straight forward, with a few custom actions and keyboard combos assigned for the purpose (e.g. \ takes me to the last transient in a selected clip, Shift-\ takes me to the first transient in a clip, Shift-A trims a clip to the time selection, Q sets the time selection to selected items, and a few others). Then you can select mass rename clips based on their track name (so I have one track per category), and then with the resulting 1200 individual clips, I can bounce them all to individual audio cllips with a single use of the render window. This would have taken me much longer with any of the other DAWs I have, prohibitively longer. On the other hand, for producing electronic tracks like trance and techno, Ableton and Bitwig have a nicer and less fiddly workflow. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
Just switched to ableton this past week, well got ableton lite but good way to test it out. Been spending like three hours a day after work trying to figure things out. I can say I finally get it. Automation, mixer, fx rack. Most importantly I would say the UI is less cluttered. Only pet peeve is the piano roll. Best thing is the sampler. FL sampler feels really outdated that I started using waves cr8 sampler awhile back. Saw that Thomannmusic has an upgrade for lite to suite for $475. Might re do edmprod foundations course but in ableton to learn it inside out.
Great video. Up until about 6 months ago I had both Live 11 and FL, but sold my licence for Live to focus on FL for a bit. However, you have highlighted something that caught me out quite a few times and that is the make unique function, which I agree can be very frustrating until you get used to it as part of the work flow. I messed up quite a few parts of a track with that. And also the automation lanes. The pay once model for FL is excellent, I have owned it for over 12 years and continue to get all the latest updates. I am considering whether to get Live again, firstly for the reasons you mentioned, 2nd because a lot of the producers I follow use it, so it makes relating to what they do easier, but also for collaborations.
I used FL for 17 years started when I was 16 yo and was a diehard fl user..up until a few weeks ago I have ableton standard now. Ableton does ALOT WAYYYYY easier than FL guys. It’s definitely faster to get your ideas out.
FL is a minefield of unnecessary faffing around at times - for instance, how hard can it be to save entire mixing settings in one fell swoop so you can load that mixer into a previous FL file? It's no good loading it up one mixer channel at a time. Ridiculous. And don't even mention 'export bare bones' - Really? And then load up every data file into every single pattern after loading up every instrument and then the automation files which never seem to work. Insane. Drag channel buttons into a group instead of having to 'write' them in. And crossfades by simply dragging either end of the clip? How long did it take them to put those in? The constant swapping of tools to perform simple tasks, having to position the cursor on top of the time line to mouse-wheel it bigger, the bizarre use of language in the menus (I think the devs are Belgian which might explain it.....) The saving grace of FL Studio is the piano roll which makes programming things really easy - so long as you don't want any pitch-bender info to move with the notes when you reposition them LMFAO.... Cackhanded DAW but useful. Not so much a single tool but a big box full of useful tools seemingly thrown in at random. if you've got the time to rummage around to find the one you want you might get lucky. FL is a glorified sequencer with some great synths. As an audio recorder you are basically eating soup with a fork.
I believe a talented musician/producer could make great tracks on whatever DAW they should happen to use. Like John Lennon once said " I'm a musician, if you give me a tuba, I'll make music with it"
After leaving FL 1 year ago, I've seen my mixes change so drastically I could finally get the sound in my head out of my DAW, not only for myself, but for my clients. Ableton is very conservative, it's not supposed to be a 'fun' DAW and I think that's what makes it spectacular, because what people take 3 minutes to do in FL, Ableton will force you to spend 10 minutes in it. All these things seem like a nuisance, but by the end of it, you realise your track is coming together so perfectly, you even barely need to do much in the Mixing stage. Coincidence that I got better after time? I'm not sure, but my mixes finally had more clarity, separation and loudness and all of that happened when I switched to Ableton. Oh lastly, the Automation alone is worthy of switching to Ableton. Peace!
Thanks for this unbiased review. Its made me decide to stick to FL studio since changing just for the sake of saving a few mouse clicks doesnt seem like a good idea, especially for someone already accustomed to FL. Get really fed up of people spreading bs like one is superior to the other when the differences are so mimutely small. Apart from the price of course
Late to the party as usual but😊 Been hardcore FL for almost 2yrs & loving it ‘BUT!’ Outboarding and live tracking has me seriously seeing Live as the Go2. Only thing is, id run Live till the wheels fall off before going update junkie cuz $$$ aint got it like that period
Just Imagine what will happen if Ableton will start a sell campaign like this ... For this month we offer 30% discount and free life updates for Ableton Live Suite if you prove that you own other DAW and want to switch to Ableton 😂🤣😂
Nice video!! Any daw is uniquein their way and the "daw wars" is stupid fr. As an fl user, im a big fan of ableton, and the new update overide some of the cons of the last update and add new good things!!
Since switching to ableton I heavily miss linked patterns/clips especially automation clips, left click right click, and the use of the scroll wheel but other than that I’ve enjoyed the switch. I’ll make another song in FL one day but for now I just use it to stem out songs I want to bootleg🤷♂️ Also,routing in FL is kinda fun with the arrows at the bottle of the mixer, I’m visual so I’ve also gravitated towards Reason too. Great video dude, imma binge the rest of your shit now lol