I’m afraid I’m still developing it but when available it will be in my store on my website. www.draco-jp.com/thedracostore Unfortunately only up to 42mm motors can be used.
Great video my friend, thats the most I've ever heard you speak! Your parts rock my dude, shouldnt be long before you get a siese and disist order from HPI, your putting them to shame!!!
Any chance of making front and rear skid plates (metal or plastic) they are getting harder to find, also a clear chassis protector with precut holes would be great
For sure thicker front shock Tower and then how about a one-piece support from front to back along with the two small ones that are already there front and back and then for sure another motor mount there is a couple Brands out there that I know of a couple motor mounts that fit excellent in the vorza
Thanks for the feedback. I have made prototypes of all these parts and I am testing now. Check out my other videos about these. Part 1 here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JdRc9sF2vdI.htmlsi=6fQukks9vu5C5i96 Part 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i_H4MZG2zIY.htmlsi=deNCuQbvyhzZRvw8 Part 3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pb_VSneCH_o.htmlsi=yIxBdLb75aI9gBvW
I have a Vorza S Truggy myself. I could tell right out of the box the springs aren't strong enough. This video was a lot of help. Much appreciated. Thank you for the help.
Thank you Michael!! I am so happy to hear the video helped you. I feel the springs are too short and soft from factory. Here in Japan there are many Kyosho parts available so I thought I would try them out. Turns out they are a great choice! What springs will you try?
Its good hear youre goin to your orginal supplier for the finsihed pieces. Also good news that youre having the front and rear lower center braces made. The new steel standoffs would be an awesome addition to what youre going to offer. Cant wait for some jumps!
Hey mate, love the video, good to see some jumps from the Truggy!! In regards to your design at the end of the video: you know my feelings on the M3, so far its doing the job and taking some very heavy loads with zero stress. Now, having said that, it looks to me that the new design is going to put all of the load on the new Steel standoffs instead of the screw going through the Standoffs and the shock tower. Its taking All of the load, off the M3? If thats the case, Outstanding, Absolutely beautiful! 👍👌 With the M3 and standard standoffs, I can safely bring my car down from a planes cruising altitude, with those, I'll be able to bring it down from Orbit. 😅
Would that work with the alza racing standard size tvp's? I have alza tvp's standard size with vorza cd. The problem is that with alza and 11t pinion truck is slow !
I believe the mounting locations on the Alza TVPs Are the same as the stock pre2017 TVPs. If that’s the case then the Draco CDS will fit perfectly. With the 52T spur you can use 11T-20T pinions comfortably. I would keep an eye on the motor temps though.
@@dracoprecision mine is the savage flux hp with blur esc which i ve changed for the same esc that comes today... I dont know of I still have that 52 spur ....
@@JimmyDaval-u4x Don’t worry I include a custom 52T gear in the Draco Centre Diff Set. You also get custom outdrives. Check out what is included here. And let me know if you have questions! www.draco-jp.com/centrediffset2024
@@dracoprecision i already chexk it out... looks awesome !.... i want it to go faster... would u post a bashing video of speed and jumping,, i think that would help u with sales..
My friend u should jump it high so pple can see the durability of your upgraded products... again 1 brace form tower to tower but better if there is like a rectangular shape like again losi tenacity db pro but insstead of goingfron gearbox to gearbox make yours be from tower to tower....
I considered one brace from tower to tower but the likelihood of it bending was quite high. The brace mounted to the same place on the towers. With two braces it increases adjustability. I am going to continue testing like this and see how the braces and gearboxes hold up. Thanks for the suggestions!
@@dracoprecision u right but then i would suggest thicher braces with thicker ends cause those plastic things will brake quickly... in regards of the one brace , I have one aluminum brace on my losi db pro and jumped it high with no bendings... take a look at the shape of it ypurself n then u will realize how u should make it... take a look at a db pro brace shape then u will understand what I meant... again thanks for providing upgrades to hpi fans !
Hi there friend!... Great products for sure but i have 2 suggestions for u : 1. Instead of 2 shocktower braces, u should do as losi tenacity pro that is 1(only 1 ) brace from tower to tower instead of gear box to gear box as losi... 2. If u do chasis braces front n rear , do also tohether with both chasis plates because if u do only chasis braces , the chasis plates and the gear box might break in big jumps do to the fact that the plates and gear boxes are plastic.. And ty for giving hpi fans upgrades that are sooo hard to find if any.... I HAVE MY VORZA FLUX(ORANGE GEN) WITH HB CVDS, EXOTEK ALUMIN PLATES FRONT N REAR, EXOTEK CHASIS BRACES BOTH FRONT N REAR, ALSO INTEGY CENTE DIFF HOLDERS, ALSO HB ALUMINUM 5MM FRONT N REAR SHOVKTOWERS, ALSO CHUB N CASTERS ALL ALUMINUM FRONT N REAR, ALSO FRONT REAR HB DOGBONES THAT GOES TO CENTER DIFF. BASICALLY BULLETPROOF AND I WAS LUCKY TO FIND ALL THESE UPGRADES FOR MY VORZA FLUX BUT NOW A DAYS SOOO HARD TO FIND IF ANY AVAILABLE....
The brace is from tower to tower. The brace mounts directly to the shock tower. I have aluminum front and rear braces that attach to the chassis also. Please check my website Draco-jp.com/vorzabraces
I would purchase one of everything for my future build!! Love it man! Definitely use 7075 for the angled front and rear chassis braces and towers. Not sure if 304 stainless is best choice for the horizontal braces- have you compared its tensile strength to other available materials? This may not matter since the rod ends are plastic which will take a lot of the impact forces. Is the upper shock mount screw m3 on this model? This will be a weak point on big jumps with 7075 towers. My only issue with your shock tower is all the shock mounting options- if I was to drill thru for a bigger m4 shock mount bolt, would i break into the other holes on your shock tower? Thanks
Great news! Yes all the parts will be made of Hard Anodized 7075 for this platform. I have checked the tensile strength of 304 it is quite similar to 4140 at 500-700MPa. The braces have a centre section of 8mm in diameter and tapering to 7mm in diameter, I feel they will be stronger enough, but I plan to test them and see if they bend. I will revisit material choice if there are issues. Thanks for the idea! For the M3 screws have you tried better materials like 10.9 grade screws or titanium screws? Yes, the hols if drilled to 4mm would break into the other holes.
@@dracoprecisionfor my bashing style, huge air and bad landings, no m3 screw holds up for me as a shock stand off bolt, no matter what the material. All the big aftermarket companies are making m4 (and m2c just released m5!!) shock standoffs for 1/8 scale truggies such as the sledge and Kraton 6s/ outcast etc. That is the only thing I hope you consider changing on your design. Integrate m4 shock stand-offs into your tower design 🙏 If not, I believe the m3 stand-offs will be the weakest link on the truck after all your mods are installed
@@RCboyzTV Thank you for the feedback. I will look into this I just hope it doesn`t mean a redesign of the shock cap. The other option would be using a one-piece standoff which eliminates the need for a screw.
I haven’t looked at my vorza truggy yet, it’s still in box. But I planned to upgrade the shock stand-offs no matter what if they were m3. I could be jumping the gun though. Maybe the stockers will hold up fine? I’m not sure. Either way, Thanks again for your effort towards improving the hobby for all of us!
You are welcome. Once you take it for a run I would be very interested in your thoughts on the platform or if there are any other things that need improving.
Hey mate, righto few things. Love everything you've got going on here, it looks functional but Aesthetic as well, you've done an outstanding job mate. I would make those brace attachment points separate, opens up more options for you to sell. I can Not wait for that Motor Mount in a Buggy Option man, I know we have spoken about it, and you will get to it when you can, but God damn that looks awesome!! As far as replacing the lower plastic front and rear bracing, I'm all for it, as it shares that part of the structure with the Buggy, Definitely make that up! But, I would love a centre brace that ties the front, rear shock towers with the centre diff (Buggy) I need all the help I can get! 😅 Great video, and as always outstanding Designs my friend.
Thanks man! I always enjoy talking with you. I fully support anyone getting to RC and thank you for all the support and kind words! The motor mount will currently work with the buggy as it is so no need for a Different design. the Centre braces do not work in the buggy that’s only for Truggy. Thanks for the input!
Wow this looks superb, I would order for the truggy and buggies I have! I would prefer separate brace attachments for a cleaner look and lower cost option. Alloy replacent braces for the stock plastic front and rear would be a nice option also, I do like the cable tidy on the stock rear brace though, maybe a cutout/loop in situ to cable tie wires to it if it's not possible to have a 3d printed plastic cable tidy attach to your new alloy brace? Would a newly designed front brace allow for a thicker front driveshaft?
wow everything is looking great! is the center diff top gonna be 6mm thick? or get reinforced with maybe a gusset since it takin impact and pressure from the shock towers. whats size screw are you using for center diff mount top as well since m5 m6? i do like the towers with option to have the center brace in case some one wants to update later or not run them.
The Centre top plate is 5mm thick. I will check how this holds up under testing. The screws are m3 screws which should be sufficient. Thanks for the feedback.
I own an Alza based, TVP converted Savage XL. It's running a HW 56xx sized can. The main issue I have is that the stock battery boxes break off. I've 3D printed a set and reinforced them with a steel plate on the bottom, but I usually get one hard run on the boxes before they crack. They don't break off thanks to the steel plate. For very hard bashers, the weak battery boxes are the achilles heel of the Savage XL Flux regardless of who makes the aftermarket TVP. Funny enough, I also own a Flux XL V2, and those OEM battery boxes hold up fantastic on hard bashing. It's because of the way they secured them to the TVP whic is the key. Flatland bashers will not have issues but the battery boxes/how they mount need to be very strong for hard bashers.
I personally have never had any issues with the battery boxes. I do some jumps but I would say I don’t bash hard. Do you do large jumps and run quite hard?
@dracoprecision Yes, I do. I use my Flux XL V2 more over my more expensive Alza build because the battey boxes on the V2 don't break. I prefer to run my Alza build because of the giant motor and center diff but I can't unless i build full steel battey boxes. I'm still looking for a less heavy solution.
I see. What about aluminum mounts? These mounts attach to the tvp and then the battery box. Unless the battery box itself breaks then you’d need a whole new assembly.
Hpi savge is a cool line if you could get parts in usa. They should of re-did the diffs the always gernaded. The trucks super fun dont do a ton of diff oil that makes the explode to when it expands. Locktight everything on diffs
Thank you for the comment. You can now actually get Savage Parts in the USA from Hobby Recreation Products. I recommended checking out their website. The machined bulletproof gears are the best HPI option and if shimmed correctly are very reliable. I don’t over fill my diffs but fill as much as I can and never had issues.
Hey mate, just wondering how those shock towers for the HPI Vorza S Buggy were coming along? Just bent my front one and I was wondering how far away the new ones were, I'd hate to buy HPI Genuine only to hear the new towers are out. Cheers my friend
@kylarstern Hey man unfortunately I won’t be releasing them for a few months. I could make you a set if you like but they are untested. Let me know what you’d like. If I do order them it will take a few weeks to manufacture. Also I have some spring options for you (I saw your Facebook post). The Kyosho springs front IFS001-7515 Kyosho springs rear IFS001-815
@@dracoprecision You Sir, are a Gentleman. Thank you for the spring options, that means a lot to me. I've been out of the game for 30 years, and I was a bit stuck with the suspension. As far as the Towers go, I don't mind being a test subject for you at all! How much would a set of front and rear set me back?
@@dracoprecision Really? That's not much at all!! That's only a couple of more dollars then I pay for HPI Genuine. The deciding factor is going to be the post, where will it be coming from? I'm in Australia, if you could possibly get a general idea on postage for me I would be very grateful. You would have more of an idea on your end as far as weights go. Thank you my friend, this means a lot
@@dracoprecision I am not sure at the moment. I have an old Super 5SC Flux that I have kept around that I have not run in probably 6+ years. I got it 7-8 years ago and only ran it a handful of times and burned the ESC up twice and then shelved it. Considering getting it running/moving again as I could not stand to just toss it out. I have not checked it to see what is needed to be replaced - outside of the ESC and/or motor that I know I would need to.
Definitely don’t throw it away. They are still worth a bit. If you need any help let me know. I have been messing around with mine for years, it’s a beast!
Hey man, from looking online and the instruction manual I do believe the Draco diffs will fit the pulse. I also think the Vorza diffs will fit. To confirm this I would need some measurements from you. The distance from bearing to bearing of the diff.
@@dracoprecision I would like to do an xl build I have my current one the width of the xl but normal savage length wise. I’ll definitely be looking around for deals to see if I can find anything
HPI 5c Super eagerly waiting. I got the new motor somewhat rigged on, but I’m 99% sure it won’t be lasting for very long. This center diff would definitely help me build it for even more power
@@dracoprecision lol yes both gears are hardened, but one appears to be harder than the other 😆. I can get it to barely work by only bolting down the motor with 2 screws. If I use all four, it noses the pinion into the spur hard, and reduces the pinion to a round gear
