By the way,Abby should have gotten infected ,Ellie uses that switchblade in multiple infected,and at least 1 in the left behind dlc,so when the two fight in the theatre,Abby should have gotten infected and turned into a runner. Having her not be infected whilst in Santa Barbara is bullshit,and is just making Abby sit in her favourite characters chair.
almost every single one of your opinions is exactly how i felt, and it’s the first time i actually heard someone call it like it is in one of these TLOU 2 reviews
not to mention that druckman is a massive narcisist,i cant believe how many people ignore the fact that he called himself a "misunderstood genius" in that card collection ellie has,no wonder the story is so bad if the writer himself thinks like this of himself
Well that's the problem: People don't know that aspect of Neil Druckmann. He's literally said in interviews that revenge plots don't work in the setting of The Last of Us, and people *genuinely* cannot mentally comprehend the author himself admitting the story makes no sense. I'm serious, try it, next time you see someone say "Oh, it's so profound and smart" point that out and they *can not acknowledge it.*
I cannot understand anybody who says this is a good game. Who cares about the beauty of the world, graphics and gameplay when the story is terrible! TLOU2 is some of the dumbest writing you'll ever see. It's all derived from a stupid and forgettable NPC doctor whereby the game tries desperately to make you care for him and Abby but completely fails to do so. In the first game you kill endless people on your and Ellies fight for survival, we didn't care about any of them one bit nor should we as its a horrid kill or be killed apocalypse world - but now we're all of a sudden supposed to give a shit about this NPC doctor getting killed at the expense of Joel saving Ellies life??...which by the way Joel 100% did the right thing, even if he did bad things he did them for the right reasons. If you're willing to sacrifice your daughter on the CHANCE that maybe they can find a cure for the zombie infection then you shouldn't legally be allowed to have children, it would be sacrificing your child to a cult in the name of 'hope' which is just laughable. What's also terrible writing is when Ellie gives Joel an emotional beat down for 'not giving her the choice' he just stands there and takes it instead of saying "I didn't give you the choice but THEY didn't give you the choice" as they just took her and drugged her. On Ellies revenge mission to hunt down Abby the way the fight between them played out is absolutely comical as Ellie could've just shot her in the head when she was tied to a post. The first game was a beautiful masterpiece, the second game was the height of awful writing, unlikable characters, frustration and stupidity.
Maybe you all don't like it because you don't understand or maybe because you seen it out of context as for no one wanting it I wanted it so your wrong with all due respect have a good day ya'll 😊
Difference between Negan and Abby is Negan is charismatic and a fuckin joy to watch, and honestly I forgave him for Glenn/Abe in S9, tho I get Abby killing Joel ,she is still a pretty shitty person while her "redemption" and her surviving was shit and didn't make sense Rick sparing Negan did because of Carl and the fact that Negan saved multiple characters later who would've died had he not been there, Negans redemption is long and hard for him but he comes out better, many people in twd and real life can't forgive him I get that but they can't deny the good he did or why he was the way he was, Abby's "redemption" is the worst I've seen, it had potential but was rushed Joel could've died but should have later, Abby should have been a villain full on, maybe even surviving and redeeming herself somehow later on I don't care but it was executed poorly, 1 good thing was Tommy got some time to shine and quickly became my favourite character in tlou even though he wasn't playable until technically tlou 2 remaster, he was probably the best part of tlou 2 and felt like the same character nice but cold and badass when needed, while Joel showed the same traits he was butcherd ,ellie was no longer a fun person and the light of tlou Tommy actually was the best until the writing at the end screwed him. still if I had to chose the next playable character in tlou part 3 it would be Tommy maybe have some flashbacks of him and joel in the early days.
They could’ve made the message hit if they had let us kill Abby and get the same ending at the end where Ellie ends up alone. The cost of vengeance and whether or not it was worth it.
john walker did nothing wrong he was sent to neutralize terrorists and that's what he did even if he did so in anger seconds after his partner got murdered but show portrays him as evil cuz white man bad terrorists killing civillians and falcon (the token black mouthpiece) says "stop calling them terrorists" damn i believe that someone employed by army and taking side of the enemy is a traitor so way to go sam you are a bigger criminal than steve rogers was when he didn't sign sokovia accords
I think this game should of been about the drama and tension between Joel and ellie about the first games ending with sequences of patrol around jackson meanwhile Abby is going to jackson with her crew, and we learn more about her and her people with the game ending with Abby killing Joel, and the Third game about Ellie trying to forge her path forward without leaving behind a Vaccine and doing it without her father figure. Sounds way more enjoyable.
The entire game, the characters as well as the writers, seem to think that the only person in the entire world that could find a cure was Abby's dad. That's it. There was no other way. Abby's dad, in the hospital, killing Ellie. The fact that she's still immune doesn't count. Hope was killed at the same time as Abby's dad. Now Ellie is no more than another girl. The person with magic powers was Abby's dad.
I disagree about the Abby's dad part. I was really conflicted about killing the doctor, and making him the focal point and the player a chance at redemption i thought was powerful. I agree about the minority characters lol didnt even think about it but ironic for sure. We just do disagree about rhe Abby angle. I was definitly more team Abby by the end, idk why everyone is so obsessed with Joel to the point of not being able to embrace the complexities of differing perspectives even when the game spells them out pretty well.
@@full-timeanimeman4341 i get that, although I think it works in making you angry at Abby and wanting revenge and then when the game pulls the switch on you, really throws you for a loop once u work more into her perspective. I know I wanted nothing more than to annihilate her, and then when I realized who her dad was my mouth dropped, since I was ALWAYS conflicted about Joel killing the doctor and the main fireflies.
In defense of TFAWS for John walker killing the terrorist. Here’s how I see it’s a bad thing like they present it as. It’s not that he killed a terrorist that makes him look bad, it’s the fact he did it in front of a large group of people. Steve rogers probably never would’ve killed a terrorist in front of a crowd of people
Wrong ! Steve Roger’s would have done it if it was “necessary”…There was no way for Walker to restrain him and let’s not forget that he tried to murder Walker just a minute earlier by throwing something at him which Walker blocked…
This game shits all over the characters they created and we fell in love with. Joel dies a horrible painful death, and Ellie descends into madness and succumbs to her greatest fear which is being alone. It's like naughty dog wanted to punish us for liking these characters.
@@full-timeanimeman4341 “ they should’ve done this” “why did they do this to this character” if anything naughty dog and doing exactly what they want. Just because you don’t like what happens to Joel or Jesse or Abby doesn’t make it a bad story. It’s one of the best in gaming ever
@@rickyflickyn408 They didn't do what they want. Neil Druckmann wanted an entire game to be about Abby all on her own, but his life experience showed him *nobody* wants anything he made. So instead he made this entire story to destroy the first game's content to make way for Abby, who's just a rework of how he originally envisioned Joel. TLOU2 only exists because Neil Druckmann's a bad writer who couldn't handle people telling him his revenge quest story was stupid.
You were going strong until the sjw bs. It's honestly pathetic seeing "minorities" (as you call them) bashing videogames for killing people of a certain race or sexuality ffs. The so called "minorities" are literally the MAJORITY of characters created in the last 10 years and you guys still find ways to complain because "muhh they killed too many black characters". If there is something I've learned is that it's never enough for you people.
good job bratha. you called it as what it is unlike others who r making hypothetical arguments for both jumping in the debate train and not catch negative buzz earned a sub👍
How can your message be violence is bad when you put your settings in an apocalypse where violence is the only way to save you? Also revenge across the country is so unrealistic especially in the first game Joel and Ellie had a hard time going across a state.
elie toke about a week to do the revenge and she saw how joel was tortured, abbe toke 4 years to do the revenge despite she didn't see the killing and obviously the dad was not tortured .. the game story is very messed up and show how we dealing with really troubled minds who uses graphics to spread syco ideas, i even can't play the game in front of my kids with all inappropriate content
Hello Tissan Young. My name is Isaiah and I have something important to say to you. God loves you and just like a parent on earth he wants to help you and keep you safe especially from the evil one. But I am not just speaking to you about this I am also talking to your fans about this. God loves you all and especially in the times we our living in we are in need of him more than ever. But the choice is ultimately yours have a nice day Shalom Shalom.
This was EXACTLY why I never finished Cyberpunk 2077! I nearly rage quit, which is something I haven't done in video games since I was a kid. I'm usually a pretty calm person, and if a part of a game gets hard, I can calmly quit or take a break and come back to the game. But with this game, I got so fed up with all of the glitches, that I just couldn't play anymore. I was so excited for this game prior to its release, like, SO excited. It was going to be my first time playing a AAA game on time (versus discovering a game years later or experiencing it far after its initial release). (Side note: technically KH3 was my first AAA game, and I am a KH fan, but I was in school at the time, and had to wait many months later to play). I even created my first Twitter account to keep up with CD Projekt RED (I am always so hesitant when it comes to creating a new social media account, which is weird considering my channel lol). I bought the Collector's Edition and was just so excited. Then release day came. I was so ready to play the game. Everything was going well, I was loving Night City...and then not even all that far into the story, the glitches became so unbearable to me that I quit. The glitches were so bad to the point where I could not even complete missions to advance in the main story. Even when I would restart the system (and one time, I even restarted the entire game), the issues still continued. At that point, I couldn't do it anymore. I have not touched the game since then. I'm sure it's fine now years later....but I was so far turned off that I do not think I'll ever revisit it.
I remember the last person I told that I didn't like this game, dude started throwing a temper tantrum and whining about how I just didn't like Abby, the graphics, story, and combat were the best ever made. Yet couldn't tell me why the story was good.
If your game is going to be so heavily narrative driven... then the characters' actions and motivations must make sense. It makes zero sense that thw two main characters would kill 1000 people between the two of them just to take turns sparing each others lives.
It all suits the narrative and what needed to happen for the story they wanted to tell. The price of love, the pain of grief and the cost of revenge. hopefully people appreciate it more now with the re-release. And it's very 'real' ....these, 'lovable' characters can be ripped away at any second unceremoniously... And as someone who's partner was ripped away from them at 33 years of age a little over a year ago, weeks before my big 30th - something I was supposed to celebrate and remember as a milestone with my love by my side..someone who grounded me and I to this day depend on by putting him in everything I do in life - all for him...I relate - Ellies character arc makes perfect sense to me - her behaviour and rage and ruthless nature to make the ones responsible make perfect sense to me, if I could kill the all my partner would not come back - I would feel no better... Currently it would just feel like justice but I know that would dissappear very quickly. This is the only part of this character I can't relate to because I couldn't let Abbie go at the end. I relate to every other part of this character though -I think this characters arc is made for people like me to relate to. Be thankful you don't 😔 most of us will live a long life. Unfortunately not all do - loveable amazing characters like loveable amazing people suddenly being in your life one minute and gone the next is painful to the player as it is horrifying to someone actually living it because we loved them - we don't want to see them gone - we hate it, we want the people responsible to pay, we want them to feel how we feel... To be honest from my perspective - it's a masterpiece in storytelling on the themes I stated at the start of my Comment - something a lot of (stereotypically and statistically young but not exclusively by any means of course) gamers won't relate to for a long time so can't appreciate as is. And the narrative of some of these themes many will never have to go through...someoene they love dearly passing way before their time, suddenly and tragically, no goodbye - sometimes with the last time you saw them not leaving it on the best of terms with them either - I've never played anything that more perfectly suits my life at the minute and how I feel - nor do I have a pair of protagonists I can relate to more! I'm in a massive minority but it's accurate to me at least - so accurate.
Till today, I still pretend this A hole game never existed. Replaying the 1st game so many times instead. Neil is fockin dumb for not giving several endings based on which OPTIONs (Kill or Forgive Abby) at the end. He was too busy blind simping for Anita.
Honestly why did they never have Abby try to understand Ellies emotion........If she didn't know who Ellie was then she could have just beat a girls father to death in front of her....i would think that if shes begging me not to kill her...The whole no one understanding Ellies pain when Abby lost her shit is weird to me.
So, you ever read a fanfiction where there's tons of missing information that's clearly there as a result of the author never conveying things in the story but thinking the audience will just "get" their headspace? That's what happened. Neil Druckmann had this headcanon version of Abby where she's the coolest, smartest, bestest, most moral person in the whole wide world and Ellie was evil and unjustified and deserves to die alone. From scene one you were supposed to see Abby and cheer, and cheer for her the entire game and boo Ellie. Kinda like Paul Anderson's treatment of his wife in the Resident Evil movies. Naturally there's a disconnect if you have no inherent investment in Abby's character to gloss over issues like that.
Because sometimes when someone you love dearly is ripped away from you. You would be willing to take every last thing away from them. Grief fucks your entire being up it really does
I love the last of us two but you're totally right. I love the video it's really good. I think it's because I lived in Seattle for a while and there's a little apartment place that you can actually go into. I think they turned it into a pet store but it's on 6th avenue in downtown.
