😢 Hello, when I came 3rd in the Turkish Cadet Championship in 1988, the Turkish Sailing Federation said there was no funding and did not send us to this championship, I watched it now, my regards to all Cadet racers.
Wat enig dit gebeuren denk hier nog vaak aan met ons 3en op groot avontuur in Burningham on o.l.v.karst Hut. alias Harst Kut zoals jullie hem noemde lfs aan de hele familie klein nieuws Bea is back in Nederland xxx
The Americas Cup has always been a boat design race. America had simple been better at racing boat design than anybody else. Then the Kiwis came along, then the big boat. The American response was to build, once again, a better boat. The Kiwis bluffed with an inferior hand😂
The Kiwis basically wanted to cheat their way to the cup. They designed and built a boat completely outside the rules and then tried to be upset when America responded with a boat also completely outside the rules. The Kiwis just picked the wrong design 😢
Every time I watch that I remember why I don’t think much of Mr. Connors. The simple fact is the AC is brutal and a winning teams must take every advantage they can, but that doesn’t bring out the best in a lot of people.
Enormous surge of nostalgia watching this! Just showed to my kids to explain to them what the cadet class sailing was like. I’ve done many races in these conditions back home in northern Spain in the late 80’s early 90’s. Thanks for posting!
I grew up sailing, racing lighting class boats in regattas in the Midwest. and we had a Hobie 14,16. venture 15 sunfish and a few others over the years. Dad would always take a boat to the beach every summer, sometimes sell it wile he was there. We watched all this stuff on tv growing up! People don't realize how exciting sailing can be,even on a small boat!
If anyone wants to read the court ruling its very interesting on the deed of gift. NZ won part of the ruling but lost overall when the court said the U.S could basically race any boat it selected (provided it conformed to the deed) Basically the court said NZ you already built your boat, U.S you can build yours, go race.
As a long term San Diegian, and the fact that I was in San Diego during the race I think the race was as fair as the challenge. If Fay had waited for the next scheduled cup race and they had agreed on the boat design ahead of time it would have been a fair race.
Fay was just as much a A hole as Conner was at the time. Which is why it ended up in court. Fay wanted to try and catch everyone off guard and had already built his boat. He wanted to gain an advantage, so Conner was not entirely at fault with this mess. Court basically told everyone build a boat and go race. Hence the Cat v. Big Boat.
What a treat. Thank you so much for posting this. I was 7 when this all happened, and I remember it clearly. Shortly after, I began learning how to sail.
Wow this brings back so many memories from Aus! We were there in 87 prior to the Welsh worlds, me as crew. This is exactly how I remember Burnham, rampies, weather and that tide!! Great memories.
Dennis Conner was always a sore loser, back in 83 he bitched about the Aussies hiding their winged keel design, calling it cheating and was even involved in trying to get the Australian keel designer to sign a paper saying he didn't design the keel but that it was a Dutch design which would therefore make the boat illegal. Then the SOB has the nerve to go and Race a Cat against a Mono thinking its not cheating. Dennis Conner doesn't know what Sportsmanship is and it explains a lot about why he had so much trouble securing sponsors and funding for his boats after 87. I myself and a lot of other Americans were ashamed of him.
Lawyer takes years to design and build the largest, most expensive boat possible with a crew 40 then turns around and insists he be raced in 10 months. He did everything humanly possible to create the largest mismatch possible. Dude deserved a beat down, and that's what he got. I can beat most people in a race if I get to start out at a dead sprint while they are in the blocks. "He who seeks equity must do equity." "Equity does not relieve a person of the consequences of his or her own carelessness." "Equity regards substance rather than form." "Equity abhors a forfeiture."
Fay wanted to shake things up by telling the defender when to race and that it would build a much bigger boat. San Diego’s response with the cat was reasonable in my opinion. The problem with Fay was that he had already committed to his big expensive toy.
Fay wanted to pull a fast one. He had already built his big boat before he submitted the challenge. He was trying to gain an advantage. Court was actually right, told them go built a boat and race. Problem was Fay already submitted his boat. He didn't have the time to change.
First time I hear of all this. Can't disagree more with the new zealand case. Michael Fay should have thought more of sportmanship when he refused to challange the americans on the 12 meter class like everyone else. Btw this is the greatest NO YOU ever from San Diego.
A classic example of how stupidity and bad or non existent negotiating skills led to huge amounts of time, money and effort being flushed down the toilet. Fay got what he deserved in the end, he got his ass kicked.
Thanks for posting that. I can see it both ways. The Kiwi's challenged the Americans, gave them only 10 months to respond, and then set forth and built the fastest boat they could within what they felt were the constraints of the race. Obviously this would put the Americans on the back foot. So they did the same thing. Built the fastest boat they could within what they felt were the constraints of the race. And like the line in the documentary said. The challenger doesn't get to dictate the size and type of boat for the race. The defending champions do.
