Britt Rosso's speech at the beginning is quite telling and needs to be heeded, discussed, and talked about, however, we are told the opposite by the Kool-Aid Drinkers and Party Liners holding onto the hero worship and the alleged "factual" SAIT-SAIR investigation Report. The SAIT-SAIR "conclusion" basically stated that the GMHS did everything right. So then, if they did everything right, how is possible that these 19 men died in one fell swoop? The truth of the matter is that the GMHS Supt. serving as DIVS A was sternly threatening the Acting GMHS Supt. Steed to all leave the safe black and to come down off the hill. And, unfortunately, the alleged lookout McDonough continues to lie about all of it. McDounough heard it all on the GMHS Crew Net radio channel. The entire YH Fire and GMHS tragedy is the biggest cover-up, lie, and whitewash in wildland fire history. Visit of YHFR website.
Really? Never leave the black? How then do you expect to get any effective suppression work done if you're cowering in the black while the fire progresses?
It's NOT global warming. It's because fires have been put out for 100 years and there's 100 years of fuel built up. These areas used to burn every 20 t0 30 years and the fires were much smaller with less fuel. This vegetation is meant to burn, it's part of the lifecycle. Much of it needs fire to reproduce. People are moving into these areas without removing weeds or brush from around the house. In these dangerous area with 50 mph winds, evacuate and LET IT BURN.
sad and tragic but I think following investigations with mandates to avoid placing blame were basically theatre to say they did something because the reality was it was human decisions that caused this. No one wants to do the tough job of pointing out the obvious , who decided to go into that box canyon. Even here we have radio Tx by "unknown hotshot", theres no clarity in the earlier comms whether they were in the black and the location when they say they saw the guy earlier on a atv . I don't understand whether they gave that guy accurate informatioin or not and if not that should have been made clear. Its also confusing to undertand that Div Alfa was in fact Granite Mountain superintendant Eric Marsh. From what I have gathered GM had recently been treated as heros for their work at another fire which garnered a lot of attention and respect. That there was not a half hour gap in the radio transmissions but that there was a disagreement regarding tactics with Marsh ordering them to rally at the ranch to save the town of Yarnell, but Jesse Steed knew the route would go against training however, being a marine, followed his superiors orders. Marsh may have already been at the ranch and was to meet with them. Obviously this would place some responsibilty on men who died tragically and theres no one who wants to critique heros post homously, and decisions made at the beginning to not use air assets in the first place were critical to this story.
I'm just glad that reporter could clear up so much by pointing out that firefighters, are indeed, human. For the longest time, we all thought they were just moving Statue 🗽🗿 statues....
I was caught in a fire in 1987 The Lost Fire, Old Station, California in The Lassen National Park I have never been able to find footage or dialouge about that event Please do that story I ve never been interviewed
Paul. the 1987 Lost Fire on the Lassen NF was when your DIVS lit off the unburned fuel with a Terra Torch in the drainage in the middle of the day resulting in very aggressive fire behavior. You guys were getting cut off and sought advice from the DIVS about what to do and where to go and got no help from your DIVS. He later got back to you claiming he had radio trouble or something. I know you guys were really pissed off. The IMT reassigned him as the Rehab Specialist. The DIVS would later make similar decisions on the June 1990 Dude Fire that resulted in six fatalities. Thank you for bringing up this completely forgotten and ignored wildland fire near-miss. Until now, they buried it!
one person is always designated as a lookout. they are to keep eyes on the fire line and report anything they see. lookout failed to report a change in fire behavor. in the video he said "I see the smoke turn from white to black, meaning the fire was buring more"... he did not report this. I feel had they known that the fire was buring more they would have never left the black... any change in fire behavior is very important regardless the type of fire you're engaging.
love to the families of these men. I honor the crew every year by leading a hike to the memorial site. it is a heartbreaking yet poignant experience each year.
@@saucejohnson9862 Yes there is. It is seven miles round trip. I do it in late fall, early winter. The hike down to the fatality site is a short but very steep segment.
I really don’t know why these 19 man died that day, back in 1980 I was on a fire as our crew were force to Deploy as fire roar over us like a train sound, I could hear Other crying and yelling, we managed to survive, so why did these 19 firefighter had to died that day just doesn’t make sense. Prayer for the families that lost there Spouse, Friend, Father, Brother, Uncle,
Why in God's name did they move from the safe area to a low lying area that allowed the fire to roll over them? Why? Lost 19 lives that day dying by fire..one of the worst ways to die Blessings to the 19 and Charles Morton who also died by being trapped and burned over. Tragic...so tragic...Tx fan
If you live in Arizona and can hike the Hotshots Memorial Trail, I highly recommend you do so. I lead a group on the hike at least once a year. Once you're up in what was the black at the time, you can easily see their escape route and safety zone (the ranch). It is a very quick and short walk, but was no match for the flaming front. Standing there, you can imagine Eric saw the fire overtaking the town and couldn't stand by while that happened. It is assumed he calculated that he and the crew could make it down safely and in time to help protect the structures. Unfortunately...they did not.
@@ShannonLH1108 Thank you very much. I cannot take advantage of doing the hotshots trail. I am type 1 diabetic and due to my rheumatoid arthritis I could not do the walking. My heart grieved for the Hotshots and the tragic events that killed them. I also followed Charles Morton as well. Thank you so much. Gloria
