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His ears back literally means he’s listening to you, plus he was going crazy fast, and his mouth being open was because they were both trying so hard. Don’t comment about something you know nothing about.

Dont answer to something you obvious dont know about. He already killed this horse, its half dead. Im so sorry for the horse.@@just_a_horse_life

@@just_a_horse_life . His noticing the horse behavior was spot on. An open mouth when pulling is escaping the bit. The old timers, who were real horseman, will tell you that was an immediate zero back in the day. This horse has been pulled on too much. I think the lack of knowledge lies with you.

@@BBslider001 nope not particularly, the mouth being open is different from mouth gagging with comes from pulling too hard the bits reiners use are heftier than most bits, this why they hold their mouths open

@@BBslider001 some of the stops, yes did have mouth gagging but otherwise it’s just the bit

its not, they do that naturally. A low headset makes it easier to balance during the spins, slides and rollbacks

Oh and those ridiculous spins are natural? @@casdragon_5939

it is, this is torturing horses, you morrons@@casdragon_5939

Lol

lmao they do that naturally

Exactly my thought showed and bred for decades as in 55. . Western pleasure is worse, they are so slow and low, their noses almost dragging the ground. They don’t run around their pastures like that. Well the ones I have - and have seen of others, don’t - they run around with heads up, snorting and blowing. Beautiful horse. He is pretty hard on the mouth😅, he shouldn’t be gaping like that in stops etc. . Too much curb or too tight a chain?? I just wish the fashion would change away from the bbq low and slow just a bit. But he certainly is doing his job though I can’t say he looks happy. I’m use to horses looking through the bridle with their ears perked and flicking back and listening to you. One of mine use to do a low nicker every so often when we came in to the lineup - like he was saying “we did a good job didn’t we”, or “you’re still there aren’t you”. I always wondered what he was thinking. I would just pet him which I did anyway and most folks do to let them know they did a good job. Horses, like dogs, really want to please people. Ours would follow you all over the pasture just to see what you were up too. One would carry the tool bag around, it was so funny.

Imagine what these horses have to go through in training, so some idiot can run it around a show pen and slam it to a stop. @@plips71755

@@plips71755 western pleasure and reining are two different things. StarJac is a reining horse.

@@JR-hu6nu da gehörst du hin und ich mit Sicherheit nicht. Deine Aussage sagt mir das du auch nicht ganz helle in deiner Birne bist das ist ja wohl eindeutig. Zuviel Impfstoff Indus oder wie???

This horse is not even close to low headed 😂

if you would stop pulling on the horse it will drop its head when it mentally relaxes this happens with all breeds of horses if people would understand how to mentally relax a horses mind and let the reins go they would stop saying this lol the same thing happens when doing ground work!!!! the head goes down when mentally relaxed goes up when not your welcome :)

@@smartchicscyclone no, this poor horse is an example for learned helplessness, and not for relaxation. It's stuck, externally and internally. The walk is completely damaged, the hindlegs are blocked. The forehand is in the ground, the back in unnaturally rounded by spurs. In a few years this horse cannot be ridden anymore. Terrible riding, finally horse abuse.

@@smartchicscyclone Not that far down! This is someone's sick idea of a new style. Western pleasure horses are put through God only knows what to perform with this abnormally low head.

@@1sacoyle they will put there nose in the dirt if you don't pick them up you should buy a reining horse not trained and ride it without a bit it will drop its head and so will any other bread ride without reins then tell everyone I have done this so that's my experience

LOL cuz what you described is the only reason a horse rubs his face on his knee...

Do you have videos of horse doing this in other events or out in the pasture?

Not counting flies

But you right repetitive motion injuries don't occur and most horse aren't on maintenance programs

@@jessicaearp351 yes in fact I do

there's nothing natural about carrying their head so low....It's just a different discipline

@@theterracebanquethall7124 Firstoff, I am going to be the first person to call out abuse on horses...though this mare has a natural headset in this run, her topline is pretty level maybe even a bit up and her nose is a bit forward of the vertical...she walks in with it real low, but it does not stay that way. If you want to see horses with really unnatural headsets look at Andrea Fappani, those horses are galloping with their head so low and nose behind the vertical, it is a wonder they can even see where they are going....they are bred these days to have a low natural headset, not all of them but many...though that does not excuse horses like AF has them going. Anyway, I really like that this girl is going in a hackamore, I would venture a guess she is very sensitive and that white skin around her muzzle ( and the possible sunburn she may get) just make bits too worrisome for her.

Okay so first anyone who knows reining knows that Shawn Flarida is little so that weight comment is irrelevant 2nd that horse clearly tripped over his own hoof. If weight was an issue he wouldn’t have been able to catch himself and get up he would have just laid down! Don’t make comments like these when your not educated the reining horses bred today are much stronger at 3 years of age than mostly any horse out there they are bred to be strong and capable so keep those comments to yourself especially when speaking on the god father of reining who has made and excess of 6 million doing what he does!

@@jalenroberson8991 Firstoff, as I mentioned I mean no disrespect to S. Flarida, this is freedom of speech and I feel I am making points that are worthy of consideration. Shawn Flarida's record speaks for itself so no one is debating that. In terms of the weight comment it is my opinion and I will say this, if he were a woman, there would likely be no end to comments about weight. I feel my point about a 3 year old futurity is completely valid...even if the horses are physically ready mentally, it is pushing it!!!! It is like getting college degree by the time you are 10 or 12 years old. To have a 3 yr old in a curb bit with a metal chin strap is not a wholistic way of doing it. Just because you can does not mean you should. Lots of horses are on medications and it is a very demanding sport on joints, period. Reined cow horse, for instance, has a more wholistic approach in terms of how they bring those horses along, why can't the same be the case for reining horses - bosal --> snaffle --> bridle horse?

@@krist6074 it’s a public forum, for Christ-sake intended for public discourse, so whatever to that non-point…comments would be turned off otherwise. I like the sport and love the horses and stand by my point that a more graduated approach to competition would be more reflective of noble, for lack of better term, horsemanship. Other disciplines like dressage and reined cow horse do it that way. Of course, you don’t know what goes on in every program, but if I were a horse I sure would not want to be locked in a stall for most of the day but that is another topic, altogether.

@@krist6074 the person you commented to didn't say anything begrudging the reining horse industry or wishing that it wouldn't grow. He stated his opinion (and I concur) that it would be in Shawn's and his horse'a best interest to lose some weight. I used to show Quarter Horse Circuit. I used to be a chubby, fat girl I told I slimmed down. I have seen another obese man ride two different horses, and the horses could not properly handle his weight and struggled pitifully. I just watched Shawn win at the QH Congress Level 4 Reining Futurity.

@@jalenroberson8991finally facts

Probably due to music getting tagged as copyright

sliver spurs az owns titan and fappani isn’t riding him harsh titan is a very good horse but in this case he needed to run titan harder cuz of the show

@Melissa Oestreich I climbed on behind the ears of one of the neighbors halfbreed workhorse and got him to raise his head so I could wiggle down his neck when I was 4 years old. For the next 14 years I lived on a horse until I had to go to work in the real world. I did show and I won. A lot. That was a lifetime ago. I had my spine fused around 45 and that pretty well ended my riding. I stand by what I said - I would check my horse for a broken leg after an episode like that. And yes only a small signal is needed. I don't care what a guys name is, or a woman, some people simply are not that good. I have seen some impressive things from Tracy Westfall and some French guy from night of the horse. And the Boise Nez Perce tribe that rides bareback without bridles. There are some impressive trainers. A girl riding a blind horse with a rope around its neck at the withers. She could make her horse do a flying lead change without a noticable movement. She could also have it jump a low bar. You are watching the wrong trainers to be a good trainer. Names mean nothing, results mean everything.

dude do you even ride horses? if u knew the struggle maybe u would understand and if u do ride horses u probably don’t do reining so stop attacking a professional who has won millions of dollars.

@@kortneystaiger3589 dude, You can't read?

@@justme-dm7sb trust me i can read just because you think you are some hotshot in the equestrian world doesn’t mean you hate on other people who have one millions of dollars and if you actually knew who andrea fapanni is and the extraordinary things he can do maybe you would understand but you don’t because you are some selfish person who comments on others peoples riding and tries to brag about your past.

@@kortneystaiger3589 You need to watch Bridleless Freestyle - Cedar Potts-Warner. There is a great rider / trainer. Better than any of your high dollar whogivesarip knucklehesd with a "name". The name means nothing and neither does the money if the rider can't ride. Its all about the horse being the partner. Not what any idiot can MAKE it do with the right kind of abuse. Check it out for yourself. Watch a truly "great" trainer ride.