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Both George and Leenders are smaller goalies, so they have league wide mandates against them. As an example, only 11 teams interviewed George at the combine. George was fortunate in the sense that one of those teams was willing to take him in the 2nd round. Leenders didn't get as lucky, but I do think they are in the same tier range, so i think Buffalo did well considering where they grabbed him.
@@bradallen108 Ok thanks for the reply. I was very surprised he went so late. His stock really dropped this year for whatever reason. His numbers and game looked good to me. I think Buffalo got a steal. Its too bad Toronto wasnt a little smarter. Lol
Slukynsky was a goalie I didn't get an opportunity to see in his draft year since I didn't sweep high-school hockey when looking for goalies last season. That said, he was very good in the USHL and due to his success I made sure to sweep high-school this past season. Looks like a legit prospect.
Bruins fan stumbling upon this after my team all of the sudden has their 1st rounder back. Would your ranking change much now that it is Boston making that pick rather than Ottawa?
@@jerome.berube I understand that it isn't a mock draft, but the "team list" as described around 0:10:30 led me to believe a different team in a given spot would adjust the ranking? idk lol I am unfamiliar with your channel/org, this was the first video I've watched. Won't be the last tho! Watching part 2 right now 😁
Incredible videos! Really appreciated the detailed breakdown on certain decision making and physical elements of each prospect's game. Keep up the amazing work gents!
This is my favorite pre-draft video I’ve come across this year. Nobody else scouts goalies, probably because you have to watch a lot more tape to get a feel for them, but this was phenomenal and very insightful.
Wonderful and insightful video guys. Loved the MBN stuff, think you guys hit it on the nose, he's been very underrated in terms of his potential. His shooting ability and effectiveness at interior scoring is going to translate to the NHL much better than some of the perimeter offense guys who put up more eye popping numbers in the CHL. Slightly disagree with Greentree tho. Absolutely a top 10 guy in terms of offensive skill. But I think you'd be hard pressed to name many prospects with the trio of skating. 2-way play, and compete level issues that ended up succeeding in the NHL. Feel like MBN and Chernyshov are just much better bets to become power forwards at the next level. Once again cheers on the video guys. Definitely gotta drop a sub
You will be proven very wrong on Catton. Seriously guys. Check his linemates out. Next highest scorer was Roulette at 108 pts. Roulette is an overager who's previous highest reg season pts was 68pts. Nothing changed but him being traded to Spokane and being blessed by lining up as Cattons winger. After that, next highest pt guy is another overager, Berthelot, with 71pts. Then you get a massive drop-off. No play driving D man. Spokane had no business making the playoffs. Berkly Catton often playing 30min/game literally carried that team into the post-season. And considering teams planned their entire defense around trying to stop him (often double-teaming him), he still managed to score 54 goals and get 116 points. Putting him into an elite class over the entire CHL historically. And one of the best WHL prospects in 20 years. And your rank of 6 for hockey sense is the icing on the cake. It's laughable. Really questions how much you actually watched of Catton. And he's barely better than Luchanko? Really? Give your heads a shake. Considering where you guys ranked Geekie over Slafkovsky, Nemec AND Cooley. Or ranking Honzek over Benson...I'm not shocked. High IQ and compete level/character coupled with elite skating and shot (which Catton has all of, despite your laughable 6 rating for hockey sense), go a lot further than "Moar Size". Which it appears you guys lean towards.
Thanks so much for your passionate post, even though you disagree with our assessment. I agree with you that Catton single handedly brought a poor Spokane team to the playoffs and looked fantastic at times doing so. A couple of counterpoints though. You stated we had Geekie over Slafkovsky, Nemec and Cooley. If you check our final rankings, that's not the case at all. We also never ranked Benson over Honzek. We had Benson 12th (due to injury risk only, we loved him), and we had Honzek 15th. So I think you are either mixing up some of our mid-term rankings with our final rankings or mixing us up with someone else. Admittedly, flat ratings are meant to be a very general breakdown of his sense, nothing more. We think his hockey sense is good, and in some areas you could argue exceptional (spatial awareness). Our issue is that when we took his passing rates into consideration it brought down that value a ton, though we do think they can correct over-time as he develops a more structured pro style of play. He's a smart hockey player, but he's not a naturally gifted center and doesn't stay above the puck or anticipate off puck play very well. His off the puck play we would argue, is far below his on puck intelligence when taken as a whole. Don't take it from us though, take it from him. He came out and said that he thinks of himself as a winger. The problem is that his playmaking rates along the walls and below the goal line are actually not very consistent, which again is one of the reasons we think he's over-valued. Obviously, we see this player differently but we do have a ton of viewings of him. We don't think he's an elite skater, we don't think his compete level is very good, especially game to game consistency, even when accounting for minutes played, and although he has a great shot, it's not in the top 3 to us. That said, we do think he will out produce and definitely score a lot more than Luchenko. It comes down to positional need. We think a 2nd-line, two-way center whose one of the smartest players in the draft belongs in the same tier range as a high end goal scoring rush winger. If we actually leaned towards "moar size" as you put it, we wouldn't have a smaller D in Zeev Buium at the top end of this class. Again, thanks for your post, hopefully that clears some of the issues you had with the ranking, even if you disagree with it.
Can’t wait until you boys talk about Celebrini! What are the chances Craig Button is right for once and his crosby/malkin to celebrini/smith comparison isn’t totally out to lunch?
There's definitely some Crosby in Celebrini in terms of how they can drive possession down-low, and they are similarly sized but Malkin gets over-used a lot as a comp for a lot of prospects by the media and that's definitely the case when comparing him to Smith but Smith is still an amazing prospect!
Very cool conversation. Thanks, a lot of interesting insights! "Deep draft", or not, I think this is going to be a VERY INTERESTING draft, with such a wild spread of rankings between the scouting groups. I'm a 'lifer' Canucks fan, and (I guess depending on ALL the potential variables that could sway things in the top 10 picks), I'd love to see Vancouver either sticking with 11 and taking Simashev, if available (?? kind of going off BPA to address 'need', but this video only adds to the extra hype I've been hearing about him in the past couple of months). OR, assuming there are still a couple of players available that I like, then even making the move down by 3~6 picks, and gaining/adding a 2nd Rnd pick (at least), while HOPEFULLY still getting a shot at one of the ?? Simashev / Willander / Barlow / Wood / Perrault / Dvorsky ?? group ... Fingers crossed! Cheers
I got the digital draft guide. Didn't really know what to expect. Great buy. Knowing that there's such an immense amount of detail I'll definitely get the black book next year for sure.
These are really good questions. I'm tired of the same old questions. So these are a major step up. Jarvis is also a thoughtful interviewee. This video deserves more views.
