@@tom_types do you know the difference people talk about when they use halo clear stems vs panda stems or panda tops vs cherry nylon tops? and you use zeal v2 bottoms right? thx thx
The halo clear and true stems are similar if not the same as I understand, but not used the halo stems…. Panda tops or Cherry nylon tops will change the sound a bit, and I’m not certain on the compatibility - yes the v2 Zealios
Hey! So these are Kailh switches, you can get the clips open with other household tools, buts its more difficult - I’d be surprised if your switch opener didn’t have the edges to open it, most do, they just look like the sides of the opener, but it’s actually for these types of switches
@@tom_types Thanks for the note! I've been fortunate in that I think mine haven't been scratchy, but there's definitely some spring ping on them that's made me want to lube the springs, and at that point maybe I just lube the rest of the switch while I'm at it.
Question, boba u4t are hard to type on? I am worried if would have finger fatigue I usually use gateron oil kings but I want that thocky sound, they don’t have boba’s u4t actuation force on the specs 😢
They are certainly feel heavier than most, but I think the Oil Kings are fairly heavy (80g bottom out), so if you bottom out the Oil Kings you’d be totally fine with the Bobas
They are in that middle range of pitch for tactile’s I’d say - its harder to get long pole tactiles to be low pitched though, other than the Boba U4Ts, that’s all I can think of
@@tom_types okay that sounds good. Thanks. I am thinking of ordering fake holy pandas from aliexpress. Any thoughts? And are they also considered deep sounding ish?
Some of the Holy Pandas are legit off AliExpress…. If it’s the Feker branded ones, Im not so sure. They certainly have a deep sound - what sort of plate material do you have in the board?
I went from a gaming headset to that setup and it’s fantastic, best I’ve ever used easily, but I know in the audiophile world it’s fairly basic - I’d recommend open back headsets though, I get base is worse, but the sound is just so much wider and more real
Just getting into the hobbies, and this video was awesome. Looking Forward to making these, would you have a link to which switches to buy? Also are these version of the frankenstein possible in 2024? Im not sure if the production tooling changed.
Yo! They are my most used and probably favourite switch, so good choice! I don’t have any links as I made mine a long time ago, but any Black Ink or Oil King bottom housing… Any Milky Top (I used Gateron)… and a long pole stem from a linear (I’ve used NK Creams, Kailh Pro Burgundy, Tecsee Carrots and they all fit). Switches I haven’t specifically mentioned would need more research to see if they’d fit
Yes lining them is extremely worth it, They’re not that great of a switch to begin with honestly 😅 (in today’s standards I mean,) the unlubed sound is just straight out cheap, not even a worth “clacky” switch!
i have a suggestion for you. what about making a switch "database" of sorts that ranks switches on different things, like switch feel, tactility and smoothness. Also including frankenswitches.
People always mention the sound in these comparisons. The biggest difference (at least for me) is the much improved typing feel, just so much smoother and responsive. That's why I always lube my switches, the improved sound is just a nice bonus. Edit: I only use tactiles and I only lube the rails and the springs. That's enough to get the improved feel that I want.
Is there a sound test? I would like to use my BCPs, Creamsicles or my Creampacas for that spray can sound as they are all long stem options. What foam configuration did you do on the fr4
Some sellers name them a bit differently, the Silvers are sometimes optical switches that you certainly don’t want… the Speed Silvers are also called Pro Silvers or G Pro Silvers… if that helps
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14FIOuGlffntJmXKJSGYJnPoeGvy8BPueM4NWdnHN7fE/edit#gid=0 I have the data, it just took me this long to move it across a spreadsheet so I don't share my secrets
Just take one, lube it, take another one, lube it a little more, and compare both to stock. LOL I just did that for my BSUN Roselles and there was NO difference whatsoever. Slow pressing, half pressing, pressing down with side load, normal typing, fast typing.... the factory lube job was indiscernible and sufficient. So unless the stocks are actually bone dry bare plastic on all surfaces... don't bother! ;)
@@tom_types i actually got some just now, and they feel really smooth and surprisingly well built for the price, thought you'd like them! (though they are quite deep sounding)
@@tom_types Thanks for telling that info. I bounght 90pcs halo true and realized this problem. So maybe I'll find some yok trash panda to make holy panda switches. Is holy panda housing looser than boba housing?
