1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 in the Book of Revelation I am going to show exactly where this passage is in the Book of Revelation. First it is necessary to study Rev 4:3. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. Before we examine this verse I want to look at EZ 1:27-28 - 27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. No one has ever doubted that God the Father is described in these verses. When John is called up to the throne room in Revelation Chapter 4, the voice that calls him is that of Jesus. Everyone agrees on that also. Doesn’t it strike you as odd that Jesus does not seem to be present in Chapter 4? Let’s look to the Bible to clear up this question Hebrews 1:1-4 says: In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. Does this help you to answer the question of where Jesus is in the throne room in chapter 4 of Revelation? It is interesting that the rainbow encircles the throne. Let’s look at John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” In Ezekiel the rainbow was not said to resemble an emerald. That vision occurred before God’s Son became man. The emerald is used as a descriptive phrase because Jesus is from the tribe of Judah, in fact Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Judah was the fourth son born to Jacob. In the KJV the emerald is the fourth stone in the breastpiece of the High Priest. That is not so in the NIV or the NASB. However, I’ve never asked a Rabbi or a member of a Jewish Historical Society who does not say that the emerald is the stone of Judah. Rev 4:3 is a magnificent description of the relationship between the Father and the Son. Now, we have laid the groundwork for studying Chapter 10 of Revelation. Chapter 10 is the beginning of the fulfillment of the three main rapture passages which are: 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. matt 24:30-31 50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” 1 Cor 15:50-54 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 Let’s look at Rev 10:1-4: 10 Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars. 2 He was holding a little scroll, which lay open in his hand. He planted his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, 3 and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke. 4 And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, “Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down.” Jesus is the rainbow, also the rainbow is the sign of the Son of Man mentioned in Matt 24:30. The angel - mighty angel - the archangel is Michael, the only archangel mentioned in the Bible. Michael is robed in a cloud, Jesus is above him. Jesus issues a loud command with the voice of the archangel. The roar of the Lion of the tribe of Judah. The appearance of the archangel is glorious, he is in the presence of the Son of God. Remember the face of Moses was radiant when he came down from the mountain after speaking to God. The seventh trumpet blows shortly thereafter and 1Cor 15-54 is fulfilled. We are actually raptured in our immortal bodies in Rev 14:14-16. This is when God the Father has Jesus send his angels to bring us up to him. Also, let’s look at Rev 10:7 7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.” Col 2:2 says: 2 My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, The mystery of God is Jesus. Hence, the mystery of God will be accomplished = Jesus will return.
This place is nothing but a CULT!!!! They hate people who stand up to them . Disrespectful and will knock an isle down in public to get AWAY FROM you if seen in public. Such a fune so called "Christian" example in which thwy are nothing but people who hate others and look down on others. Gonna be a VERY nice reunion in hell for everyone!!
Israel is there, because God wants it there. It is there, for the fulfillment of prophesy, and in preperation for the Lord Jesus return. Ezekiel said, God will bring Isael back, for the sake of His name. Not for their sake.
Does preterism teach that we got spiritual resurrection and reunion with God when the temple was destroyed in AD 70? Didn't our access to God start when the temple vail was torn in two? People were being born again long before AD 70. ??
The best series on Revelation is Dan Jenkins, Palm Beach Lakes church of Christ in Florida. The church has a RU-vid channel and the series is on their playlist.
I’m the late 90’s I spent a little time with the Boston Church of Christ. Those guys were a bit nuts and I think it was a cult (you can look them up if you like). But the teaching here seems ok :)
All of the things mentioned in Matthew chapters 23 and 24 all center around the destruction of that temple that stood in Jerusalem in the first century AD.
Certainly many good points made here, which I will fully consider. However, you made the analogy of one being authorized to use an instrument in their individual home, and then said that they couldn’t bring it into worship - “into the building.” That gives me pause to ask what’s so special about the building. I wouldn’t sing to the Lord in my home with any instrumental accompaniment any more than I would do it in the church building among the worship assembly. I’m confident that you wouldn’t either. But the thing that got my attention was your specific mention of the building. Maybe you didn’t intend it the way it sounded, but it made me wonder if you think we’re not authorized to do anything at all, other than worship, in the building. If so, then what is special about the building? Is there anything in scripture to indicate that we should assign only certain activities to the places where we happen to assemble? What if our assembly place is a private home? That’s the case with many fledgling congregations. And may I ask if you have a church building? Do we have an example of Christians in the New Testament collectively building a facility specifically in which to worship? And if so, what was the design of those buildings? God specified to Noah the way he should build the ark. He specified to Moses how the tabernacle should be set up. Did he do the same for early Christians regarding their church building? Did they only have one large room? Can we even know? If not, then couldn’t you use the same argument against building any worship facility at all that you used against building kitchens and fellowship halls, or having fellowship meals as a congregation? If we take the liberty to build a building, then where does it end? Didn’t you say that that which proves too much proves too little? These are real questions I have. Please know that I’m not trying to be contrary or argumentative here. These are just sincere questions I have. I am not one who would disparage our non-institutional brethren. I have heard your views misrepresented many times regarding support for orphans and widows, etc. To hear some brethren tell it, you have no sympathy for those in need. I know that you all feel a deep personal, individual responsibility to help those people - just not an authorization to do so collectively as the local church. Of course, it might be that I would agree with you on that point while disagreeing with you on kitchens and fellowship halls (at least for the moment, as I am still studying the issue). In any case, I commend your sincerity, and I appreciate your video.
Keeping in the same appreciation, I would like to respond to one/two of your inquiries. The building is nothing more than the established place in which the church (ekklesia- the called out) worship. Members of the body (the church) can meet in many locations; homes, parks, buidings, etc. The early church did actually meet in places to worship, one is the temple (Acts 2:46-47) ironically, the Bible makes it clear that the church would meet in the temple but they would break-bread (in this example, breaking bread is a meal) from house to house. I state that because it's important to recognize that when a church comes together to worship in spirit and truth, there are certain actions in place that have to be respected. On the first day of the week, a congregation should take of the lord's supper, as directed in the verses of (Acts 20: 7-8) however what is done away from the church is not the same. I can sing gospel music in my car and it have musical instruments, but I can't do so when in worship to the Lord, as a church. The Bible speaks of the church (collectively) not separate-and-apart. The reason that we are against the kitchen and fellowship halls, is in regards to us not being given any instruction/ bible example of the "church," doing so collectively. We are told that they went from house to house, this is the distinction, they didn't do this in the place of worship or as a collective. The verses clearly show that the actions in the temple and the actions of those who gathered to Have meals daily, were not done in the place of worship. 1 Cor 11:22 Hope this helps
God's plan for marriage apparently includes polygamy (Jacob and Rachel/Leah/Bilhah/Zilpah, etc) and incest (Lot and his daughters). So among Restoration Movement churches, the Mormons come out on top in the Biblical marriage model.
Either way... modern christianity is false. Here's why: Biblical redemption was ONLY from the curse of the old covenant law. That law was ONLY given to old Covenant Israel and has not existed for nearly two thousand years. No one alive today was ever under that law or its curse. The law was never your schoolmaster. You were not kept under the law. Did Christ redeem you from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3? Impossible.
If you delete or reject the messages sent from the messenger of Malachi 3:1 you reject Jesus and will automatically be blacked out until you either repent or wait too late and die with the wicked. Selling anything using the gospel is PURE EVIL! Malachi 2 PROVES Malachi 3:8-11 is prophetic instruction for the thieving fake ministers to return the money and God will end Covid. But all the fakes love money more than listening to God. Murderers! Mathew 19:12 🏳️🌈 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. 🏳️🌈 Eunuchs made that way by others were abused. 🏳️🌈 Those that choose to live like Eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex but opposite in gender. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6. Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be utterly destroyed from among the people. Anyone collecting money for ministering in any way is now blacked out from the Holy Spirit and will be until they either repent or wait too late and die. Same goes for anyone teaching same sex marriage is a sin when it is not. Male or female is determined by gender, located in the brain. I am the forerunner to the return of Jesus, who was transgender and will return as a woman. Most of the famous prophets from the Bible were transgender as well, including David and Joseph. STAY OUT OF THE FAKE CHURCHES IF YOU WANT TO LIVE. You choose to go there then you are supporting their evil and will also be held accountable... Everyone still has a gender when the kingdom of heaven touches down. ......
Although most people can say they're not scared of gays, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets violent in the future. They are becoming very aggressive and demanding. It just feels demonic than ever before. Satan is trying to get as many as possible in hell as he can. I believe it's part of the persecution of believers in Christ.
Yes. Number one it goes against God's creation. Two, it's unhealthy physically and mentally because God did not create us to be g or h. Parts don't go together LOL. There's medical evidence when it comes to m on m (s). That goes for heterosexuals that do it too.
Excellent exegesis of this passage. Thank you for handling this passage boldly and scripturally. This is the most consistent and honest handling of this text.
You make some good points on why we have no authority to offer it twice on the first day of the week. You said bad elders would have some taking here some taking there. How do you justify. Offering it again. When the church has already taken it that morning.
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