The very first and oldest existing gung fu school in America is the Hung Sing Kwoon 美國鴻勝館. Additionally, it is the first school of Choy Lee Fut est. on American soil (C. early 1920's) founded by Prof. Lau Bun, a grand student of Hung Sing Fut Gar Founder Cheung Hung Sing. The school is currently under the guidance of GM Dino Salvatera 周天龍, the 2nd inheritor of Hung Sing Kwoon USA. Sifu Frank "Jew, Hung Loong" McCarthy 周洪龍 is a senior disciple of GM Dino Salvatera. Sifu Frank has been training under GM Salvatera since the age of 14 years old. He is a 3rd/5th generation disciple of the USA/Fut San lineage and is the official historian of the Hung Sing USA lineage. In 2005, he opened his Hung Sing Kwoon 鴻勝洪龍館 in San Francisco and is one of a very few to teach Hung Sing Kuen as it was passed down by GM Salvatera. He has also been influential in the direction Choy Lee Fut was heading for future generations. Sifu Frank is amongst the first of CLF strictly return to combative roots
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 of cause Sifu Frank, you carry Hung Sing legacy and Buk sing is like a brother or cousin to you. But I prefer to call cousin lols. Even I am not train, in any choy Li Fut. Furthermore Sifu Frank you are showing the world that Kung Fu can fight.
@@jasonkurtrix357 Buk Sing are brothers to Hung Sing, because without Hung Sing, there would be NO Buk Sing at all. If i am succeeding at showing the world CLF is a good fighting system, and it sinks in, then i pray i am doing a good job and leaving that legacy behind when i leave this planet. thanks man
Sifu Frank if you consider Buk sing lineage is only 80 or 90 old Buk Sing can evolve more, also don't Tam Sam got kick from Hung Sing school, because he beat down all Hung Sing school student during that times. Tarm Sarm is only live for combat not sport right? Note: I am not in any Buk Sing school but I taking interest a lot in Buk Sing choy li fut.
there are a few stories to why tam sam left his CLF teacher. but him getting into a fight and hurting a CLF elder, he had to go. all clf in those days was for combat. not sports. buk sing is a good system.
Sifu, I got questions can sow choi works? Today I was having fun with class mate that do boxing. We were talking about martial arts and stuff. I told I want to learn Kung Fu. I show, him sow chui, he told me that I do too high, and I will get upper cut. What is like cause of action, should be lower? Note I am not train and being at any choy Li Fut school. I just video of sow choi.
Choy Lee Fut has everythng in its arsenal that boxing and muay thai has. everything. I know you have seen over hand strikes. in CLF those are Sow Choy's. One masters the sow choy he can chose various ranges to launch them. THE TRUTH IS FOUND IN THE WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, HOW AND WHY OF THE TECHNIQUE. WE NEVER use the sow choy as an opener. it MUST be following some other strike first. alone, the sow choy CAN be defended against. but yor boxer friend, i would tell him "think of an angle, and CLF has it. Think of a strike and CLF has it.".
@@jasonkurtrix357 we would all over to see that. But clf people only care about the safety of their friends and family from the harm of violent people. And one championship doesn't mean much unless your chasing titles, money and fame
E lamentável ver um documentário sobre o Choy Lee Fut dizer que ele foi fundado por Jeong Hung Sing... o Choy Lee Fut foi fundado pelo Grande mestre Chan Heung. SE Jeong Hung Sing existiu de verdade, foi apenas um aluno do mestre Chan Heung.... lamentável.
It's sad to see a documentary about Choy Lee Fut say that it was founded by Jeong Hung Sing... Choy Lee Fut was founded by Grandmaster Chan Heung. IF Jeong Hung Sing really existed, he was just a student of master Chan Heung.... regrettable.
Claramente no conoces tu historial CLF en absoluto.SE Jeung Hung Sing existisse." Cara, Jeung Hung Sing foi o professor mais famoso de todo Choy Lee Fut. Mais famoso que Chan Heung. Mas aqui vou te educar. Jeung Hung Sing tinha 12 anos (1836) quando estudou com Chan Heung. Choy Lee Fut não estava completo neste período. Jeung Hung Sing treinou com Chan Heung de 1836 a 1841. Novamente, choy lee fut estava longe de estar completo naquela época. . Jeung hung sing foi enviado para o monge Ching Cho, onde completou seu aprendizado do sistema Fut Gar Então me diga agora, se fut gar foi o ÚNICO estilo de kung fu que ele completou, qual foi o seu estilo principal que nunca foi concluído? muito novo, ou fut gar que ele completou? jeung hung sing retornou para chan heung e então ensinou-lhe o que aprendeu com monge ching cho. Ao compartilhar o que aprendeu com monge ching cho com chan heung, jeung hung sing se. uma espécie de cofundador do clf por suas contribuições ao choy lee fut por volta dos anos 1864-1867. Mais tarde, Chan Heung e Jeung Hang Sing desenvolveram seu Kung Fu separadamente. Então deixe-me dizer o que é triste. que você não sabe como fazer sua pesquisa corretamente e, em vez disso, ouve as mentiras que lhe contam.
@@universidadekungfu1469 You clearly don't know your CLF history at all. "IF Jeung Hung Sing existed". Man, Jeung Hung Sing was the most famous master of all Choy Lee Fut. More famous than Chan Heung. But here, I will educate you. Jeung Hung Sing was 12 (1836) when he studied under Chan Heung. Choy Lee Fut was not complete in this period. Jeung Hung Sing trained under Chan Heung from 1836 to 1841. again, choy lee fut was far from complete at that time. Jeung Hung Sing got kicked out for defending himself against chan heung students. Jeung hung sing was sent to the Monk Ching Cho, where he completed learning the Fut Gar system. so you tell me now, if fut gar was the ONLY style of kung fu he completed, what was his primary style? choy lee fut which he never completed because it was too new, or fut gar which he did complete? jeung hung sing went back to chan heung and later taught him what he learned from the monk ching cho. by sharing what he learned from the monk ching cho with chan heung, jeung hung sing became sort of a co-founder of clf for his contributions to choy lee fut around the years of 1864-1867. then chan heung and jeung hung sing separately developed their gung fu from one another. so let me tell you what is sad. that you people don't know how to do your research properly instead you listen to the lies that you are being told.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 Olá Sifu. Grato por apresentar a sua versão dos fatos. Respeito sua versão e respeito aquilo que vc acredita. Antes de mais nada, quero deixar claro aqui que não quero criar polêmicas e nem conflitos, mas apenas deixar claro o meu desgosto na afirmação que Jeung Hung Sing criou o CLF, e isso está nesse vídeo. Aqui no texto acima que você apresenta, vc diz que ele FOI ALUNO DE CHAN HEUNG.... Ok, isso está correto porque existem registros históricos sobre o Fato... e você também pode afirmar que ele finalizou o estilo (já ouvi também essa versão) embora eu não acredite nisso, as pessoas são livres para acreditarem e falarem o que quiserem. ... essa divisão política entre King Mui X Foshan é antiga... O que pedimos é o reconhecimento do Grande Mestre Chan Heung... Grande abraço.
Is the way "Heung" is pronounced representative of how you all pronounce it? I always heard it pronounced pretty differently. It was closer to "Heh ung" and if I really went for it, it would be something like "Heh(r)un(g)" with a soft r and g... To be clear, I'm not aiming to be insulting, nor am I interested in being "right"-- just more interested in how things change as language meets different dialects and accents over time, and how different groups may pronounce something like that differently
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 That's absolutely fair! Still, I now really want to hear if how you say it is similar to how we pronounced it! Is it safe to believe the AI is different than how you would say it? I'm a little curious about the advantages of using AI like that as well... I imagine you probably have a very neutral U.S. Midwest accent. It's funny how we can each perceive these things, because CLF nerds can be bonkers didactic about basically anything(guilty, but trying to grow as a person)! 😆 Even knowing how y'all say it, it's just a tiny piece. I am pretty certain that we could come up with how Cantonese speakers from King Mui said that Surname(and that might be different than the folks in Hong Kong and San Francisco said it.) Then again, what does it matter other than curiosity? I really appreciate and enjoy your videos! They remind me of who I was decades ago, and what I *love* about CLF and TCMA-- the comments sometimes remind me of what is embarrassing about it, and why I'm glad is in the past. I love to imagine what CLF would have looked like if Chan Heung had all the advantages that we have, instant communication world wide, post UFC, excellent padding and synthetic weapons for sparring!! I really believe quality research can help us clarify what may or not have been lost, misunderstood, or even forgotten-- I reckon if the time, money, and effort are found to do that work, you'd be pretty good at sharing those truths with your skill for content production and editing
@@TreyYork1 I've been doing Choy Lee Fut for over 40 years. I know how to say his name. LMAO. I have a hood accent because I grew Up in the hood and on the streets. I've also grown up in the Chinese Community. So, i know the accents well . Chan (Her-ung). I've spent a good chunk of my life researching Choy Lee Fut history and reaching out to elders to gain whatever information i can. I will tell you this, CLF history is rough terrain. Lots of mistruths. lots misleading pieces of information. lots of political bs. in fact, one very high up master of the buk sing lineage who is passed on now, said that Chan Heung never even knew kung fu until Cheung Hung Sing. That Chan Heung was more like a scholar. The only thing he taught Cheung Hung Sing was calligraphy. But much of that was agreed upon not to be brought up again. but later generations dug it up and put it out there. another thing is this, Chan Heung's birthday. Chan family members claim it was in 1806. however, the encyclopedia of guandong has him listed as born in 1814. Some chan fam writings even stated that he was a certain age in 1848 and when you back tracked, it actually placed his year in 1814. Another issue is what did chan yuen wu teach? first they said it was Hung Kuen. then because of huge forum debate i was part of, they changed it to Fut Gar. But now, they claim it was Hung Fut. so which one is it? see, history of CLF is my thing.
Tam Sam had been defeating so many Masters that a man began following him and documented many of Tam Sam's fights , he was working on a book 100 undefeated fights of Tam Sam but unfortunately died before he had finished his book.
@hungsingkwoonusa650 I inherited Sifu Dave Laceys personal file from Sifu George Michelson and it used to contain around 6 of the fight documentations, George must still have them, I remember reading of the fight between Tam Sam and Iron Lohan and Tam Sam's techniques that defeated him, but then Iron Lohan challenged him to a pole fight which ended in a draw so Tam Sam unhappy created a Buk sing Pole form.
Now these are the boxers I like to learn about, I can appreciate mma but it wasn't a sport for these guys and they didn't earn millions for a fight....they earned respect, which is priceless.
That would make an sick Hong Kong action movie back in the 80's lol. There is an movie based on Cheug Hang's life here on youtube but it's not historically accurate
Tam Fei Pang was avtually approached by film producers once about possibly doing a movie about Tam Sam and he declined the offer. Didn't want the legacy tarnished by being over exagerated or understated.
it's ok. laugh all you want at the Muay Thai fighter. I'm Choy Lee Fut, and the guy who defeated the MT fighter is Choy Lee Fut. so, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA trolling ain't easy.
YOU are the joke. Yes, that was a Muay Thai Match. Why are you so dumb? why don't YOU fight Superlek? or buakaw? or whomever? why are you just sitting there typing words instead of proving your point? cause you're no fighter. you're just a keyboard warrior. that's all you'll ever be.. LOSER
Give your fingers a rest man. go for a walk. you're wasting your life trolling on youtube. In fact, please show us YOUR muay thai. im sure you will not post any video of you fighting muay thai. that makes you a MOUTH boxer. are you really proud to be this mouth boxer?
so unless it is Superlek, Tawanchai, Rodtang or even the aging Buakaw, no one else is a Muay Thai fighter????? what about when my student went up against a muay thai fighter in an exclusivley all muay thai combat competition? were they not muay thai fighers either? you sound like a a bully victim mad at the world cause you got beat up.
haha you give me too much credit. but thank you. I'm learning as i go to make these little videos. so, it's a learning process for me. i do appreciate your kind words tho.
Thank you Sifu! It is not easy to find reliable information on Choy Li Fut history, I appreciate the effort. Looking forward to your book on Hung Sing Kwoon's history! 🤜🫷
Thanks for the history. I have loved martial arts all my life. Parents were against it. Despite their objection, I learned secretly a branch of CLF I believe called "Pok Ket" from a sifu in Malaysia. Thus was shortlived as I left for further studies overseas. Learned Wing Chun, Hung Gar n Dong Long.alp of whom were led by 'half baked' sifus. Then found Tai Chi tieards retirement. Never found a good teacher all my life except for Tai Chi. Had I found a sifu like you I believe I would have become good at CLF. I guess my 'karma'did not allow me to become a martial artist. Thanks for keeping the tradition amd spreading the skills of CLF. Keep going. As I was focusing on Tai Chi ended up having spinal issues maybe due to hard knocks when young. If I had found a
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 I had 3 surgeries with 14 implants!.I still do my routine Qi Gong, movements and postures daily without fail. Still love martial arts. Must have been a bad guy in previous lives.
Modern martial artists who say that forms are useless, should know that Choy Lee Fut, one of the most combat-ready styles of kung fu, also contains the most number of forms (about 100).
