That is no good. Multihulls are more stable upside down than when still sailing. And another principle problem with all multihulls is, they get LESS stable when heeling over. You need to watch out when steering. On the other side, multihulls can be very very fast, compared to a monohull, so you pay a price for that speed, and to be honest, multihull people KNOW this. The thing is, on such fast boats the rigging has a hard life, you will see more force on parts, you need to keep checking all parts regularly, or you'll get surprised by things breaking. You should be aware that things are pushed closer to the limits than on average boats. But yeah, a rogue wave, what can you do about that? This is bad luck.
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A similar thing happened to a former coworker sailing down the coast of California from San Francisco to San Diego. I do not know the hull type. The couple had made the same trip several times previously without incident. But the last trip an unseen rogue wave rolled the boat. My coworker, the husband, never saw what happened to his wife and her body was never recovered. I believe that he floated in the sea for 3 days before being rescued.
He could have purchased or made a Jordan Series Drogue (JSD) which is a very long line of small cones that act like parachutes and slow the boat motion down a wave face because the very long length of the weighted line helps to mitigate the power of the rogue wave to pitch pole them or send them sideways because it is attached to two chain plates on the stern using bridles so it catches them before the point of no return is reached. I am amazed at how many experienced sailors keep talking about a trimaran's ability to run away from dangerous heavy seas in contrast to others who seek a super simple reliable system like junk rigs that will function well even in emergencies, as well as a JSD at the ready.
Could a storm swell/winds really have flipped it back upright? I could almost imagine it possible if there was no rigging but even running bare poles wouldn't there be too much resistance? I don't know much about tris but couldn't see that happening on a cat.
Epigwaitt, where have all the older videos gone? can't find the Méduse tale or the one from the pinnacles in the Indian ocean, those were amazing stories!
The first mistake they made was bringing that phil guy along that kept jinxing them by saying oh god we're gonna flip repeatedly!! That mantra alone will make it happen if it wasn't destined to happen!! Just like seeing a cop behind you and the passenger freaks out n says oh shit we're gonna get pulled over!!
What, oh no, please don’t neuter my language! It’s an honour, compliment and a recognition of the female to call a ship “her”. Anyway, what else would you call a ship, “he?”
In 1989 the epirb functioned as a radiobeacon and the system used triangulation, i dont think satellites were part of the system before GPS was widely available. Modern epirbs transmit to satellites digitally with the coordinates it obtains from the GPS constellation. Despite the name not changing, the way it functions and the design completely changed. An '80s epirb was like a weird looking portable VHF, now its almost rudimentary yet tied to the GPS its far more functional. It says im in distress at this exact location, not I'm in distress somewhere in that direction...
Good to have a dark bottom paint to keep the growth down. Lighter colours have much more growth on bottompaint. Critters like light and even light colours.
Sits so high in the water. Looks like they didn't add much balast. Probably skimped on the ballast due to cost. or had some hairbrain idea about running it lightweight.
@@fredread9216 Did you read my comment? " No multihull in the thousands of years they have been sailing has ever used ballast." I've built 2 trimarans and a catamaran. I understand how they work.
VHF is line of sight. As long as the receiving antenna 'sees' the transmitting antenna, reception can be at great distances. I've received clear signals transmitted 40 nm distant. I've been received at over 100 nm. Generally, the higher up the antenna, the greater the distance.
If you're interested, look up attenuation or how atmospheric conditions can affect reception. I once heard very clearly a transmission from a ship in the Gulf of Alaska although I was offshore the central California coast. 'atmospherics' is the only possible answer.
@@smacksmanDidja notice that Glenny didn't provide station identification? His fear was being fined for transmitting without a licence. I wonder if having provided ID could have brought rescue much sooner. In the 1980s, a small handful of commercial fishing boats from the U.S. used the frequency of an AM radio station in Japan to talk to each other. None had ham licences. As long as that station continued to broadcast, those vessels could transmit in the clear. A couple of years later I heard that at least two vessels were caught when the AM station changed freq.
@@petermiller114 Yes and they had snorkels and tools to cut it off and possibly retrieve as well. Maybe they sat on their hands a little relying on their epirb. Maybe being waist deep in a capsized boat is a struggle enough. Plenty of thoughts and ideas on imrovements can come from this. Ive allready seen underside hatches on some trimarans. Would a Farrier type trimaran with folding amas work. Could they fold in an ama and right the boat. Since its not a folding ama, could they have sawed one off. And used ropes to right it.
@@jonymanay You are obviously not a sailor. There are no ropes on a sailing vessel, there are lines. Cutting off a 45 foot mast filled with water and retrieving it is not practical. Sawing off one of the floats is not practical. Why demolish the boat that is keeping you alive?
On an upright sailboat -- with an intact rudder and nice hull shape -- you can still steer the boat and thus sail slowly toward a destination with a jury-rig. With an up-side-down boat you would have very high water resistance and thus a very-very slow speed through the water. With this slow speed and the wave action normally encountered at sea, it's unlikely a jury-rigged rudder would be able to steer the boat -- the waves would overwhelm any rudder input. A jury-rigged sail would thus only be able to make the boat move a little in the downwind direction. Thus, you would only want a sail if you thought the downwind direction was better than the direction of the current. It doesn't appear they knew which way they were drifting anyway, so there would be reason to want to change their direction to a different unknown direction.
Well, this just can’t be, because _the Science_ first confidently claimed there were no such thing as rogue waves…until a tanker ship in 1978 was hit with a rogue wave. But then _the Science_ again confidently claimed rogue waves only happen once every 10,000 years. Until a study in 2008 using satellite images discovered rogue waves happen several times each week. But also trust and never question _the Science._
I think you have science confused with something else. Science creates theories from observations that are held to be true unless evidence disproves it. Science is the opposite of blind trust - scientific theories have been continually proven wrong, leading to better theories that can explain the discrepancies. Also, scientists are people and aren't infallible. Even a genius like Einstein, who was right about so many things, was wrong about quantum entanglement.
The USN Ramapo, an oiler, encountered a rogue during or shortly after WWII. Investigation of eyewitness testimony determined the wave to be 120'. This in Force 4 seastate.
@@markleyg Again. Yes really. Capsize is VERY rare in MODERN cruising cats and tri’s. Extreme racing multi’s are designed on the edge of the safety envelope. This is just a statistical fact.
@fredread9216 I would argue that capsize are rare do to advanced weather prediction. You have failed to provide any engineering advancements that prevent capsize. I look forward to you educating me.
@@markleyg that's exactly it.. weather technology and the ability to have more knowledge of sailing before even going anywhere is what has changed. The designs are the same
Multihulls have the potential to capsize. Monohull sailboats, with tons of ballast have the potential to sink. Pick your poison. All sailors know there is some risk. I think we want to live fully, and not die slowly of boredom.
You start dying the day your born, rather than trying to make it as many boring years as possible some of us decided along time ago to not worry about the length of your life but instead put as much life as possible into the years that you live.
Thank you as always for another great video. I had never heard this story before, and it's a banger. Can't wait for the next one. ...I got spoiled when I first discovered your channel because I had dozens of stories to choose from. Now... I must wait. Still, I can't thank you enough for all the recent uploads. I know how time-consuming creating new content can be. Thanks again!
Check out all their content. There are hours of amazing storytelling, especially the accounts of shipwrecks and survival early in the area's recorded history (New Zealand/Australia, etc). Amazing content.....
Many factors at play here. Choices. Etc. Rogue waves can, may, and will flip, capsize, knock down any vessel. Bashing a multihull for the sake of it being a multihull is absurd and reeks of ignorance.
Terrifying. As someone who grew up sailing in NZ we always had a genuine fear of both multihulls and fibreglass boats. For good reason. (And also boats with bolt-on keels...)
Do you folk prefer steel, full keeled 65 footers? After sailing out of Eureka California with the miserable Humboldt Bar you have to get in and out of, my 26 foot fiberglass sloop with a bolt on fin keel often felt like a toy when waves were in the 10 foot range and fairly close together. Good boat but too short and way too fragile for serious weather. New Zealand seems like a area you would want seriously tough vessels.
So any boat then? What this story shows is that a multihull still will float. And you have a good chance of surviving with so much gear onboard. A keeled boat is likely to sink if you have water Ingres, leaving you exposed and less resources.
I have a friend with a catamaran and he swears by them because they generally won't sink if they have a lighter than water core to the fibreglass although I would think that some of the heavier non-performance catamarans with big engines may well sink and indeed there is a RU-vid channel about restoring a Leopard 50 which was only a few months old which totally sank in the US although in shallow water.
That's the first thing that came to my mind too😮. I said "please GOD 🙏save them from any harm 🙏 😢. Then as the video started. I realised it's an old event and I become more inspired by the story. And what a mixed emotion story that ended up well. Enjoyed watching 👀 and thank you for sharing this awesome story 👌👍🥰💯🙏
I know of another tri capsize in the Pacific. The sole occupant was trapped upside down. It took him three days to escape the wreck by digging out of the hull with a spoon. Luck was with him and a helicopter off a large tuna boat spotted him. Morale: don’t sail a tri offshore. They are great for minor waters only.
They also hold most of the offshore race records .. and race and cruise the worlds oceans. Latest a carbon fiber racer lost one Amma, ripped off the port side. Sailed all the way back to port. Why didn't they deploy multiple drouge lines. esierbto recover than a sea anchor. Composit cored multies are usually boyant even flooded eitherway up.
Flipping a multihull is safer than a keel breaking of a mono. A mono will sink and you will be exposed with few resources. A multihull will float providing you with shelter and resources., also a big object for search and rescue to see
@@AORD72 Just make sure the underside has high Vis markings ... even a large multi or any other with a white or black underside in a storm foam lashed sea can be hard to spot .. even in day light. Waterproof strobe beacons help ...but if you're a long way out you better be prepared for a long wait .. and stay close to the boat .. even in a life raft. There are several quality Composite multihull boats that have been recovered after months or even a year after being flooded out...dismasted or inverted they've been recovered towed back and rebuilt. Race, explorer cruising and working mutihulls are usually built with crash boxes and watertight bulkheads anyway because of construction rules or just their higher speeds mean it's needed. If you hit a floating object at 12-25 or possibly 30+knots you are going to need all those and built in permanent buoyancy. I've never really figured out why more explorers aren't kitted with emergency/ salvage floatation bags built in.
Really glad I stumbled apon this channel a few weeks ago. These fascinating stories of history and survival are so compelling. Thanks Epigwaitt History!!
I love it every time someone finds this channel. It should easily have hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and by this time next year I reckon it will....
My father Captain Ian Cook was supposed to be on that voyage but withdrew after feeling very uncomfortable about the voyage. He had done many blue water voyages in yachts, ships and delivering fishing boats across the globe.
