Why doesn't Lego just change the proportions so that the bottom hole is higher up and only 1 of them. At least then it would look more normal, just a slightly longer side part which I think would be better. Looking back to the original Lego ARC Trooper, it did that. The helmet hole is closer to the top hole on the new helmets and just had 1 hole. You can even put the hole slightly lower so the rangefinder then doesn't look too weird. Or alternatively, keep the helmet as is but make the helmet hole part inverted so the silhouette is normal but the hole is in the correct position. This would work just as good imo, though I do think the above mentioned idea is better as it already clearly worked with the ARC trooper in the past.
Helmet hole does seem to cause gap printings because of their printing machine limit unlike third party customs that can do better. About two helmets the 2013 helmet for troopers and named clones that don’t have helmet attachments while 2022 helmets works for classes, named clones but some people do and don’t like idea of sorting system cause it takes too long I know bad batch was last clone to have 2013 helmet. The dual mold p2 helmet sunvisor I thought it could work like buildable cody in skywalker saga tt games sometimes make the design of pieces that look better than what we got from actual design but there are so many colors for sunvisor that would take way too long to make different color sunvisor as dual mold.
No I agree with you. The only thing that I would add to this is the fact that the designers feel the need to change the design every few years. I think the helmets were great in 2014 and I can’t understand why the designers went through the trouble of making a new mold, which theoretically cost them more money when no one was asking for one
Helmet holes are going to stay because lego is a children's toys and the helmet holes add customization along with the fact the holes are perfectly fine I'm tired of every one repeating the same brain dead opinion because mnr or some other terminally online creator said it the holes are perfectly fine the only valid issue with the helmets is the printing the holes are perfectly fine
Finally a small content creator who doesn't hate on Lego all the time. I get pretty sick of MandR complaining in his videos. Keep up the great work man!!!
I honestly don’t mind the helmet holes or "helmet warts". I think LEGO did what they could in favor of customization, and I do think that's the right way to go because that's what LEGO is all about. I do not, however, like that all the waist capes are printed now. It just looks awkward that they're just two measly strips of color down the front of the legs. Maybe it would look better if they printed on the sides of the legs, but I still would rather have the cloth ones or even the hard plastic one, even though it restricts movement.
@Ankh_The_Artist I'm not sure if you will see this but the discussion did get a little heated and I hope everyone didn't get to upset about it and I respect your opinion
@@definitely_just_floating that would’ve been a lot better but the helmets still look really fat, meanwhile every other helmet design besides the new stormtrooper one has perfect proportions
i hate the stormtrooper helmets they are waaay to huge i think they wanted to incorporate more detail but that ended up looking bad. it sucks that the older minidigs were better literally should be the other way around
Helmet holes are a massive improvement over the old helmets. And the general sculpt of the newer helmets fits modern Lego design way better. I truly do not understand why people act like helmet holes are a problem in any way. Are people going to complain about legs having holes on the back? Or the hands just being claws? Lego figures are caricatures and don't need 100% perfect accurate detail.
The reason people complain is because it looks like there are are 2 sets of holes which looks bad and I’m going to be talking about it in my next video
They completely don’t. Every other helmet except the stormtrooper has accurate proportions, especially the scout and TIE helmets. The clown helmets make them so fat and warp the printing, just look at the 332nd and 212th helmets. And then they don’t even work that well, the visor gets stretched by then since it’s not designed for that helmet and then the rangefinder is comically high up so much that Lego changed its placement on one of their boxes. This entire thing could’ve been solved by putting the holes in the right place, like in GCCs new Rex helmet which is perfection And how hard is it for you people to understand no one hates the actual holes they just hate where they are because they look ugly af
@@omarbaba9892 "how hard is it for you people to understand" is a really weird attempt at an ad hominem attack, which is a fallacious argument. Please respond in a more coherent and measured way.
@@Ankh_The_Artist no because half the arguments I see for helmet holes think people hate them for the fact holes are actually there, that’s just plain false
@@omarbaba9892 I really do not care. You're complaining that a caricature toy is not 100% perfectly accurate. That's absurd. Please go outside and interact with people off the internet. Stop spamming my notifications with replies
Neither the holes or the new stormtrooper helmets are problems in my opinion. I like the customization options that the holes have given for p2 clones and I personally prefer the look of the new stormtrooper helmets to the old ones.
It’s ok to like the new stormtrooper helmets and everyone has their own opinion I just personally don’t like them and there are the flaws mentioned in the video. And it is good to be able to customize the p2 clones but I don’t think it was done in the best way and my next video is going to be about that.
@DK_Studios_ There really wasn't a better way for Lego to add the customization to p2 helmets, though? If the holes were in the right spots, then the visors wouldn't work with the new helmets, and if they made new visors, then those visors and the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with the p1 and Mandalorian helmets, which would limit customization for kids. Lego went the route that, while it doesn't look the best, makes the most sense from a toy company perspective and allows for the most croos-helmet customization options.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102they should’ve just made a new visor mould, big deal. The rangefinder is comically high up on the new holes and the visor literally gets stretched in them so it doesn’t work in the phase 1 helmets as well as it just flops about
Finally someone said it. The new stormtrooper helmets are way worse than helmets holes. It looks like it was just smushed down or beat with a mallet. The 2014 stormtrooper is the best
I think the real problem with the newer clone helmets is that people are not used to seeing holes on Phase II helmets. The Phase I and Mando helmet remolds had holes right away and noone is complaining. In my opinion helmet holes on Phase II should have been a thing from the start. Rex and Crosshair just looked so cheap and underwhelming without their range finders and clones like Cody are now possible. No longer redoing Commander Gree over and over again. Lego's given us the clone figures we want as well as the ability to better mix and match pieces, making custom clone officers like we used to in the good old The Clone Wars days.
I’m planning on making my next video about helmet holes but the problem is that for the range finders the holes are above where they should be and I will cover the visors in the video (which is it’s own problem) and yeah even tho the old stuff to customize the clones are dated it would be cool if they brought it back.
@@DK_Studios_ Yes, that's true of course, the range finder is supposed to be plugged into the "ear" while the visor is mounted on top of it. At least the visor is in the right spot. Question is, what if Lego decided to put the ear a little bit higher? Maybe that may look awkward, arguable less accurate (as far as a Lego minifig can be accurate) and then we would have another problem. But placing the holes lower would then result in the visor beeing placed at the wrong height and making an altered mold for it would result in weird angled mounting points. I can't think of a solution that is perfect, aside from going all on with custom molds, adding a P2 helmet with a single hole on the ear for a range finder, another P2 helmet for the visor addon or with the visor already integrated and no holes for regular helmets but then again this would defeat the whole purpose of those holes if we can't use them for customization, to lego with them. Either way, Lego had to choose one compromise over the others. That's why I believe, the holes should have been there right away. In that case they could've created a P2 mold that is meant for adding stuff. But now they just edited an older mold that wasn't meant for that. Lego could still do an entire remold for P2 helmets to make them look good AND customizable. But then again, people would be mad, I would be mad. We haven't waiten for so long to get Cody, Rex and Fives just for them to be outdated once a new helmet mold arrives. It's a really tricky situation and I can absolutley see all where all opinions are coming from.
So I’m going to address this from a LEGO and artistic point of view rather than function point of view. This helmet is garbage because it’s not LEGO. Almost all thing LEGO make has a certain artistic aesthetic. It makes them look and have a feeling of LEGO. Lego minifigs are separate form action figure by look because of the unique body shapes and proportion, it’s not the shape of a human, but it represents on in a Lego way. The Lego hands are like c-clamps while our real hands have fingers, yet we can compare them as similar, as hands. The stormtrooper helmet design does not fit Lego, it attempts for an ultra hyper accurate helmet (Which it isn’t even, it’s too elongated) yet in the process of making it more “realistic” it looks less lego. It has a poor shape, poor size, and poor coloring (I will get to that in a bit). It looks like it’s for an action figure, NOT for Lego, this is what so many people hate about it without knowing why, the people then nitpick on detail they could point out like not turning the helmet, but in all aspects, it doesn’t look Lego, it feels wrong to look at. Here we can compare to the newer and older Darth Vader Lego helmet, both of which are still Lego in looks. The original Lego earth Vader helmet had the perfect Lego silhouette, even if the shape wasn’t accurate, it looked Lego and thus matched with the Lego body proportions. The new Vader helmet while more realistic maintained a Lego look however since it was scaled very well and did not conflict with the Lego body and take all the visual strength. The helmet was not too small and not too big. The new stormtrooper helmet however fails at this. The helmet is massive, its chin makes the helmets appear far too large, throwing off the size scaling balance for helmets and the minifigures body, now it makes it look like you placed an action figure helmet onto Lego. This more “realistic” look made this worse as the helmet not only took away the visual focus from the entire figure and focused it towards the helmet, but the size made it stand out even more, making the torso less noticeable. People notice the helmet looks off because their eyes focus on it, its massive size and non Lego like look make it stand out as a problem and look wrong. Next the torso and legs aid in making the helmet and legs look worse. Notice how Lego does not make the stormtroopers have black hips, well the black hips played such an important visual role. The lines on the stormtrooper armor are thin and black, our human eyes however instinctively noticing the things that stand out, the thicker lines, because of this, when the black hips were replaced by white hips, what part contains the most visually striking amount of black? The helmet, the eyes and forehead line. With poor scaling the lines and eyes are thick black, while everything on the legs and torso are thin black lines, this makes the helmets even more focused on as well as making it not even match the body artistically If anything this seems like a way for Lego to find a way to jack up the price of minifigures and give a crap justification with little complaints. Lego is doing this forced exclusiveness for Star Wars minifigures, notice how in the past (2001-2012ish) or something, they gave way more minifigures in general, while most sets now in comparison have so little. Lego wants you to buy more set and they get money. Sure they could say they did this because unreliable printing but they’ve been improving on this for years, we went from the French mustache stormtroopers to the godly rogue one stormtroopers. People want stormtroopers, even if they hate the helmet, hell I buy many of them for their bodies and try to sell or replace the dual molded helmets and with the older helmets. Helmet holes can be ignore because the helmet still does fit into a Lego look and aesthetic, but the stormtrooper helmet does not look Lego
I think this is an issue that has very much been overshadowed by the helmet holes, which I feel shouldn’t be ignored as it makes the figure look much worse in comparison. They definitely should reverse it or make improvements. I wonder how this has affected army building? 🤔💭For me, I definitely haven’t gotten nearly as many as the previous versions.
I don't get the thing about the holes, they are just plastic little brick guys, they aren't meant to be that realistic, I think the og clone helmets better represented they were simply Lego, now the new design of helmets for storm troopers, yes not good
@@DK_Studios_ yeaaa sure did, my first few sets was the snow trooper battle pack, the rebel trooper battle pack, the battle of naboo, clone trooper battle pack, mandolorian battle pack, elite clone trooper and commando droid battle pack and endor trooper and imperial trooper battle pack Sold all my Legos from 2010-2023 for 50, just how it was at the time, shouldn't of but, yeaaa
i do not understand the turning helmet argument. i couldn't turn my older helmets either so what gives. I personally prefer the newer helmets over the older ones.... They look better than the 2014 ones....
I and many other people think the 2014 look the best though you can have your own opinion. Also the helmet turning thing is also a problem on older stormtroopers just especially these ones as you really have to have them pop up to turn them.
I think LEGO is going to stay away from the sequels as they are very controversial but I agree we need more sets from the PT and a little less from the cw even though it’s very popular now and hopefully we will get some rots sets for the 20th anniversary
I definitely agree with the stormtrooper helmets but seriously? Helmet holes? I personally think that its great because then you can put visors rangefinders and macro binoculars.
The idea of helmet holes is good but they are placed on the wrong part of the helmet so they look bad on clones without any attachments but I’m currently working on a video on helmet holes that will be coming soon so I can explain my points better
