I don't know why there's such a fuss about whether they're still EMUs. Of course they are, even if they're not actually being powered by third rail. I'm more interested in the description of 7105 as a 4-CEP when it appears to have a BEP trailer...
I was thinking something similar. How were the BIGs numbered? 70xx? Or were they 73xx? The VEGs (79xx) were modified VEPs with extra storage for Gatwick?
It's definitely a BEP. I used to keep an eye out for them when studying in Portsmouth in the late 80s. Always gravitated to the buffet car on trios up to London. Great trains
They can they don't have the money to I would allow them to do it but if it was diesel and steam stock the third rail goes off and current off if its just electric trains they can run on there own power with no diesel or electric near them.
That brought back memories of travelling Greater London areas with my dad as a kid in the 80’s. He was a Kent man also. I can still hear the doors closing and clicking.
Question (and I suspect no one will know the right answer): Since privatisation, how much money was spent painting trains due to changing contracts/ToCs rather than simply keeping a version of BR's paintworks then putting decals on them to say "This train is operated by XXX" (the way London buses have the operator on the engine cover)? Lovely video though as these old Mark 1 EMUs and DMUs are part of the post-war national story in a way. Just a shame so many were simply scrapped rather than used, say for example, as static "museum rooms" at major train stations (if such a thing could be done, I mean, if you know Tynemouth on the Tyne & Wear Metro I've always thought one of the platform bays could have been a mini-museum to the Tyneside Electrics).
I'm no Financial Expert but it would've been alot , more than 3 million likely. most companies didn't even change anything. (As seen in Alot of Services Out of Waterloo in the Early years of Privatization.) Some Companies did Repaint most of their Fleet (Connex SouthEastern) And some didn't. Southern did a little bit but that's it because most companies didn't bother. About the Cost , it would've been around 9 Million since Repainting is A Little costly. And Yes , Alot of companies in the first 4 Years did slap their logo onto BR Paintworks just like EMR With EMT in the Late 2010s.
When the tynemouth station was originally built there was a third route that ended at tynemouth when traffic was lower on the other 2 routes. Over time they stopped using it because they went with twin routes in order to maximise the number of available rolling stock. Plus tynemouth has one of the biggest markets in the entire north east of England on the station every week. The reason that the tynem platforms are way bigger than the trains is because the original station building was built by LNER during the 1920’s in order to allow access to tynemouth docks back in the day and it was used extensively in world war 2. Also the total department of transport figures are 35 million right now and it was a copyright infringement issue for the logos. It’s immaterial anyway because the railways are being renationalised in the uk under the name Great British railways on the 1st of January 2025 and the old br logos are coming back in full not just on preservation based services. The Twin Directional logo otherwise known as the double arrow will be back in force.
I well remember the 4-COR/4-RES/4-COR formations on the Waterloo-Portsmouth services. They stand-out as the most comfortable trains EVER. Thank you for showing 3142 on the move.
The MLV on the front of the set is battery-powered so able to haul the set over the flat section into Eythorne station. A 09 shunter was attached for the steep gradients.
@@TheScpotter I didn't notice it was an MLV. I remember they were used on boat trains to Folkestone Harbour where the end of the line at the quay was not electrified.
much of the the transformer, rectifier and motor seem intact on these trains - and its not like the signaling system has changed since they were around, with little effort they could run on the mainline under their own power/
Yes, we love the Caldon Canal but didnt have the clearance to go through Frogall Tunnel, having to take the footpath to reach the end of navigation instead. At least we can now say we had a virtual cruise through the tunnel on Dorado!
