I have a very similar setup to yours... do you have any caution connecting destiny+ & ciat? or it can be freely connected between them? Thanks in advance!
@@gabriellora6683 I've asked the best people there are to ask on the subject and they said it was very likely to be safe so long as everything is grounded together (mine is both via the black banana connector on the back / sides of the unit but then also via audio cables all being plugged via the same mixer) From what I've read, there's nothing that should be a risk really though if there is any concern, it's that one could potentially damage the rollz on plumbutter.. I've tried patching the rollz to most things extensively with no trouble.. kirkis warned me that the sq root on psyche is the main one to worry about as it's quite a high current circuit.. I'm also a little careful when patching the division ring on psyche with rollz as I know this can also swing +/-12v Short answer.. yes it's generally fine to patch to your heart's content but I haven't tested patching rollz to sq root / div ring Feel free to PM me too and I can talk more on this..
@@Petajaja thanks for the long and detailed answer! Both machines families are very deep and I try to go safe with all the stuff related to connections :) but your answer helps a lot. Which is your handle on IG? So I can follow you there! Have a great weekend!
Great demo! Loved the close out :D. How do you like the two Motas? I've got one myself and have always thought if I wanted to assemble a large poly synth I'd buy a bunch more of those.
Yeah I'm a huge fan of the Motas, it's doubling in value to me now as I combine it with modular gear, even with just four CV inputs, there's so much you can do to create an array of related signals that can be used in the Motas via the advanced mod section. Yeah I had though about a Motas poly too though I think to some extent, it'd be too rich a sound for typical poly duties, one Motas can already be quite dominant in a track with it's sonic richness
It's the synth BUT it's not there in normal usage.. that crackling is a result of using the phase modulation in a way that wasn't intended to approach wavefolding / wave shaping sounds. Have a listen and see if you can hear them in other demos
@@Petajaja Thank you very much for your answer! I find this synthesizer very interesting and am looking forward to testing it in the famous store in Berlin, but at the moment it is not available there.
buying these or Richard Devine's discography? : ) is there any chance to distinguish which sounds come from which of the two units? not that it's needed, though. But I am wondering how could you relate to adjustments by ear
Haha, yeah I often think these kinds of patches sound like his stuff, I think of them just as great demos of it's potential. In this video there's probably not an easy way to distinguish the two from eachother other than that the obviously percussive sounds are coming from the cells but both can fill any role you want really. In terms of how I relate to adjustments, that's a good question and I find that these instruments really force you to listen very closely so it's largely just a case of that as well as me knowing what the key parameters are in any patch ive made
This was just a quick patch I made before work this morning but I'm happy with where two of the key patch techniques are taking me which is as you've mentioned before, using the oscillators as LFO's for the PN aswell as stacking sq waves to generate pitch CV
I hadn't thought of stacking the square waves, but I liked the results here. Sync'ing the oscillator(s) to an LFO provides some unique rhythms as well. @@Petajaja
@@JuanDale yeah that's a good idea, do you use the hard sync inputs for that or do the soft sync work fine here too? (I imagine soft would work fine) I'm sure there's some interesting feedback patches using the complex LFO's syncing the 4 oscillators and then them FMing the complex oscillators. These instruments really are amazing in how much more there is to them than what's immediately obvious, especially when you come from a more traditional architecture synth background.
I really like the hard sync input for it, it's a little easier to hear/feel what is happening with the resulting rhythms. It's basically setting a meter within which the sync'd oscillator will create a continuously variable set of divisions. IOW, it makes the patterns repeat at the interval of the syncing oscillator's frequency. Cool shit. @@Petajaja
Yeah they're pricey but very special imo, but also worth noting that it's kind of like learning a new instrument so it'll probably be years before I can confidently perform on these
i wanted to get one on reverb but it sold...bummer...hard to get the Czochralski now...Love your Vid...Sell me both of yours when your ready to part with them....lol...no serious
Haha yeah they're ridiculous instruments, they're capable of more normal stuff too but it's entertaining trying to push them to be as crazy as possible
the video looks cool and the sound is interesting. Unfortuantely, I have no idea how this sound loop was created. Do you have a "how to" video on the patch?
I don't much could be interpreted from looking at the patch from a glance, the patch cables are just a mess of spaghetti by the time I get a patch to the point I record it. I also don't really feel I could currently do such a vid much justice as generally when I patch, I only have a loose idea I'm looking to explore and they turn out not so great quite regularly (though less so as I get more familiar with these)
It is quick but it does take some time for it to become muscle memory and it's so incredible deep that it's going to take time for everything to become intuitive.. I personally think the UI is very nicely done, nothing's ever more than a couple button presses away but I know some people haven't ended up gelling with it as well as I have.. I do think you have to be someone who enjoys spending time programming a patch and exploring sound design. Tough question to answer really but it's honestly one of the best synths ever made imo and criminally underrated, the recent update that introduced an incredibly deep mod matrix just takes it to a whole other level of depth in what was already an incredibly deep synth. I could go on endlessly.. hopefully that's helped but I recommend reading the manual to get a better grasp if it may be for you
@@Petajaja thanks man. yes, reading the manual is on my to do list before lining up for the next batch. i might come back with questions here or the gearspace thread where i saw you there
@@mamakuproject yeah just get in touch if you have any questions, would love for there to be others who find this thing and love it as much as I do :) I've had mine for 3 or 4 years now and still am constantly finding new ways to approach it I'm actually planning on making some new videos soon show casing some patches utilizing the advanced mod section and maybe showing some patches from scratch
@@Petajaja cool man. I’d love a run down on the actual UI, especially how you assign EG and LFO per parameter, and how you see modulation assignments later to know what’s going on. I also would like to see how you control the amount of mod and if you can scale/ offset it. Also the sequencer. Can it sequence parameters? I’d like to see it in action with some closeups on the screen for all those things. That would be primo! Thanks
