Certified elevated rescuer here... Too complicated... Too many moving parts... And as an EMS provider , no med kit and took too long.. he could have bled out by now. More body retrieval then actual rescue.😢
You made me me climb up here to help you get unstuck well here ur gonna swing right next to my junk and I'm gonna mess around with ropes for a min 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been there underground on long rope. 1974, taking a man off his rope using my harness fitted rope-walker SRT up, transfer the disabled explorer, and use my rappel hardware downward. A stokes litter was required due to a head injury (rock fall). Summoned same from a FD, made victim comfortable, and waited 4 hours. Being in a roadless canyon off Sheep Ranch Road in Central California. Moral: If on-rope and you hear a yell of "ROCK" do not look up to see the falling rock. Let the climbing helmet get hit and protect your head.
Wtf was all that. Why couldnt he just remove the guys ascender, remove his fall arrest then push the lever on his belay device while he pushes his own and lower them both at the same time... it sure wouldnt take him 7 minutes
You are forgetting about the rope stretch. With basic gear you can not lower a casualty onto yourself from a croll rescue. There is just to much stretch on these long drops.
I’m 77kg and have performed a croll rescue with the same basic counterbalance technique on a 105kg dummy. no extra gear required. It is all technique and body position.
@@TheRopeAccessChannel another question. is it really legal to rescue someone with two descenders like that at the end? I’ve never heard of or seen that. I was always taught to operate my working and backup line separately when in rescue. Just would like your opinion, I always like to learn different mechanics.
@@Sh4tterdL0g1c legality is up to the local rules and regulations and which rope access system you use (irata/sprat/fisat). However you need 2 separate points of attachment when suspended. That seems to be a global rule when suspended on ropes. When doing a small rope to rope transfer your also suspended on two loaded ropes when transferring the backup. Especially on long drops two descenders is much safer because you limit you fall distance. Imagine the stretch in you backup rope when loaded in a fall on an asap(or any backup device) when you have 100 meter rope above you. So perfectly fine in my opinion 👍🏼👍🏼
@@TheRopeAccessChannel yea fair enough I see your point. I just wanted to hear your point of view because like I said, I’ve never seen that done before. I work sprat in the states so we don’t use asaps we use ducks. And I’ve always been taught to not tow your duck when descending with a rescue so when I saw this I thought it was interesting. Thanks for your input 👍
@@TheRopeAccessChannel also, I posted that original comment 2 years ago and I probably had my level one for like a month I knew nothing back then lol. Sorry if you thought I was being negative when you read the OP
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@@cshuchlo2 Поднимаешься или спускаешься к потерпевшему, связываешь его систему со своей и обрезаешь его спусковую (рабочую верёвку) выше его спускового устройства.
Basically he just ensured that even if he slipped up with the pick off he'd still have the ID and his two points of contact to the guy vs just lowering him onto the 2 points of contact
I disagree that this was an overly long rescue. Having trained over 700 guys to IRATA certification and assessed about the same, I feel it was a good enough time frame.Descending on 2 IDs is a good method. In response to the guy who asked if it was legal, it is expected from the IRATA TACS that experienced techs have an awareness of this method.I saw a Training Centre in Eastern Europe train this way and they did not use a friction krab - half the weight of 2 people is one, hence no extra load... I reckon the user can make this call.Not a bad rescue.
