it's so weird cause i am a US womens size 7, but i am a size 5 in doc martens. my 1460's took a while to break in bc they were so tight around the top of my foot and toe area. i got blisters on my heels and my feet overall were very sore. i used the wonder balsam, massaged my shoes and kept them in a warm area. it took me 2.5 years to break them in and now they fit me literally just fine! they're a little big on me but not too big. they're a comfortable fit, the boots are a bit more narrow so they did stretch out but aren't wide on my feet. i have wiggle room but again, they fit fine and don't bother me. i at first got a size 6 in the 8065 mary janes but they were too big and wide for my feet. i could tell they didn't fit right and i ended up sizing down to a 5. i did the breaking in method with the wonder balsam, massage and sitting them in the sun for an hour (idk if that is recommended but i kept an eye on them and it's one of the more tame doc marten break in methods i've seen LOL.) they did basically break in within a day by doing that. even the buckles are very easy to deal with and before that they were so stiff and hard to deal with. the shoes are much looser now and kinda feel too big tbh - because they're a wider shoe. i have narrow feet. i have to take the insoles out because my feet are snug in the shoes with them in. but i guess i'll have to wear some thicker socks/find some other way to make them comfortably snug. i will say though, that my mary janes are still uncomfortable an inch or two in front of my ankles. the leather along the top part of the shoes is really stiff! that's the main issue i have with the shoes because they hurt me after a while but i know that they will be fine the more i wear them/use the wonder balsam. the other issue i have is the bottom of my feet hurting due to not having an insole so i'll have to find a looser one with some support. but yeah: i think it's interesting how sizing can be different depending on each person. i'm satisfied with a size 5!! i will also say that those are the only two pairs of DM's i have so i can't say this is a general experience for me nor am i trying to say this will be the case for everyone with skinny and narrow feet :)
I love these shoes but they get ruined so easily. I just had to buy myself a new pair because the ones I bought not even 2 years ago got a hole in them and the coating peeled away from the shoe. You're supposed to buy the 'wonder balsam' for them which is so ridiculous to me because the shoe is already so expensive! but learn from my mistake and get the balsam and be prepared to maintain them :( or else you'll have an expensive mess on your hands...
I have the black 1461 unisex shoes in size 9 (men’s size 8) and they are a half size too big. I bought them online so you take a chance when buying before trying.