I can say not many hw champs have had such wepon as Ingemar Johansson had in his right . He was never in the same class after this match he liked too much the good life, god or baid we dont know.
Detroit went 5-1 in the division last year. They destroyed the Jags and smashed the Giants last year, both were playoff teams. Detroit started playing defense second half of the season last year and completely overhauled their secondary in the offseason. Detroit is loaded with talent and have depth everywhere on the roster. Detroit has an elite O-line and the best O-coordinator in the league. Third year in a row GM Brad Holmes knocked it out of the park in the draft. Minnesota were frauds last year and will not win all those close games again this year. They did little to improve their roster this year. They will not finish ahead of Detroit. GB actually has a solid defense and good RB’s but we don’t know much about Love. I typically don’t even mention the bears cause they are awful and Fields although electric running the ball, he hasn’t shown he can make proper reads and throw the ball accurately to win games. The D and O line’s are terrible. Even if you believe in the bears and the direction they are headed, they are still a year or two behind Detroit in terms of roster talent and rebuilding.
John Wayne was at ringside. He was talking with someone next to him at the precise moment that Johansson’s right hand dropped Patterson for the first knockdown of 7. Wayne didn’t see the knockdown. The next evening, I was at a wedding rehearsal and I said to World Boxing Hall of Famer, Young Firpo, “Johansson must be some kind of hitter to drop Patterson 7 times!” Young Firpo simply looked at me and said: “Yes … but he didn’t keep him down did he John!” His words were prophetic!
In those days when you knocked somebody down you didn't have to go to a neutral corner during the count. Patterson was clearly out on his fewet after the first knockdown and the fight should have been stopped then.
Patterson had a glass chin. Though he won the rematch by way of knockout, he was easily defeated by true heavyweights and just didn't belong in the heavyweight division.
That first shot he took from Johansson would have taken the wind out of anyone's sails, and getting hit by Liston was no joke either. He lost inside the distance once to Johansson, twice to Liston and to Ali on the basis of taking a couple of beatings, but no one else ever managed to stop him.
That is a myth that gets repeated over and over by folks not familiar with Floyd's career. Only ONE man ever put him down for the count and that was Sonny Liston. 1 man in 65 fights? Gass Jaw-I think not.
It should have been stopped after the very first knockdown. Patterson turned his back and was walking toward Johansen's corner. He had no idea where he was. The second knockdown should have been it. No way it should have gotten to seven knockdowns.
Ruby Goldstein did an abysmal job of refereeing. Patterson turned his back after the first knock down. Clearly not knowing where he was. Goldstein let him get knocked down six more times after that. Ridiculous. Goldstein would be crucified on sports talk radio if he did that today.
Watching that match I have always felt that if Floyd Patterson had been able to survive the third round he would have been able to collect his senses and then later have gone on the win the match. Did you notice how quickly he got back up after going down for that seventh time? Johansson it seems didn't have enough strength in him to be able to put him down on the canvas long enough for the ten count.
Point well taken, but it's easy to say after the bout. Things happen very quickly in the ring,, and everyone back then wanted to give a champion an extra chance to defend his title. Archie Moore's incredible comeback vs. Yvonne Durelle happened less than a year before,a bout that could have easily been stopped in the first or fifth round. Ruby Goldstein was a top referee (and boxer in his day) but caught a lot of grief in his career for either stopping bouts too soon or too late. His ultimate nightmare was Griffith-Paret III.
Johansson was a one trick pony but it was a neat trick. He had one dynamite punch and would hide the right while prodding with his left. Once his opponent got careless he'd lower the boom. He bombed out several superior boxers using this method.
And yet Johansson got this title shot by knocking out the then top ranked Eddie Machen in a single round the year previous. The following year Machen would go the distance with Sonny Liston and was the last man to do so before Muhammed Ali defeated Liston for the title. Boxing can be a cruel and unpredictable sport.
I think Liston would have beaten nearly everyone senseless. Ali in the first fight was just too agile/fast. I don't take their second fight seriously. Liston is a tad underrated in the greatest heavyweights of all time, even though he lost the two fights to Ali he kept fighting, had only 1 more loss in all his 16 fights after the two Ali fights. I think a line would have been put through his name for further challenges after the second Ali fight.
Bunk! Patterson didn't take the fight serious because he had a string of soft opponents. He also made the same mistake Louis made: dropping his left. He would not have made that mistake again.Watch the fight again. He is still on his feet after seven knockdowns.
Ha ha, I read a Ring Magazine comment from after the fight and it said "One thing for sure Patterson is no Joe Louis, He will not do what Joe did to Schmelling". Like to meet that guy.
I remember listening to this on the radio with my grandfather when I was a kid. I was shocked but Gramps told me not to worry, Floyd would get him in the rematch.....thanks for taking me back so many years to this great fight.
Floyd was greater than Ali!!! I listened to fight with my dad and brother in the car outside Howard Johnsons restaurant. He was decency personified, and the peoples Champion!!! God bless you Floyd!!!
At 182 pounds, Floyd Patterson was too light to fight as a heavyweight. He should have fought as a light heavyweight. He always had a glass jaw when he went up against hard punchers.
You would never have made a business manager. Go back and look at what Light Heavyweights got paid. Patterson made millions as a heavyweight. He would have got paid half that as a LH. THe LH limit was 175 and he spent his heavyweight career from 180-200. He weighed more than Marciano. Should Rocky have been a HH too?
@@josephshields2922 I’m speaking physically only, but that’s not the only metric that makes fighters effective in their weight class. Patterson was a great champion. The first heavyweight to regain the title (Ali was the second), which is a historical feat. I was speaking to the fact that heavyweights were becoming exceedingly larger physically and in strength at that time, which becomes an inherent disadvantage regardless of skill level. That’s why weight classes matter.
@@josephshields2922 This doesn’t mean anything should’ve changed in his career, it just illuminates why he wasn’t as effective with the bigger guys..which became more telling later. It was an era issue. Marciano would’ve faced the same issues had he fought in the next era facing guys like Sonny Liston, Big Cat Williams, Eddie Machen and Muhammad Ali.
Howard Cosell refers to Johansson as a “boy.” Come on Howard, he was 26 years old here when he fought Patterson. When you are 26, you are definitely not a boy!
@@janswart2705 Cosell was the most obnoxious annoying fight announcer ever, going off on trivial tangents about something happened 5, 10, 15 years earlier somewhere in Chicago or Las Vegas that's got nothing relevant to do with the fight at hand, "you remember Houston TX Thursday November 10th 1954, when Klauss Darbie kod Sammy Samboni in the 9th round." God Howard is annoying.
