I am a cnc and laser enthusiasts. I help with support at PwnCNC. I also help with the PwnCNC Users Group and the Carveco, Maker and Maker Plus Users Group on Facebook.
I just installed my 80mm watercooled PwnCNC spindle. I'm glad I went with watercooled because of the sound level difference. I just saw your video and it confirmed my decision.
Thanks for this, but it's not exactly a fair comparison because the air cooled was sitting on a large resonating surface, the spoil board, and free to vibrate. The water cooled was isolated up on the rigid gantry. Regardless, the air cooled is always a little more noisy.
And then the dust collector drops in (in our case a 3.5 stage 3h 240vin the same room) …what spindle/router noise?😂 Thanks for the vid! Been curious about side by side. If we upgrade to a spindle it’d most likely be for runout accuracy improvement, but then, maybe time to move to an Epilog (mainly cutting mdf). Now to listen to your wc vs ac spindle vid… 😊
Would be nice to chuck a Makita trim router in there as well to hear the real difference between a spindle and a router which most people start off with I reckon. But in the end, the dust collector will probably win that battle as you just pointed out anyway.
if the question of nice is important ? It can be replaced with the duration of work possibility one .And that is the first principal question to be consider . It is not musical instrument to play some nice music .
But is the air cooled spindle really THAT MUCH louder than the water cooled?? Im doing research on them now so I can figure out which one is best compared to my makita router. I've heard the water cooled is just a LITTLE BIT quieter that the air. Is the air cooled that bad? Thanks for any help you could give me. 👍
@@JoeLazzara consider it a quiet router since it has a fan that make it cool and the better the fan the louder it gets, once it's cutting wood it's only a few decibels higher, But it still blows the darned chips all over the place and sometimes overpowers the dust boot on 3d carves leaving a lot of trash and chips on the work piece.
@66dvert Thanks for responding!! When I posted my question I was trying to figure out which one to go with and I had decided to go with the water cooled, and I'm really happy that I did!! Since you have a spindle, you're well aware of how quiet they are lol. But now that I have that spindle, I can never go back to a router again, I really love that thing. You're completely right about what you said about the air cooled blowing the chips around, since the fan is at the bottom. I think that's why I opted for the water cooled too, plus it is quieter than the air cooled, it makes carving so much more enjoyable now lol. 😄
@@JoeLazzara thanks, I have 6 cnc's right now in the garage, from 24"x 24" to 127" x 70" for full sheet goods. Every one has a spindle that's water cooled. you are, right once you get that spindle up and running you can't ever go back to a router unless you broke everything and the store is closed for a week.
The spindle on the wood resonates louder compared to the other. both should be demonstrated on the same medium. Good presentation, however! keep the great work!
Great comparison. Thanks for posting this. Im getting a CNC machine soon and I'm a little concerned with how loud that router will be while its cutting also. Routers are loud at it is!! Thanks again.
Forget the noise: how about a router isn't designed to run as long as a spindle. The brushes and bearings WILL wear out in under a year with hobby level running. Think about it: they are designed for edge trimming around a board and done. In a CNC they run for hours on end. Get a spindle and call it a day for reliability alone.
Looks scientific enough 😁 watercooled here too .. with 5 manual routers in my shop and not wanting to deal with brushes failing let alone the noise, I went water cooled from the get go 👍 and run until 2am with the neighbors none the wiser 🤣
