"There are 500 civilians on that convoy. Women... Children..." Men's lives have little value. We take this for granted much like a century ago that blacks needed to be segregated. A society that regards those who earn a literal living to be disposable ultimately decides that everyone whose not an elite is disposable.
A doctoral candidate in math lived across the hall from me in college, and I swear he was the bastard child of Turing and Sheldon Cooper, sans the social skills. If that paints a picture. Brilliant guy. We invited him to a football game one Saturday and he had never gone to a game as an undergrad. He was like a two year old at Christmas.
Where the bullshit about British people braking the enigma code come from? Did everybody really learn history from imagination cause the Poles did it in December of 1932 in Warszawa. And then after the rising of WWII in 1939 French and British start to crack it but only with the help of Poles cause they build the decoding machine called “bomba kryptologiczna” (cryptographyc bomb) which helped decode most of the daily codes. Please learn more from reliable sources not from fairytales told by people who are most likely have knowledge of 7 year old child. And now you can begin shit show in the comments 💃🏻❤️
Frankly, with a 20 minute window, even if they got the word out help wouldnt arrive in time. I know they said planes are 10 minutes away but this is 1940s tech, communication wasnt that quick, it would have to go through multiple stations before ever reaching the pilots. And thats assuming anyone believed that they cracked enigma since at this point in the movie they hadnt reported it yet
Was there any chance the US brought this guy over during operation paperclip? Faking a death would be on par for any clandestine effort, but very curious if he was considered.
Posting notes from my passed-grandfather about this film since it's coming back into public view. He was a WW2 Cryptographer who translated & decrypted japanese communications in the pacific. His lifelong hero was Alan Turing. My grandfather was very smart, and often had trouble with personal / family relationships too. He often said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology." Papa worked for the FBI after the Korean War, and he hated the FBI his entire life for their treatment of Turing which he said was due to a closeted J.Edgar.Hoover persecuting gays. Seeing these clips makes me miss Papa, and he'd want you to know how lucky we were to have Alan Turing.
My grandfather was a cryptographer in WW2. He translated and decrypted Japanese radio transmissions. Alan Turing was his hero for his entire life and he spoke about him daily until he passed at 94 a few years ago. After WW2, my grandfather worked as an investigator in the FBI which he said was the most sexist, racist, and homophobic organization he would ever work for (these were the Hoover days). It was partly over their treatment of Turing that he left to become a labor arbitrator, and partly because he was shot-at once and my grandmother very forcefully asked him to quit. He told me stories of Turing every day. We discussed my work in computing and Ai as it related to Mr Turing often. Papa contantly lamented that Turing wasn't alive to see what his ideas had lead to. He knew he'd helped save the world, but he didn't know just how much he had chagned it. He often said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology."
My grandfather was a cryptographer in WW2. He translated and decrypted Japanese radio transmissions. Alan Turing was his hero for his entire life and he spoke about him daily until he passed at 94 a few years ago. He often told the story of how we killed Yamamoto and continued flying pointless patrols through the area and did not share the fact that we'd killed him publicly so the Japanese would not know we'd broken their code. We made them think we got lucky. He often said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology."
This is an unfortunate reality of information warfare. Once you've broken your enemy's cyphers, you must realize that it is a limited time advantage. Preserving that advantage for as long as possible is best done by allowing your enemy to win smaller victories so you can win the big ones when it really matters. And I don't need to spell out the cost of an enemy victory.
You‘ll stumble over this scene as a Ben fan or a Shaun fan and think it’s a touching movie about the brothers and Shaun‘s character dealing with his trauma. Trust me - it’s not. Instead it’s a movie full of characters being awful to each other where everything centres around a couple trying for a baby and no one gets a happy ending. If you’re looking for your bromance fix do yourself a favour and just rewatch Sherlock or Endeavour for the umpteenth time.
It is very kmportant to understand that some people simply don't clock social cues. It's not an insult, they just havn't learned it. Once you inderstand that about someone, interaction becomes much easier.
For the greater good... It takes a good person to make that decision, and a great person to feel remorse for doing so. For all his contributions and sacrifices, society couldn't just accepted him for who he is. What a shame...
So...as an ordinary electrician, that works with plumbers, gas engineers, plasterers, roofers and scaffolders etc...we hardly ever get praise or a thank you...but we keep on doing what we do best to keep our world safe...this dude gave us that privilege..🙏👌😎
I hated the story! Being infertile isn’t a crime. Some people live healthy life yet they have infertility problem. People normally want children - that is understandable but why CHEATING to get that??? There was option for adoption but nah! She hurt his feelings, got pregnant with other guy's child and acted as if she had done something great!Absolutely ridiculous! She mentally crippled her husband for the rest of his life. There is no recovering from this and this is never okay. That's just pure humiliation...... "Oh! You can't be a father! So be grateful that I f*cked other man to give you a child!" Please have some sympathy, lady. You could be the infertile one and how would you feel if your husband did the same thing? Her husband accepted because he loved her very much but she shows no remorse for what she has done. The guy had family problems. Almost everyone has it - more or less. If you can't adjust, then you can always leave and start anew!
This movie is so inaccurate, Alan Turing was actually known for being super social and charismatic, always the life of the party as they say. he was not autistic or socially awkward at all, like they make him out to be in the movie. Also around 3000 people worked on the ultra project not just a couple dozen like they make it out in the movie and Alan touring was the final step in a million steps done before him. Also fun fact Alan Turing was fairly openly gay throughout this time made before. He would openly flirt with men and take male dates to parties and formal events, which is crazy given the time period.
Technically there is enough energy in any piece of matter this size to cause this size explosion, but you'd need to convert it to 100% pure energy. A human body converted into pure energy is 1504 megaton of TNT. The Tsar Bomb was 50 Megatons.....
The scary thing about the enigma is that, even with modern computer knowledge, it’s still not an easy machine to crack. The deep understanding that was needed for them to reverse engineer a solution to the enigma is astounding. It’s a shame what happened to Mr Turing
Wouldn’t he be expected to pass This to his superiors, and they would make the decisions about how the cracked code is applied? Why would where and when the cracked code is used be determined by codebreakers with next to no insight into the military needs of the war?
I was curious to know what efforts the Germans had done to crack British codes. The German naval forces were able to read where all the merchants ships were going to be. That's why the losses were so immense at the beginning. Luckily, the German codebreakers worked in their own silos and was not a cohesive effort as the British effort was.
These situations are always hard. But if you just imagine they didn't break Enigma at that moment, that convoy was going to be destroyed anyway. So Alan was right, even if it was a difficult decision.
Will all the twits in the comments who are whinging and moaning about this not being historically accurate please remember the difference between a movie and a documentary. And remember the reasons why a movie can’t just tell the history as it is.
