Pretty sure I wasn’t recording in 4K at the time and was on an older iPhone therefore the majority of my older videos aren’t as good as they could have been.
Awsome stuff. Hope you’re enjoying your set. I’ve only fitted mine with regular decoders for now. Whether I’ll sound fit them though, only time will tell.
@@fyfieldjunction can we see a video of your whole collection of class 37’s? I’ve got a fair few myself although I don’t have a layout for them. Currently my accurascale 37405 sits above them all
What an awesome train pack!! I love the bachmann class 37s, but I think the accurascale 37 is better value and maybe slightly better quality? Great video mate :)😊
Thanks for watching bud. Accurascale definitely are the king of 37s in my opinion and I suppose of models in general if a dare say it. Always offering amazing models at great value.
Saved me money too. thats shocking. bad instructions, bad motor, even there intro video for the class is bad, it nearly falls of the track! Accurascale need to do one!
Definitely disappointing and terrible value. Lucky the problem ended up being about as simple as it could have been to which I documented and explained in an update video of the model.
I thought your video was really good, i bought the trainbow version of this and like it, i had a feeling it wouldn't be able to take the extra coaches, If you look back in the history of Hornby Remember the HST set where they put the motor in one of the power cars, well same problem add the extra coaches well its got no chance, Personally i have no idea why hornby brought out extra coaches pack for a train that can't take them, and to be honest for the price they can keep them, Overall after doing my own test nice train but a bit overpriced, Maybe hornby should have a chat with kato and see the N gauge version and that can pull far more,
Thanks for watching mate. The model definitely isn’t anywhere near as good as it should be for the money. The extra coach pack is required to make it a realistic length train. The 5 car set on its own wouldn’t be prototypical. A shame that out of the box the model wasn’t useable but luckily the fix was as simple as anything which is all documented in the update video of the model.
Hi, very good honest review of a very nice loco, my Hatton’s class 66 had its issues but they are all sorted, it’s works very well and is a smooth runner, the sound from the EM2 speaker is phenomenal in my opinion compared to any thing I’ve heard before, the Legomanbiffo sound file is so good 80% of my locomotives have his sounds fitted, the revised Accurascale class 66 is what the Hatton’s model could have been but was let down buy the manufacturing process that were not addressed and poor quality control, the Accurascale engineered the EM2 speaker out of their model to fit a lesser speaker to keep cost down I suspect, I not in the market for their model and would rather have another Hatton’s model because of the sound, for those modellers who have never owned a Hatton’s model with Legomanbiffo sound and the far superior speaker will miss the amazing sound in my opinion, maybe if Accurascale do a second run with the capacity to fit an EM2 I would buy one until then I will wait for Bachmann to upgrade their old but bulletproof class 66, thanks for sharing.
It is great to finally see the hattons tooling what it should have been to start with. Still very happy with my two hattons examples. Thanks for watching 👍
If the lights are flicking it can be a variety of things. Power setting could be too low, dirty wheels or track or sometimes it’s just how the model reacts to the controller your using as there’s such a variety out there and they perform differently just like how different locos perform differently. In this case though the flickering lights was just the way the camera picks them up. In person they weren’t flickering and were nice and stable.
The TTS decoders definitely aren’t the best but for the money were decent value. I’ll look into trying some different speakers with the new Bluetooth decoders at some point as they are excellent.
I admit the ratings were a bit generous however, I did take into consideration that when the model did run originally without the coaches it ran very well.
The basic problem with the IET is that the powered car is in the wrong place. Logic says that if its 5/9 cars the powered car goes in the centre coach so that its pulling / pushing the same amount of load. Bachmann with its voyagers / desiro & 3 ar 158/166./170. The lack of traction tyres is another issue. Conteneental HO models cost far more than 00, yet their models come with traction tyres usualy 1 on a wheel of each bogie & it makes for better / smoother running models. But Roco / Marklin have their models made in factories they own on in mainland europe, Hornby are basically a R&D unit, the models are made by 3 rd party companies in China in various factories, Hornby having very little control, the models arrive at the docks, taken to Margate to the warehouse , & then sent out. How heavy are the coaches? Problem with so much of todays new models is that the carrriages / wagons are far to heavy, the cheap die cast metal chassis that the powered cars are made of is cheap grade metal thats not dense enough, then theres the poor quality metal used for the wheels. Theres a reason Chinese metal / steel is cheap. Oiling the wheels is not the answer, the oil drips onto your track , couple that with dust & that causes the build up of dirt on the rails. Then theres the issue of how plastic reacts with the oil & can corrode it over the years. the best thing to look at is if the bogies axle boxes can be fitted with brass top hat bearings , but then you find with the cheap grade metal axles the pin point end starts to wear away because the brass is a harder metal than the steel that the wheels are made of. What you've got there is garden shed engineering, common problem with 00 of nice looking gear that lacks the real attention to detail of how it all works / functions because the specifiers are bedazzled by the fine details / tech the 3rd party vendors can offer. That said take a look at Mehanos hi speed train models of the ICE3 / TGV duplex , cheaper models but far better thought out , the TGV power car has the can motor located in the well between the bogies so it lowers the centre of gravity, drive shafts nyon straight into the bogies & no big clumsy gearboxes , the power weighs next to the nothing yet easily shifts 8 coaches & a light as feather rear dummy power car. It does make you wonder who Hornby employ when designing models & wether they every buy other companies models & see how they do things.
I made an update video on the model in which I explained the issue with the model and it was very much a simple one. Lack of lubrication on the coach axles causing too much drag.
Maybe Hornby should have looked back at the original 1980s APT for insperation (I have one still works well). The power car is in the middle with traction tyres. If it aint broke.........
They were a limited edition run exclusive to kernow model rail centre several years ago now. Unfortunately if you want any they are very rare and when they do come up online somewhere, people will be charging top dollar.
Would you kindly send me the hobby shop you deal with that sells Hornby no one is selling it in Canada and I'd like to order Hornby trains. An address and phone number or email would be lovely to have. Thank you
I purchased this from Hornby directly but if you’re interested in a shop to purchase from I’d recommend checking out Rails of Sheffield. www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjL0eTTttaGAxXZiVAGHQX6CYAYABAAGgJkZw&ae=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwjqWzBhAqEiwAQmtgT92hiQtpysA_7QfixJdrvtc8QX_UYoUqmv94buh2Qi6P_lXkPgqUVhoCwbwQAvD_BwE&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESV-D2BFPmHk8kdkK6WLxxw0mhZ6XP-fxg9jUXLLgr8QtYR8j13XDqxkIJRauFGjzf3ljxss58YGc_IBXc8WQ__iuJoiBdg9tcV0VkrlXtzJS7HLEC3w3VUA&sig=AOD64_07kP9RUmkBpcUU-s8gkqJcTiY-JQ&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwjOp97TttaGAxX5UkEAHQnDCLwQ0Qx6BAgNEAE
Having also had the same issue with mine, I emailed Hornby who suggested to lubricant the wheels. Glad to see it has worked on yours, I’ll probably also add the extra weight like you have as well as I feel the rear bogie on the driving car needs a bit more weight over it. I’ll be testing mine in a few days. I feel it’s very poor of Hornby not to have checked this.
Nice pack although I have recently moved over to O Gauge this month and I am moving away from OO and HO gauge as I am fed up with pool quality and the hatred/infighting with some parts of the model railway community. I will get one from Heljan if they do an O gauge model of this when I get Coconut Road built.
Well done for getting it to a state of being useable, but will still give it a miss, we need accurascale or dapol to start making a lot more modern stuff, leave the old steam stuff and class 47's etc to hornby and bachmann, and get on with making good quality stuff that is upto date and reasonably priced too, there is so much to choose from and yet nobody is doing it.
Fair point my friend. There is a massive gap in the modern traction market especially where multiple units are concerned. Hopefully we will see some of those gaps filled soon.
No they don’t. Not really sure how to describe the axle/bearing set up on these big essentially the axles themselves sit directly on the bogie chassis.
I'm amazed they didn't lubricate the coaches- most Hornby stuff arrives lathered in lubricant and caked in grease. On another note, the wheels on my Hornby class 800 IET power car got dirty. I made the mistake of taking the bogie frames off to clean them. Turns out, the pickups are fixed to the bogie frame, and these are connected to the wires that take the power to the circuit board. This turned what should have been a 5min job into an hour of swearing and fiddling around. Still- at least the solder on the wires didn't break. That said, I know Hornby gets a lot of stick, but the IET is an amazing model. The only let down is the plastic pantograph.
These can be a bit of a pain to fix sometimes when doing repairs like you described. I’ve had to replace the entire bogie on one of mine in the past which I did I video on. Was easier than expected but still not great. The model itself is good I agree but definitely has room for improvement.
Good update on your class 802, I’m sure those whom love a Hornby and believe they can do no wrong this is a classic example of where they are, they clearly don’t have a QA department over in China or over here, they do have a tendency of abandoning customers once they get their money, no oil and the wrong oil in models is standard with them, you shouldn’t have to do the investigation especially when you’ve spent to money you did on it in the first place, if Accurascale produced this model then those issues wouldn’t be loaded on the customer because they wouldn’t be there in my opinion, I guess it’s your choice to spend that kind of money on products that aren’t fit for purpose, their products are underdeveloped because they cut too many corners so their profit margins are maintained, modellers will totally lose faith in Hornby if they don’t wake up and stop doing things like this, thanks for sharing.
Not defending Hornby but AS are not perfect, take your rose tinted glasses off, bar the 37 (which has had its fair share of motor and bogie issues) all my AS products have had something wrong with them.
I agree. As good as accurascale are they still aren’t perfect. I’ve had no issues with the few locos of theirs I currently have but I have seen many cases of people having major problems with their products. No one is perfect at the end of the day.
Hornby do need to up their game. They do produce some excellent models however, they also produce some right tat. Purchasing this model was always a no brainer for me as it’s perfect for my era and region but I obviously shouldn’t have needed to do the work I did.
I had the Azuma set, and I had to send it back, as it was derailing all the time, watching your video the coach drag could of been what was wrong with it
The derailing problem was a separate issue that some of the earlier releases had I believe. Think it was down to the couplings not moving correctly. It’s not something I’ve ever suffered from but have seen others having to deal with it.
Just got an email announcing this set, but when I saw the pictures and the price I thought: you must be f…ing kidding me!!! The details look like from a toy train, and no decoder or sound for this kind of money is a joke. And the loco not being able to pull the full consist? Wow, I don’t know who engineers this crap, but they probably found their diploma in a Cracker Jack box. After my last experience with Hornby products (total junk), I will not send another penny to them. Can’t wait to watch Sam’s review… 1:10
The price for these is indeed an absolute joke, especially for a model that doesn’t work correctly out of the box. I’ve just released an update on the model and it’s now working fine but obviously shouldn’t need to do any work to a brand new model.
@@fyfieldjunction When one considers that I paid $834 for a 8-car Marklin DB ICE 4 that has sound, multiple light functions, operating pantographs (up & down) and runs like a charm, I think Hornby is really screwing their customers over...
This was only a temporary sound fitting as I was loaning the decoder to the mate who owns the model. I’ve since got it back. I agree the engine sounds would be more realistic coming from the intermediate coaches but then other sounds like the horns would sound odd not coming from the front. It’s trying to get the best of both worlds really. At some point in the future if I can I’ll look at upgrading some of my own IETs so that the sound comes from the middle coaches.
It’s a 9 car set so it wasn’t going to be a short review. I know I didn’t look at all 9 coaches however that obviously wasn’t necessary as many of them are practically the same. I appreciate not everyone likes long reviews.
Lubricating the axels made a massive difference on mine. It hauls the full rake but sometimes struggles to pull away. Ill be interested to see yours after you add weight to the power car aswell
I’ll be doing an update soon. I’ve lubricated all the axles on all the coaches and added a bit of weight to the motor unit and needless to say she’s now almost perfect.
May be worth trying a back-to-back wheel gauge, which checks the spacing between drivung wheels. It allows you to push them together to make sure they are running true
