damn the dude in red is Panda, hella fresh and could smoke most you people talking shit in one round. I was there and this battle was one of the first major ones I've ever been/seen. You cats got no respect and half the shit you say don't matter because you don't know these cats. no respect
they are entirely different crew. cay just has bboy the end, So, and still who are also members of gamblerz. gambler was the old gamblerz till bboy music left. its remade by him and darkness w/ some old gambler members and new ones. gamblerz is the one we know today led by sick