The thing about perma camping is that those guys spend so much time ganking one lane, they forget that other exist. Played a Jax game today, was against Shen, I don't know who counters who or is it a skilled matchup but damn. Enemy Graves came to gank me 5 times. Successfully killed me only 2 times and on one attempt he spent like a minute, while Shen tried to bait me (I checked the game later, so they literally wasted a whole minute trying to kill me) and shen ended up dying and even if I was 1/2/0 he was 0/0/2, I was up in cs a little bit and was more useful. Junglers are weird