i own a 2012 meile, it cleans 10 year old dirty underwear more sparkling white than a brand new unopened box of underwear!!!!!❤❤❤❤ its INSANE!!! 10 year old cleaner than brand new!!! the colors of all clothes is so brite, like flourescent!! INSANE!! the spin speed is faster than a car wheel you see when driving on the autobahn!!!
Sorry to hear your Miele dryer has failed after 7 years. I’ve had my Miele T8627WP heat pump dryer (6kg capacity) since 2009 so you weren’t quite an “early adopter” with this one in 2016. I recently had the carbon brushes replaced and it works perfectly and much quieter again. I’ve also recently bought a new Miele TWL780WP heat pump dryer as we use the dryer a lot (despite living in Australia). The new dryer is larger (9kg), uses even less energy and is generally quieter except for the first 20 minutes when it makes an irritating vibration noise. However, I am disappointed with the limited reverse tumble (compared to the equal forward/reverse of the old model) - sheets still twist up on the Bedding program and also many items (eg. cords on hoodies) get caught and damaged due to the design of the plastic vent over the filters. I chose Miele again because they have been quite reliable and their dryers seem to be considerably faster than any other brands. I previously had an Asko T784HP as a second dryer. That worked very well and was relatively quiet but it only tumbles in 1 direction and takes longer to dry. I gave it to my mother and she’s very happy with it. I had considered Bosch (generally only tumble in 1 direction) and AEG/Electrolux but I was concerned about the lack of a fine filter in front of the condenser so I hope you have better luck and I will be interested to hear how it goes.
Very interesting that the miele is no without its problems. I am currently looking for an Electrolux / AEG steam washer-drier combo, lot of people love them and they have functions that appealing to me.
Stop institution because if you cut the plug off you will lose your 10 year garantie you need to get a electrician in to put a socket in so you can plug it in
@@sabistar44 13 dH. But the descaler takes care of that. So I guess the water quality doesn’t influence the wash result. I‘d suggest you also give it a try. Does your Miele also have an „extra silent“ washcycle? I tried it yesterday and it’s really barely audible. Miele says it’s only 39 dBA.
This washing machine is £3k with a 2 years warranty are they having a laugh. it was replaced from your 2016 one how much was that and the warranty? How was the replacement process like
Thanks for another very helpful video. Miele just gave us a teaser for their upcoming “Nova” edition washers and dryers that will probably be announced at IFA Berlin in September 2024. The emphasis is on improved fabric care and user diagnosis tools Here’s a link, but there is not a lot of detail… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3wdfR2jy-Ug.htmlsi=j4SS6q_aUkX025LR
It was a very bad move to get rid of such a dryer. Over time, using a much louder AEG and AEG drying at higher temperatures, you will do this and miss the Miele dryer. I had Bosch home proffesional, Elektrolux top models and AEG dryers, none of them compare to Miele. AEG and Elektrolux were the most vocal about this. When drying, there is more lint on the strainer than in Miele. The AEG dryer quickly pollutes the heat exchanger because it has too much air flow, so a lot of fluff flies through and settles on the heat exchanger, which then needs to be cleaned from time to time. There is an additional sponge cover in the ground. The drum in the AEG is square at the front and back, not rounded, which causes greater wear of the dried laundry. Drying temperatures are higher. Moreover, the plastic back of the dryer vibrates and rumbles during drying. As for the ticking noise in Miele - these are carbon brushes that run on the drum and connect the humidity sensor installed in the drum. This is old, unchanged technology from Miele, but quite durable. However, if the dryer starts to click loudly, it is a sign that the brushes are simply worn out and they only need to be replaced with new ones, which is very simple. I haven't noticed any problems with drying in Miele, and if it was too low, there are 7 levels to choose from, not 3 like in AEG. I think that after some time you will go back to the Miele dryer, but you have to make this decision yourself and experience for yourself what you lost by buying AEG.
Could you find out, not on the basis of your guesses, but on the basis of confirmed information, what does weighing the laundry provide? Is this just an indication of how much laundry enters the drum during loading and how much detergent should be dosed, or does the washing machine estimate twinDos or the amount of water on this basis...?
Are you really pouring liquid into an open drawer and spilling it all over it...? Come on, buy yourself a drawer for liquid detergent - it works perfectly, you pour it in and close the drawer, and the liquid is then rinsed out by the water consumed by the washing machine. www.miele.pl/product/11221580/mozliwosc-stosowania-plynnych-srodkow-pioracych-efw-100
Learn one thing about TwinDos instead of complaining and criticizing how crappy it is! Miele does not recommend using detergents other than its own, i.e. filling reusable bottles into the trash! Other detergents are thick, have different compositions, behave differently and remain in the pipes for a long time, and they usually cause damage to TwinDos. Additionally, Twindos should be cleaned periodically (up to several months) using a Miele cleaning agent to prevent clogging and leakage. And if someone does not want to use Miele detergents, then do not buy a washing machine with TwinDos, but a regular washing machine from another brand, or use liquids and powders for washing, using the upper drawer and turning off TwonDos. There are also Miele washing machines without the TwinDos system and you can buy one instead of whining and complaining that TwinDos is faulty, because it is most often the user's fault.
@@sabistar44 I meant the other critics in the comments, not you. People don't use the recommended detergents, then they complain that twinDos is damaged and they criticize the entire Miele brand.
@@dariuszd1 have not encountered leaks in 2 years usage. I use the washing machine 3/5 times a day. You can put any detergent in and be sure no corrosion will occur. So it is more versatile. It's on the upper side of the washing machine, it is the detergent tray essentially. You can also switch the softener to detergent and have double liquid detergente or 2 softeners or Disinfectants etc. you don't have to clean it almost ever if you use the same type of detergent. Only when you change the detergent. Also softeners you can just pour them in the second Idos without having to wash the entire tray it doesn't have any problems with the different consistency of a different brand of softener It saves money due to the fact that you can buy oxygen bleach for colored garments and directly put powdered or liquid in the drum and you can use the stains features and a pre soaking feature that is 1 hour pre soak and then it drains that water. And it is easy to refill. These are a few that come to mind. I thought about getting Miele but Bosch just doesn't have any random noise that happens after a certain point with the machine, the drum is incredibly quiet and gradually increased spin speed and most of the time it never bounced around even in imbalanced loads. But I am talking about series 8 so the newest one. Don't know about the old ones.
Congratulations on a great washing machine! I recently bought a WWR860 WPS washing machine and a TWR780WP Eco&Steam dryer. These are not Passion models, but with a washing machine I don't need a hot water connection, and with a dryer there are almost no differences, and Passion models are much more expensive. Both the washer and dryer are amazing and I love them! The power wash in the washing machine is amazing, the way it washes and how complicated the washing programs and drum movements are. The dryer has a compressor (few on the market) smoothly controlled by an inverter, it is the quietest of all the dryers I have had (Elektrolux, AEG, Bosch top models) and the washing machine is also the quietest. The dryer creases less, dries the laundry faster than the AEG, and the fragrance capsules make it smell nice when you take it out. The washing machine removes every stain that no detergents or previous washing machines could previously remove and uses very little water. Both devices communicate with each other, the dryer knows what has been washed and immediately suggests an appropriate program. Moreover, the equipment looks beautiful. You must buy a dryer from this series for your washing machine, DryCare40, the temperature during the entire drying process does not exceed 40 degrees Celsius until the end. No other dryer on the market has such a low temperature for delicate fabrics. Moreover, then the devices will communicate with each other, not to mention the difference in design between Miele and AEG - the differences are huge in the work culture, gentleness of drying, and the workmanship of the device. ps. Please describe your water hardness and the amount of phase 1 and phase 2 (ml) you have set? I have 240ppm and I reduced it from 58ml to 48ml and from 45ml to 36ml for phase 2. Therefore, because at higher values there was still foam during the last rinse.
Have it repaired. It will save you money. Our Bosch gear was unreliable and its rusted. We bought the Miele gear at the same time - it looks new and has been faultless. The Bosch has had 4 service calls. Probably as expensive as one of the machines cost. All the washer exposed screws are corroded too. There are chips in its paintwork - due to the repair person accessing the dryer, which sits on top. Below the Bosch (top model made in Germany Logixx 8) the machine is rusting. I have dealt with machinery for decades, and motherboards do fail. It is somewhat random. But the chances are by replacing yours, the machine will go on for a decade or more from the age of your machine. Another brand won't.
Thank you for the review! Funny seeing other washing/drying aficionados/weirdos. May I suggest adding the reference number (TR95A3B6BW and AEG series 9000) in the description so it shows easily while searching the web? I've been looking for a new tumble dryer for a while now as I bought a POS Beko (NEVER AGAIN) for 500 euros that has many programs but they all run at the same speed and heat: fast & furious and none is actually different lol. AEG grabbed my eye compared to ALL others including Miele, Asko, Bosch, Whirlpool, Samsung (Samsung is lowest tier I would do). AEG nicely shows in official videos how their dryers uniquely work with features like the one you've shown. Unfortunately, Miele does not. Could you please advise if your previous Miele dryer spun like this? Or is it unique to AEG? I've been looking at the new Bosch series 8 (2024) with alternate rotation but your video convinced me to buy this dryer! I can't find any videos that it actually uses centrifugal energy to keep wools stuck to the walls like AEG. I'm based in Paris, France so I bought the French version; reference: TR95A3B6BW. There's a local website having a sale on this model right now for 754 euros (638GBP). I call it a steal! Can't believe I paid almost the same amount for the Beko.... I'll try to sell it for cheap or give it to the poor 😁. Cheers!
Mine is heat pump Miele - cost half a kidney and it’s the worst product ever. It will barely do one load, constantly beeping clean the damn filter, bought it for its ‘quite’ element. It sounds like a steam train. Had the guy out he said he would have to change the whole drum - never came back. Note to self : I’ll never buy a Miele anything ever again and I’ve been a long time customer. But this is a bad product.
We’ve had Miele washing machines in our family since 1965. Always brilliant. But the last one I had was dreadful. Such a waste of money. Noisy pump. Poor rinsing. Very noisy when spinning. It was perfectly levelled and would literally slip on the floor. Never had this happen before. Worst of all regardless of what I did it stunk!! I love Miele but wouldn’t buy another washing machine. The Bosch I have now is far superior and much cheaper. I suspect it won’t last as long and hasn’t got the build quality. But it is a much better machine. Thank you for a great review
Bosch is significantly more reliable at 2.5% failure rate compared to Miele at 8.5% according to US retailer and service agents Yale Appliance (they have a RU-vid channel). Both brands are better than the industry average.
@@Cliodhna-z1i I know Bosch are more reliable than Miele, but what is your justification for saying they are better at “washing items”? I always understood this to be Miele’s strong point. Retailers like Yale Appliance always advocate Miele as having better wash performance compared to Bosch and other brands that they sell.
@@michaeljemery Bosch have a gazillion of features and functions and things you can adjust in the newest models. It has with the app probably around 40 programmes and 20 individual customisations at max for a load. The washing times are insanely high as well. I've never had to think about a degree specifically or pre treatment nor adding active oxygen bleach for any type of stain as long as I select a puzzle of features for it to remove them lol. Also I've tested the temperature consistency... Every programme even the hygiene programme maintain a temperature above the selected degree +3 more above do it would be a 43, 53, 63,93 etc ... I also know they do everything in alignment with what Miele does it terms of hygiene from the same university given that I have bought studies ranging from 2010-2019 in which they both together with Electrolux fund studies for hygiene and aob treatments. So maybe this attention to detail which can be more assured given the lower cost and the possibility to experiment. I had a phone call some of the retailers in various parts of Europe and they all explained that Bosch cater to different populations and preferences... But I really want to test a Miele but I just caaaaaaaant which is unfortunate.... :(
I bout a Miele W1 Excellence over 1 year ago and am very happy with it so far. It's never let us down. Perhaps you got a lemon. While it is regrettable, I wouldn't judge a whole company by a single instance of a single product. Did you contact customer service and try to get it repaired under warranty etc?
Like you I’m very fussy. I agree a machine of this caliber should have no unusual noises. “The Miele tick” hmm it seems that they all do this. Spin, well yes I’ve gotten used to listening to the increasing sound of a good spin. But half the time it doesn’t like a little unbalanced load. So I have to spin it again. So grateful for your review. I watched your first review on this machine. ( Thank you ) I still love it and all the things it will do. Compared with other brands of the same level, Miele is still by far the best machine. Yes I would buy another. Hopefully this will last the 20 years as indicated.
Great review! Back in January, I bought my WCR870 WPS with a huge bundle with TwinDos inclusive at a great deal at a Miele Experience Center. Expensive yes, but definitely worth it in the long way, in my opinion. Greetings from Denmark! I am also a happy owner of a G7415XXL and Triflex HX2 (Cat & Dog)
Hey sabistar! Here's some information I found for the ticking sound. I plan on doing this on my machine later this year when the paltry, 1-year warranty for US based Miele machines expires. If you search this issue on RU-vid there are some walkthrough videos as well. 1. Lift the machine's plastic lid. Start by removing the two small plastic screw covers on the left and right sides of the lid near the front of the machine. They are flush and I used blue tac to 'suck' them out. I guess you could pry them open but you'll mark the plastic and potentially void the warranty. Unscrew the screws - but not all the way. When the screws are about 60% loose, push them back in together and the lid will release. The lid lifts upwards like a car's hood. 2. Locate the upper spring connection points at the rear of the drum and lubricate them generously. There is one on each side of the drum. You can easily see the right side when you look down, the left side spring is partially covered by the water inlet and control box. At the point where the spring connects with the drum hook you'll see a plastic sleeve/cuff between the hook and the drum. Lubricate the point where they touch. I sprayed several times before the noise disappeared. Only the upper spring connectors make the noise, there is no need to get under the drum. Also, only the rear spring connectors need lubrication, the front connections don't cause the noise. 3. Clean up overspray and replace the lid. I think I may have heard the noise once more after lubricating and then never again. My guess is that the lubricant may take some time to properly infiltrate the point of friction.
The answer is no they're absolute rubbish. Ever since they brought in TwinDos they've gone downhill as the system is very unreliable. Build is about the same but all this technology is making their machines more likely to break faster
@@tprods2087 No, the twin dos is made in Germany. The only machine made in Poland is the 7kg machine. It has concrete stabilisers, but unlike other brands concrete, its encased in the soap container/shroud with a composite ie fibre glued material.That machine also does not have an induction electric motor, and it lacks an enamel front. But it does wash very well. The dryers are I think all made in the Czech Republic. Have been for maybe 7 or more years.
I have the WEG365 and overall i am happy with it but spinning is a big issue. My old W2652 would spin everything regardless of balance at full speed in exactly 8 minutes. I watch the WEG365 and it can balance the load perfectly on distribution but then stop to re-distribute and then it is always out of balance and takes forever to spin. Sometimes it has said 2 minutes left but stuck like that for 10 minutes still trying to spin. Absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn’t buy another now unless things improve drastically. Even the drum springs on y make a tinny noise when attempting to spin.
I recently purchased my first Miele W/D based on your videos and other online reviews. I was worried about buying a compact because they're not very common here in the States and I was worried it would be too small for my needs. Long story short, capacity isn't the issue- but everything else is! I've not had much luck with the TwinDos system. When she was first delivered, I followed the dosing instructions for soft water (3 tablespoons) and that was WAAAAAAAY too much. I'm now at 1½ tsps./1 tsp for Phase I and Phase 2 respectively, and some loads either finish without any scent of detergent on the clothes (without any suds in the rinse cycle) or there are tons of suds in the rinse cycle, like this morning, when I threw two pairs of jeans in. It's driving me crazy! I have five index cards full of notes stating dosages I've done for each load previously, but it shouldn't be this hard, especially not for how much I paid. I bought the top-of-the-line WXR860 and expected it to be effortless. Boy, was I wrong! There isn't any sudsing when I manually add powdered detergent, negating the purpose of the TwinDos, which was one of the reasons I bought this model to begin with. And don't get me started on the machine's options not matching what's in the manual and/or QuickStart Guide. US models also don't have a load indicator, even though the QuickStart Guide says it does, we don't have the EcoFeedback feature, even though the manual says it does. There are other issues, but I'll stop here. I really want to love her, but I'm at the point where I regret this decision and miss my old top loader.
Hey man, I bought the same model as you did back in July 2023, and I have artificially softened water. Here are my observations and tips for using TwinDos effectively: When you have naturally soft or especially artificially softened water, you need much less detergent for the same effectiveness. For softened water (0 hardness when tested), start with 50% of the recommended dosage. For TwinDos, that's 24/13 ml for Ultraphase 1 and 2, respectively. After several trials, I found that 17/9 ml works perfectly for me (or 11/9 ml when refilling the Ultraphase 1 container with Root and Splendor detergent and Ultraphase 2 with any chlorine free (peroxide) bleach). To gauge your dosing, base your results on how the clothes feel after the cycle completes. If you submerge an article of clothing in water post-wash, does it suds? Do the clothes feel slippery (too much soap) or have lingers odors and stains (too little)? Do not base it on the lingering detergent scent. *Some observations:* - Avoid using TwinDos for very small loads (e.g., two pairs of jeans). TwinDos tends to overdose very small loads, so manual dosing is better for these. - Ultraphase 2 is a peroxide-based bleach. When it reacts, it bubbles up and looks like a lot of suds, but it rinses clean if the dosage is correct. I hope this helps you dial in your TwinDos settings so you can enjoy your washer!
Hey, thanks@@latui7350. I'm currently at 7 mL/5mL for Phase I and Phase 2 respectively, because, like you, I have very soft water. I often suspect it's not enough detergent for larger loads, but too much for smaller loads, as evidenced by suds (not bubbles) in the rinse cycle, making me unsure what the right amount should be. I thought the benefit of the machine was that it could weigh the load and properly dose the detergent, but that doesn't seem to be the case for smaller loads. I can't tell you how many times I had to manually rinse my clothes after a cycle because the machine couldn't rinse all the suds out. I've also used more fabric softener than I care to admit when I don't have time to manually rinse, which is something I've never needed to do before. I'll dial up the TwinDos for normal loads while manually dosing for smaller loads to see if that has any effect. Thanks, man.
Thank you for your honesty in telling us the issues with the detergent system. I suggest you use 1/2 tablespoon of powdered Tide detergent. No fabric softener. One lady in another youtube video on front loaders said that she has only ever used 1 tablespoon of powdered detergent along with a tablespoon of Ox-Clean when the load needed extra stain fighting help. Warm or hot water always. She never used liquids because she found they left residue. Take out the cartridges, flush out the system and stick to powdered detergent. Add an extra rinse, always.
Thanks@@latui7350. I thought I responded, so my apologies for just getting back to you now. Thank you for your observations. One of my lingering frustrations with this machine is that it doesn't autodose small loads correctly (like you said), which I find ironic, since the entire point of the TwinDos system is to perfectly dose each load. They never caveated that with "except for small loads." Many cycles, according to the manual, like jeans, delicates, handwash, dress shirts, darks, wool, silks and a few others, are specifically designed for small loads, so I'm not sure why the TwinDos system can't correctly determine how much detergent to dispense. We can put a man on the moon, but a Miele washer can't accurately weigh and dose small loads? Had I known then what I know now, I don't think I would have bought the machine. With the exception of coloreds (because coloreds are a full size load for me- and I'm still fiddling with the dosage on that), I manually dose everything now, and even that is trial and error. God forbid I add an extra grain of powdered detergent; it's unforgiving with the suds!
Hey @@apAvocado, I only use the cartridges for coloreds at this point, everything else is manually dosed with a powdered detergent. The tricky thing is that the amount I need to use depends on the size of the load, so I have to keep a list next to my machine, so I don't add too much or too little. If I accidentally add too much detergent, I find that the rinses (even an extra rinse) don't do a good job of removing the suds. This is my first front loader, and I'm finding it to be more trouble than it's worth at this point. I never had this issue with my old top loader. Granted it was terribly water inefficient, using ~40 gallons of water per full size load, but I never had to titrate detergent, add extra rinses, or wonder if I added too much or too little detergent. I'd give my left arm to get that machine back.
My old Miele set has been sold. W1 washer 870 with twin dos leaking and sometimes it didn't make the final spin. The T1 dryer had a terrible tickling noise for the price paid. Miele assistant said it was normal due to a metallic sensor. Sold them both. Now I have much cheaper Beko (washer and heat pump dryer) and I'm satisfied. Just waiting my Miele dishwasher breaks down and then I'll be done with them. No more Miele appliances for me.
My previous Miele was 6yrs old, unfortunately the TwinDos leaked, corroding the base plate. Miele condemned the machine and gave me a replacement free of charge. If it wasn’t for the TwinDos leaking, it would still be going, there wasn’t anything wrong with it. They replaced my machine with the WER865WPS, I don’t use the TwinDos in case it leaks again. Been happy with the replacement so far. Have an Miele dryer and it’s developed the annoying ticking sound. Other than the ticking noise it’s a good sturdy machine. The washer has a ticking noise, turned out it wasn’t perfectly balanced. It was coming from the back right hand side of the machine. I raised the back right foot a bit and it’s since stopped
@@MercSLRFan I had a feeling that was the case, though it didn’t have it when I first got the machine. Works dryer is an 8yr old condenser dryer which has that ticking sound, but you can only hear it when your ear is pressed up against the dryer. At what point do the brushes get changed?
People commenting on the ticking sound on a T1. Mine has done that since it was new. It’s an ok drier but not as good as the old vented Miele 20 years old and still working fine. The last Miele washing machine I had was poor. Thanks for sharing the video. Much appreciated
Intresting! Im not really that big fan of miele because of their price but yeah twindos might be an issues as i saw some videos like twindos leaking at the bottom of the machine and that stuff but overall it is good for removing untreated stains
Great review as always. I have the W1 9kg Twin Dos version. The ticking noise you mention, I experience too - sometimes even when the drum is rotating in wash mode. Miele engineer advised it’s normal part of the suspension system ( didn’t have this on my older Miele which I still have now 16 years old working perfectly. Hope I don’t experience dryer problems as purchased recently the Miele T1 8kg Eco/ green energy dryer- so far happy with it but has an annoying tick-tick sound as drum rotates. Had Engineer out to it, advised normal based on new drum design and how the carbon brushes run over drum to activate the sensor dry - didn’t have this same issue on my old Miele T294C dryer. Wish Miele would look at this design issue for future new T1 dryers. Overall happy with the machines. Great build qualify, reliable and do a great job.
Since 2024, Miele has launched a number of tumble dryer models with one carbon brush at the back of the drum and a metal strip (residual moisture sensor) near the fluff filter, so no more two (hard) clicking carbon brushes on top of the drum: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I7lapVxa3po.html 125 Edition TCC660WP 11/2023 125 Edition TCC670WP 12/2023 125 Edition TEC665WP 12/2023 125 Edition TEC675WP 12/2023 125 Edition TSC663WP 12/2023 125 Edition TWC660WP 12/2023 Excellence TEC665WP 12/2023 Excellence TEC675WP 12/2023 Selection TSC663WP 12/2023 TCA 220 WP 12/2023 AU TCC 660 WP 11/2023 TCC 670 WP 12/2023 TEC 665 WP 12/2023 TEC 675 WP 12/2023 TSC 663 WP 12/2023 TWA 229 WP 08/2023 DE TWC 660 WP 12/2023
@@Mielespecialist this design is a lot better I only bought the TWF760WP two years ago and has the horrid clicking sound two carbon brush that sits on top of the drum. Had I know Miele were redesigning this I would have waited before spending over a £1k on this dryer, the noise I find to be very annoying
These are still the best you can buy. Unfortunately they have to submit to the laws for consumption of water and electricity People is demanding more and more useless functions and this leads to complications to tie everything up together and working properly. The electronic and expectations of fool people marred these machines otherways very very goog
What I have heard Miele is a great bran but too bad it is very expensive (at least here in Norway). The cheapest is about 12000 NOK and the the most expensive one is almost up to 40000 NOK.
