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Yes Stanton some hrs but dude is a strike out artist can hit a outside slider to save his life and gotten worse the last 3 yrs look at his ops and and obp dont make misinformation like this
Jim Rice should have been a 1st Ballot HOF. Ok at worst 2nd year in . Great Player - But Sportswriters are so Biased in their voting . Many are or were lousy at Sports and Jealous - Like the Caitlin Clark situation
That man could hit. One of the best. I'm still mad as a bluejays fan they gave Windfield the DH spot over Oliver. Oliver was hitting everything every time
Love this. I'd also add that he was a very good Center Fielder and preferred Center Field. I almost wish you could make another video to dispel some myths out there about him. It's true that he struggled in the outfield when making the transition from first base in the 1969-1970 period. From 1971-1977 he was a plus center fielder, above average and considered among the better ones of the era. By around age 31-32 his ability to cover the outfield declined and he had always been splitting between outfield and first base anyway. He was a very good defensive first baseman. I know that in some circles he has a reputation for being a bad defender and that has been a knock against him among some fans. I'm not sure if it impacts Hall of Fame voting. His defensive skill at first base was legitimately poor by 1984-1985 (aged 36-37 approximately) but that happens with age and injury. He ended his career as a DH, and it's possible some people may have memories from a time when his defensive skills had deteriorated, but they forget what he was like when younger. Oliver was the consummate "very good" professional. Strong in all five phases of the game (never much of a homerun hitter, really, but lots of doubles). And an outstanding human being. Clearly, he took the mentoring of Clemente and the legacy to heart. Never a highlight film defender like Clemente or Parker but very solid. Never a power hitter like Stargell but again, solid.
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@@mlbbrodotcom8285 His analytics have made him look like a bad defender, I know that too. I wish there was a way of intelligently finding a middle ground. In 1983 I know he was struggling with throwing. But, when I look at what footage I can find of him as an outfielder with Pittsburgh including the 1971 World Series or the John Candeleria no hitter of 1976, I don't see a bad defender at all. I know that analytics is considered more important than watching the game by many today. It's possible that analytics may be unkind to smart but not athletically overwhelming fielders like Oliver. He was never going to cover the type of ground with the speed that analytics often measure (he's no Omar Moreno in terms of speed), and his arm was never a cannon. But he was simply smart and made up for things with strong fundamentals. I'm pretty sure Clemente would have provided mentoring on the fundamentals just as Clemente mentored Oliver in other ways about life in general. It's hard for me to imagine an outfielder who Clemente took under his wings and mentored being anything other than fundamentally very sound.
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Jim Rice. My favorite player growing up. Flick of his wrist and it was gone. Injuries cost him homers later in his career and believe it or not, Fenways wall took away so many homers.
My manager at Safeway in the mid 80's played AA and AAA ball with Foster in the late 60's early 70's. He said Foster was the greatest player he ever played with.
He was a good player. Reds fans remember him for the mental blunder in game 5 of nlcs versus Mets when drieseen thought there was force out at third on sac bunt by Mets. Driessen thought there was a force out but there wasn’t which opened up floodgates for Mets in 5th inning and they won game 5. Driessen had great World Series in 1976 which unfortunately got reds to thinking they could trade Tony Perez. Even Driessen had some good years hitting 300 in 1977 he was never Tony Perez.
Jim Rice was phenomenal!!! However, when you get on the bad side of the media, they punish you. Jim Rice was quiet just like Art Monk of the Redskins. That is why it took Rice so long to get in. Travesty that he had to wait so long
Thank You for the insight about Jim Rice and his relationship with the media. He's not the first player to be overlooked because he didn't rock with the media.
Sarge was one of the men I used to watch & admire when I played youth baseball in Atlanta. Gary was playing for the Braves and the games were on #WTBS at 7:05. His one-of-a-kind bat swagger was something else. I'd use that technique when I went up to bat while playing for the Reds in College Park. If ya know, ya KNOW!!!
Probably the strongest infield arm I've ever seen. These younger folks now talk about how fast infield throws are because now they clock those speeds. When Dunston played, nobody clocked infield throws to first base. I can promise you, he had a stronger infield arm than anybody in the league in at least the past 40-50 years.
