Show me where any of this is given to us in a bible as a directive for churches. The UMC has dropped the gospel of Jesus Christ and discipleship of its member, its biblical charge, and spends it time on all this nonsense. Get out!!! Find a church that is teaching biblical truths and living them
😮 that sounds like a scam. The church was created to spread the good news and make disciples, not to burden the bride. I would urge all churches to follow Christ and not a "conference"
Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
Our little congregation voted "100% to leave the UMC"!!! How can they reason that one of the things GOD calls an "abomination" is all of a sudden it is not an "abomination"???????
Despite the opposition of the "Progressive" BULLIES, 20% to 25% of local United Methodist churches managed to disaffiliate. Good for them! The percentage would have been FAR higher if not due to the progressive BULLIES!
Hierarchical church organizations are not scriptural in the first place. The only church mentioned in the NT is the local church regulated by its elders. It would be completely immoral IMHO to send the UMC any money for any reason. Just walk away if you need to. Go join a sound church elsewhere.
The UMC will be loaded with lots of money for awile. The top heavy hierarchy will run out of money when the apportionments stop coming in after second year. Our church votes this Tuesday (Sept 5) Can't wait to get out.
It's absolutely heartbreaking, isn't it? I'm at the FUMC Clermont Fl, and the conference wanted us to pay 1.2 million in total fees. (We are a bigger church for the UMC) praise God our team negotiated that down to 500k, but still! Having to pay for our own property that we've owned for 131 years is outrageous! The UMC has committed great evil in the sight of the Lord, and I pray that he judges them accordingly.
It's a shame that it's a money issue rather than the Christian outreach one. The people who do not want to follow what the Bible truly says, well, THEY need to leave and start THEIR own church.
I know there is a lot of heartache over the “fees” to exit the UMC but when you break them down, they don’t feel all that unreasonable. These are commitments all UMC congregations made from the start - so honoring those commitments is fair and reasonable. The only “fee” I have any concern about is the land value - but 10% of those first two seem like a random number, it is likely well under the actual land/building value of the church building - so you’re probably getting off easy. I’m glad you are able to make this work, although I wish the UMC would actually make it easier to let dissatisfied churches to leave since it works to their advantage to get rid of the dissenters.
Where is Jesus in all this hoopla??? Jesus hated the Pharisees because they loved ceremony more than people He loved the Publican who had a simple belief system: "My Lord and my God! Churches are all about constitutions, the Bible, catechisms, retirement for priests and ministers and not about people! What do the churches do for the people Jesus focused on: the poor, the homeless? Young people stop going to church after they leave the nest. They get it. I give churches fifty years and then extinction!
Wow, $300,000 is a large "fine" to commit to trying to follow the Bible. The GMC still has no idea of how much their fees will be, especially when they start to consider retreat and camping and conference centers which the UMC already have. Pension commitments are the bulk of the charges. Sad situation for any Methodists.
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