Sorry it's not clear to you. "Checking the indicator' is simply moving the indicator upstream in the middle of the drift to reposition it to make up for the different current speeds or pulling the indicator straight up, out of the water, to see where the flies are at in relation to the indicator itself. Ideally, it's best to have the indicator slightly upstream from the flies because the water at the surface is moving faster than the water near the bottom. Doing this will get you into the fish. I hope this help.

@@flowflyfishing2131 I did understand about 2/3rds through the video. My comment was a suggestion on providing some descriptions up front. Thanks for the response

@@charlesloeffler333 I am glad to hear you stuck around for it to make sense. Hopefully, you can take it out to the field and get into some extra fish.

Sorry for the response delay. Tightline is always more productive than using an indicator. The problem with tightlining is that it's a short range game - usually within 30 feet or so. This is when an indicator comes in, it allows you to fish far out, which enables a fly fisher to cover more water. Thanks for the questions. Take good care.

@@flowflyfishing2131 thankyou so much for the info sir 🙏❤️ 1 more question is wollybugger is productive with indicator or not?

It can be productive and it will help you catch larger fish. try it for a couple of hours and if it doesn’t work, go back to smaller more traditional nymph. Also, you are not limited to wooly buggers - i did good up there this spring nymphing with a meat whistle and my point fly.

@@flowflyfishing2131 thankyou sir 🙏❤️ If possible id love watch more this kinda fishing in these water where we can only guess and put our fly there not like looking over fish and casting😊

yes, all wild rainbows and browns

Thanks. Go out there and try it, I am tomorrow. LOL. I would love to hear how it worked. Until then, be safe.

jdemartini, Thanks for the kind words. I enjoyed fishing this section. I hope to get back there this year. Those Pit River rainbows are amazing. Looking to explore more.

Thanks for the kind words. This works great, especially for longer drifts. I hope you find it valuable. If is does, and you remember, please consider dropping by back and leave us a report.

Thanks for the post and nice comment. I haven't been up there since early December. I am planning on going up for a couple day next week, although the weather isn't looking good. I guess we will have to see how it develops.

Mako, good to hear from you. I hope your fishing trip goes good. I would love to hear about it.

I parked at the little campground, just below the dam, and hiked down stream, then fished back up.

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Thanks Gabe.

Something about the Fall river, I seem to loose more fish than I get to the net, for sure. Most of the time, I am fishing downstream and have to set the hook upstream, which is less effective. Also, it seems like I get more fish on smaller hooks, size 18 and 20, which makes it more difficult to get a good hook set.

@@flowflyfishing2131 Thanks Flow. This was all dry flies, yes? Try any sub-surface wets? Just generally speaking, where abouts do you like to fish on the river. Never been, but have wanted to go for quite some time!

@@patsheridan I was using a combination of nymph and dry flies. When using nymphs, I am fishing them similar to swinging wet flies. Generally speaking, I usually fish upstream from the Caltrout access point, on Island Spring rd. I have fished downstream, but not as much. It's a difficult river - surround by private property and no public access. A fly flisher must launch a craft at Caltrout, hire a guide, or stay at a place that rents boats. All and all, it's a great river to fish.

Take a look at the 2023 fishing regulations booklet. To find the the download, click on the link below. nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=209090&inline

I can't seem to find any information on the south fork in trout waters or anadromous waters regulations. Only info on main stem below englebright and about the north fork

Hi Marc. Thank you for your reply and your comment. If you have a decent floating fly line, one that is made to turn over a fly rig, it's not difficult. I have found a roll cast really helps, especially if the flies land really upstream from the indicator on the initial cast upstream. Personally, I don't use euro type fly lines because they don't have any mass to them. I use an old-fashioned double tapper and just tie a long leader to the end while using any euro style nymphing techniques. This way, it I want to fish dries/wets/streamers, I just make a quick adjustment to my leader. I am curious, what type of line are you using?

@@flowflyfishing2131 Normally I use my traditional 4 wt rod for indicator fishing and I tie my own leaders and I use a 35 pound butt down to a 20 pound in 7 feet to a micro swivel. I then have 4x to 6x tippet and have my indicator on the tippet. This thing turns everything over like a champ and mending is easy. For my 2 wt euro rod I have a Double Taper fly line and then a loop to loop to my short setup with a 1X sighter and then to the tippet ring. I use the 1X when I am only casting up to 2 rod lengths or less. I have my 35' 6 pound test leader to my 4x sighter and then my tippet ring. So I wind everything off for dries. When I am fishing tight up to 35' away or if I am tight lining slow water.

@@MarcTelesha. Good information, thanks. Sounds like you don't have a problem turning over your rig. I am curious to know what fly line you are using on your 4wt. I generally up my weight on my fly lines, the extra mass helps turn over indicators and any additions weight (in fly or added split shot). Also, If just trying to reposition the indictor that is upstream, just after a cast, I am just throwing a fairly tie roll cast with enough momentum to lift that indictor up and move it a couple of feet. Please continue this conversation if you would like. It's a great little technique that helps get you into more fish when the conditions are right.

​@@flowflyfishing2131I am using the AirFlo Universal Taper. With the thick butt section on my indicator rigs I don't need an aggressive tapered line.

Great question old fart. all you have to do, is when your line is tight, give your line a tug or two, that usually sinks it just below the surface. It doesn’t work all the time, but when it does, it save you time having to change your fly.

Thank you old smuggler.

Right on Matt. Keep up the good work.

Thanks Old Smuggler Fly Fishing.

Thank you for the commit. Bob is a master.

Good to hear. Hopefully, you come back with some footage! Thanks for watching.

@@flowflyfishing2131 I plan to, will be my first time fly fishing in salt.

@@driftstone Good for you. I haven't been yet. Although, I think this year, I am going start fishing in the bay for stripers.

@@flowflyfishing2131 I hear that's a lot of fun. I have a 9wt now, so have all of these kinds things on my radar now

@@driftstone Nice. A 9wt. is a beast of a rod. I hope you didn't buy Sage. I am boycotting them 3 years. It took 5.5 months for them to repair my rod.

The Yuba is a local treasure. Great hatches and amazing fish. I hope you find your way there soon, after the flows drop.

great question, and thank for asking it. The majority of the time, no. As for the takes at the beginning and end of the video, in both cases i did not see the fly in the water or the takes. It's more about feel. The important factor, when fishing just below the surface, is keep in touch with your fly - very little slack. I hope that answers your question.

I don't think so. A lot of it is feed by a local spring which create the temperatures more stable. It's a great winter fishery.

Thanks. I love the Nucanoe. It gets around pretty good and I can stand to cast. I want to put a motor on mine, too.

Great place to fish, easy access. There is a slow current, so an anchor could be helpful. Good luck.

I am glad you pointed that out. Pretty odd but exciting, too.

Right on Bill. We have to get out some time. I may hit the Fall in spring sometime.

@@flowflyfishing2131 most definitely

Thanks Eric. I have been getting out, but haven’t done much filming. i may have enough footage to do some on Fall River. Spring should be good this year.

Hi Matt. Thanks for the kind words. Feel free to ask questions here. That way, others can see them.

@@flowflyfishing2131 thanks Flow. Curious if you have found a distinct steelhead season on the Lower Yuba? Just follow the salmon? Also, curious if you’ve chucked streamers on the lower Yuba? Also curious about upstream access points, mostly found private property above the bridge. Don’t want burn any spots though so understand your caution with putting it out there.

@@mattcervantes5470 Hi Matt. I haven't fished the Yuba enough to know about the steelhead. I like to go up there in around December for the egg bite. Also, if you are lucky, there can be a great BWO hatch in winter. I like fishing the Yuba in spring too. The only access I know is hiking up from the bridge. If you belong to a fly fishing club, you can rent the UC property ranch for the weekend - This is how I get access up there. Last time I was up there, early Dec, I got a couple fish swinging a black wooly bugger. The river was high and muddy.

@@flowflyfishing2131 thanks for the info! I’ll be fishing the L Yuba my second full year, always looking for more intel to make me a better fly fisher on the water. Appreciate your videos, see you on the water!

@@mattcervantes5470 - Sounds like you can give me some info, lol. Do you belong to a fly fishing club? It's a great way to get to fish that upper area. Keep in touch, and let me know how you are doing up there.

Hi Paul. Thank you for the kind words. Fishing wet flies allows you to fish the upper water column, close to the surface, more or less. Some times fish key in on insects as they are moving from the bottom to the top of the water column. Sometimes you will see boils or water swirls from fish feeding on just below the surface, this would be a perfect time to swing wet flies. Other times, there may be some adult insects on the surface, but casting a dry fly doesn't produce any catches, this would be another time to fish wet flies. My rig would be very similar to what I fish dry flies or nymph under an indicator with - a tapered leader, like a 9 foot 4x, then I would tie on a piece of 5x tippet, like a 24 inch piece, with a triple surgeons knot. I would tie on one fly on the tag end and another to the end of the line. David Hughes has a great book called Wet Flies. He goes into the history, tying instructions, and how to fish them. It's a must read. I hope this helps. If you have more questions, I am happy to answer them. Thanks again for the question and comment.

thanks for the feedback

Good luck. I may sneak out too.

Thanks Tony, your comment is much appreciated. It helps. There are other under utilized techniques used too. I will probably post something on these techniques in a couple of months. Good luck and be safe.

thanks for the questions and compliment. Right now, the mccloud is about 24-36 inches visibility. I just fished it 2 weeks ago, it’s fishing good

thanks free form!