Could you please tell me how this body rotation happens to form the catch. I believe this body rotation happens because of the flick of opposite foot. Is that so?
The rotation comes from the weight shift-the high side arm and top body edge being drawn down, coupled with the hip drive. The flick is part of the hip drive- it's where the hip drives off an anchored position.
After struggling to get a high elbow catch for ages, I watched and absorbed this video. It made an almost instantaneous difference. It took so much effort and tension out of my stroke. Than you. Brilliant.
I'd say this is the most important video on RU-vid for Total Immersion swimmers. I've watched this just before every single swim session in the last 7 months. This video keeps on "giving" as you progress, understand, and are capable of, the ideas that Dave shows you here. Brilliant stuff - thought I'd pipe up and give my thanks! Only wish you'd do more vids Dave. Get busy, mate!
I've watched this upload more times than I can count. Great stuff here -- especially when you mention that the lead arm is not the catalyst for the arm switch. That the pivot starts in the hip, moves to the obliques and ends with the shoulder moving the alternating arm into the water.
Before pressing play I said to myself, 'Oh great, Louis C.K. is going to teach me how to do the high elbow catch.' After watching it, I am so happy that I did. Thank you much Mr. Cameron.
1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:01,660 OK, this is Dave here . 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,740 We talked a lot about patience in the stroke, about how to start implementing front quadrant timing. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,400 Today, I do wanna talk a little about power side. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,260 And it's very important to this, today, to get a video demonstration. 5 00:00:12,260 --> 00:00:13,640 Because it's very different. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,920 And it's hard to describe in words to get that kind of angles. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,120 I'm assuming, in the stroke, they're gonna be building up front quadrant timing. 8 00:00:20,180 --> 00:00:24,620 that they lay out front so the shift of weight comes primarily from the drive of the hip. 9 00:00:24,700 --> 00:00:27,820 so off of ricks(???) and the outside of the shift of weight off top. 10 00:00:28,060 --> 00:00:29,200 That's the source of rotations. 11 00:00:29,260 --> 00:00:32,900 So I don't need to pull on this arm early, to make rotation happen. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,100 Now the other thing that's going to help true quadrant stroke. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,380 It's not just about how long wait out in front. 14 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:42,960 it's also the stretch of the arm starting to come back. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,640 As it comes up, it's important that it angles to find good propulsion, 16 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:52,380 that doesn't into the shoulder, that doesn't work on small muscles 17 00:00:52,460 --> 00:00:57,819 So, that(??) high-elbow catch that we're working on is making sure, as you roll up 18 00:00:57,819 --> 00:01:01,359 but you work with an even perpendicular early in the cycle of the stroke, 19 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:04,540 we don't want to slowly pull back and find it on the way down. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,420 As you're going through here, what we want to do is 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,980 (to) have a slight hinging motion when the rotation happens there. 22 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:14,980 This arm, the lead arm, is going to simply bend at the elbow. 23 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:18,060 And that does defend of the arm not being across the middle. 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,940 And that does defend of the elbow not being dropped onto that way. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Or else, you will drop through like that, and just pull on the hand. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,440 To find that strong hook, what we wanna do 27 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:32,000 is keep, in the outside with a slight turn, the elbow, that 10 degree trick we've talked about before. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,980 And we hit the right moment of the stroke, or going to drive from there and hinge on the first moment. 29 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:44,920 Setting up this true perpendicular. If fact you can't see my elbow right now, because it is perpendicular to the view. 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:53,320 When you get into that, the next challenge is that you are much stronger, closer into the body, than you are out at the hand. 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Have somebody hold back on you and push down through here, push down through here. 32 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:00,500 Because you're gonna have more access to so much more strength in here. 33 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:03,920 And it's close, it's closer in than net long lever out there. 34 00:02:04,060 --> 00:02:09,960 We want to make sure that we manage this without dropping that ... ah....without dropping the elbow. 35 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:13,260 Because if I'm(??) stronger here, that will come back faster. 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,020 We wanna hold that perpendicular to get the most propulsion out of it all the time. 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,920 So once you putted in,(?? put them in) 38 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:24,600 focus on maintaining this perpendicular by how much pressure you can put into here. 39 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:29,020 Keep the fingertips relaxed a little bit. And don't cup it. 40 00:02:29,020 --> 00:02:31,300 Because if you cup it, you're loosing some surface. 41 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:34,460 And if you put ultimate tension in there, it will curve back up. 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,280 So, hook it round(??) I'd like to think of it as fusing from elbow all the way up to knuckles. 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,560 And hit that anchoring position, to press it right through. 44 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:47,080 If this is done correctly, what you gonna find is, 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,860 it does create this like a curve to an observer of the stroke. 46 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:54,940 To the swimmer themselves, it should feel pretty much straight back. 47 00:02:55,260 --> 00:02:58,380 But you notice right now, to your view right now 48 00:02:58,380 --> 00:03:01,920 I got a narrow distance between my shoulders. 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,300 As I rotate, it widens, and then narrows. 50 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:07,020 So that's the top perpendicular(???) curve. 51 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,100 As I come through, and press, and release in the back, 52 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:10,480 ???? 53 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:14,300 That long gentle curve is the S that's been talked about. 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,820 But the swimmer should not be feeling it conscious wiggle in and out. 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,420 Unless, you're gonna really rip up the rotator cuff. Okay? 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,680 So there're main points on this. 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,860 Front quadrant timing provides the opportunity of this to happen. 58 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:28,120 It can't be done ???? 59 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:30,660 It can't be over the arm trying to get that twist in there. 60 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:33,220 You're gonna wait until something else is rolling you off. 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,260 Once you're in there, you gotta manage it, 62 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:38,560 so that we can maintain that exact perpendicular surface, 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,680 by how much strength you got in there, not how much you can simply put through. 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,860 Or, you'll lose the grip. 65 00:03:42,860 --> 00:03:45,120 You'll have an ineffective downward push. 66 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:47,600 And then, don't worry about the curve. 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,660 It will happen naturally on its own, if you time and rotation correctly. 68 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:55,800 Any curve you're doing is providing indirect tension in the wrong directions. 69 00:03:55,980 --> 00:03:58,900 And you're going to do some naughty things to shoulder. 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,680 So, something is work(??) on a practice this week. Good luck!
Dave, thank you very much for this video, you really explain and show it well, now i really understand and how to do it.Again thanks Dave two thumbs up.
1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,220 OK. This is when I talked about before. OK. 전에 말씀드렸던 것을 설명하겠습니다. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,660 But there we're gonna talk about 10 degrees trick. 그 때 10 도 틀기에 대해 이야기했었습니다. 3 00:00:06,220 --> 00:00:08,280 What I have a swimmer do is : 사람에게 하라고 한 것은 : 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,580 When they push and extend, a lot of people, when they stretch, 많은 사람들이 팔을 뻗을 때에, 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,680 Watch my elbow and what happens here, 제 팔꿈치가 어떻게 되는 지 잘 보세요, 6 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:18,000 As they stretch thus slap the elbow slip under, as they try to head for extend. 길게 뻗기 위해서, 팔꿈치를 수면 아래로 강하게 뻗으면서 놓을 때에, 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,440 The problem is that sets up for really well dropped elbow. 문제점은 팔꿈치가 잘 떨어지는 자세가 되게 한다는 것입니다. 8 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:26,000 If you feel like you're putting on the hand, you might only be putting on the hand. 만약 손으로 누르는 느낌이 든다면, 아마도 (팔뚝을 쓰지 못하고) 손으로만 누르고 있을 것입니다. 9 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:33,620 But our goal is to set you up in the position where anchoring is almost unavoidable that it will happen naturally without focus. 하지만 우리의 목적은 닻질(anchoring)하는 것을 피할 수 없어서 신경쓰지 않아도 자연스럽게 닻질(anchoring)이 일어나게 되는 그러한 자세가 되게 하는 것입니다. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,180 So that's where we talk about how to do the 10 degrees trick. 그래서 이제 10 도 트는 방법에 대해 말할 때가 되었습니다. 11 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:43,820 Once your arm has entered the water, feel like you turn the hand out 10 degrees. 팔이 물 속에 들어가자 마자, 손을 바깥쪽으로 10도 튼다고 느끼십시오. 12 00:00:43,900 --> 00:00:46,460 And ten degrees is not very much at all. 10 도는 절대로 큰 각도가 아닙니다. 13 00:00:46,540 --> 00:00:49,040 What happens with that is it should be a trick. 그러므로 마치 돌린 듯 안 돌린 듯 해야 합니다. 14 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:52,160 I don't actually want you to turn the hand out that direction. 손을 이런 식으로 돌리지는 마십시오. 15 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:55,040 But what will happen is that as they stretch, 실제로는 팔을 뻗을 때에, 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,920 it stops and from my coming here, (???) 멈춘 후에 다시 잡아 올때에, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,300 in fact, it usually gets somebody to turn the elbow out for the side like that. 마치 누군가가 있어서 팔꿈치를 이런 식으로 바깥쪽으로 트는 것 같은 것이지요. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,580 While, as that(?) comes through, it will keep the elbow on the outer edge. 되돌릴 때에도, 10 도를 틀면, 팔꿈치는 계속해서 바깥 가장자리를 따라서 가게 됩니다. 19 00:01:06,580 --> 00:01:11,700 So that later on in the stroke, you can move into the early vertical forearm. 그래서 나중에 저을 때에, 팔뚝을 빨리 똑바로 세울 수 있게 됩니다.(Early Vertical Forearm) 20 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:17,060 Otherwise, if they come through this way, the elbow flops under. 그러지 않고, 이런 식으로 되돌려오면, 팔꿈치가 수면 아래에서 뒤집어집니다. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,920 And they drop it through, and loose all the surface area of the forearm as a anchoring unit. 팔꿈치가 쭉 떨어지고, 닻질 하는 기구로써의 팔뚝이 갖는 넓이를 이용하지 못하게 됩니다.
1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,320 OK. I'm Distance Dave. OK. 저는 디스턴스Distance 데이브Dave입니다. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,580 Ammm... And today, we're gonna talk about how to get that actual bit out of a stroke in terms of the length of the body. 음... 오늘은 몸의 길이라는 관점에서 매번 저을 때마다 실제로 쪼금씩 더 나가는 방법에 대해 이야기하겠습니다. 3 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:15,660 At all my clinics, I ask everybody. 제가 클리닉에 강의를 나갈 때마다, 모든 사람들에게 해보라고 요청합니니다. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:23,980 Right now, who would like to be a little bit faster, a little bit more efficient, make these things a little bit easier on the spot, 지금 당장 이 자리에서 조금이라도 더 빠르게, 더 효율적이게, 조금이라도 더 쉽게 하고 싶은 사람은, 5 00:00:24,260 --> 00:00:25,300 raise your hand. You can do it. 손을 올려보세요. 여러분은 할 수 있습니다. 6 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:26,780 Most of them just go ... 대부분의 사람들은 그냥... 이러고 맙니다. 7 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:28,700 I know they don't really care about this. 그 분들은 이것에 대해서는 별로 신경쓰지 않습니다. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,080 If they knew the right answer, the right answer is not raising the hand like that. 만약 바른 답을 알았다면, 그 답은 그런 식으로 손을 올리는 것이 아닙니다. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,620 It's using the body ?? of that extra distance, there. 정답은 온 몸을 이용해서 여분의 거리를 얻어내는 것입니다, 저기까지. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,940 So without straining in a shoulder or torso, 이렇게 어깨나 torso(윗몸통)을 경직시키거나 변형시키지 않으면서, 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,740 I've taken it by there ?? going to here, 손을 여기까지 올렸습니다, 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,880 and give myself those extra three inches every stroke. 그래서 매번 팔을 저을 때마다 3 인치(7.5 센티미터)정도 더 가게 됩니다. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,680 It could be tucking the tail bone in. 꼬리뼈를 안쪽으로 말아 숨깁니다. 14 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:51,340 It could be stretching the chest up, pointing the toes. 가슴을 늘려서 올리고, 발가락을 포인팅합니다. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,600 pushing the wrist forward, 팔꿈치를 앞으로 밉니다, 16 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:56,020 but never an action that would loose the streamline. 하지만 절대로 유선(流線, streamline)형 자세를 깨뜨리는 동작을 해서는 안됩니다. 17 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:59,420 Often will people point their finger tips. They arch back up. 종종 사람들은 손가락을 세우기도 하고, 등을 뒤로 굽히기도 합니다. 18 00:00:59,420 --> 00:01:03,060 If they strain the shoulders, they'll curve into the middle or come up through here. 만약 어깨를 경직(변형?)시킨다면, 가운데로 진로가 굽어지거나 이 위쪽으로 틀어지게 됩니다. 19 00:01:03,340 --> 00:01:06,800 If they point their legs too much, they often skew them up there. 다리를 너무 뻗는다면, 여기 이 부분에서 비뚤어지게 됩니다. 20 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:14,540 But everything's going to fit into one body that longer line, as opposed to separate pieces as you go through that. 그러므로, 바로 앞에서 말씀드린 각각의 것들과는 정반대로, 모든것이 합쳐져서 하나의 기다란 몸통 선을 이루어야 합니다. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:20,520 So, every stroke, think of your destination as being something that you have a couple extra inches to it. 그래서, 매번 팔을 저을 때마다, 손을 뻗는 지점이 몇 인치라도 더 길어지도록 생각하십시오.
This is a particularly revealing demonstration. Thank you. I love getting better and better; TI swimming is pure genius - such a better way to swim than the old "beat and thrash" eggbeater styles for sprinting which I enjoyed in my younger days.
Dave - you've got some great swimming videos but they aren't labelled well and aren't really searchable (I found most of them through the one video of yours that IS labelled well and searchable). It would be super helpful if you could go through and write brief tags and a few comments on all your videos so more people can find these!
After watching this again a few times I just have to say kudos again. Having been brought up in the S-curve days and watched the Aussie EVF gain popularity I have yet to see anyone point out the intricacies as clearly and succinctly as you have. I am passing this on to a few folks in our Masters program who are struggling with catch mechanics. GREAT detail here.
A buddy sent me this link who is just starting out and I have to say kudos to you Dave in breaking down the EVF nicely. Been in this crazy game for 32 years and have seen a lot of lame instruction, especially since the advent of RU-vid. One thing I would caution anyone on having seen many shoulders blown up: achieving a perfectly vertical EVF is not necessary to be fast. In point of fact Michael Phelps comes nowhere near vertical.
Thank you thank you thank you! I have been watching swimming videos on youtube for 4 months. This very video, is the best video I have ever found. I listened to your advice and I got significant improvement today. I don't know how to thank you Dave! Carry on the good work and I will subscribe you and recommend you to my swimming buddies! Cheers!
this is very true. I was unsure about the hand entry before, since I did the same thing you said in your video but the "right" way is to enter the water with a low angle. Anyways thank you so much for the video. I am a new swimmer, and to train myself without a coach is really hard. Any information counts, and yours is very valuable. I really appreciate it
