Not too sure why that would be three diamonds. Not convinced we need a rating above two. If you can ski a double you only need to know if there are cliffs ahead. Don't need extra ratings so you can tell your friends later on. Trails like this would be single or doubles at big Western resorts like Breck or Jackson.
@@russdpipes live about an hour out, would definitely be interested in something like that. I believe my business email should be on my channel if you want to reach out!
@@antinumchrum9440 yes it is on Nancy Hanks peak, but the “trail” Church (what I ski here) is not the same thing. I say “trail” because it is a backcountry route, and Church is the community name for it. I don’t know why it’s called that, but I’ve heard it’s because you “gotta pray to make it down alive”!
growing up skiing in NY/NE from 4-y/o in the 80s and 90s, I was SHOCKED to come back to YT 25-30 years later and realize that nobody even uses safety bars out west in 2024 (ironically where the peaks are much higher and more precipitous!). edit: for all that powder, it sure sounds like you're scraping a lot of ice.
This looks like it would be a fun trail if it had coverage. But I suppose that is a chronic problem in the east. Maybe right after a 2 ft. storm it would be good, though 2 ft. storms are incredibly rare in the east.
No I have two other videos on The Church, this is a different spot somewhere on Mount Ellen (I’m deciding to keep the spot secret so it doesn’t get overrun).
Sadly the East Wall wasn’t open when I went but I think I still covered a decent amount for two days! Definitely on my list of places I NEED to go back to.
Essentially. It's more like a regulated rating. Colorado law says any trail meeting a certain steepness and difficulty requirement NEEDS to be represented with DB EX. Here's what the law says: "A new category, "extreme terrain," will be designated with a double black diamond containing the letters "EX." Terrain that drops steeply, such as a cliff, will no longer be marked with a "danger" sign and instead will be marked with the new sign including the "EX" designation. Extreme terrain is defined in the bill as any place within a ski area boundary with a cliff that drops more than 20 feet along a 15-foot run and a slope with a minimum 50-degree average pitch." I'm assuming it was changed in some way but that's the general difficulty of a DB EX trail.
Some Colorado resorts have both a regular double diamond and EX double diamond rating, some just have EX. Just depends if they want their standard for double diamond to be below or equal to the state's requirement. A-Basin only has the EX one.
I used to patrol at th Bush , and I was SO glad for each day that went by where people did NOT go n get lost in th outback. Even several of my patrol friends, who insisted on trying out these ledges, were really not skiing it in a manner that spelled "having fun" : When your so_called fabulous run involves stopping, traversing excessively and hockey_checking between every other tree, it aint convincing anyone of its merits. A run that actually permits relaxed turns, in continuum, is normally both safer AND more rewarding.
I'm surprised they had that gnarly bit at the top of Rumble roped off with how well covered everything else looks compared to how bare they let either of those runs get and still be open sometimes
For everyone saying it doesn't look steep and he can't ski/ is skiing way above his ability: The upper half of this run is absolutely insane and the angle doesn't do it justice. It is very much just survival skiing- with better coverage you can get some jump turns in at the beginning, but for the coverage he had that day, sidestepping is the smart option one slip and you tumble down like 100 feet ricocheting off rocks and trees.
This is easily my least favorite video on my channel, it’s my very first one that I threw up without much thought and it ended up becoming my most popular. You’re absolutely right, the GoPro doesn’t do it justice. However I also didn’t bring my best to the table here. I just did a run of this trail a couple weeks ago, planning on throwing it in an upcoming video. I like to think I shredded it up pretty well but that’s for the viewer to decide. However I remember this day, absolutely not the best condition to do this, and it is incredibly steep in person, probably around 40-50 degree pitch if not more
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy I mean it's good to be humble and put multiple attempts at the same run under various conditions so someone doesn't see you shredding it on a perfect day and think "ohh that looks so easy for a triple black" and then they end up hurt or stuck in a spot they cant get themself out of
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy if you can ski the east you can ski anywhere. lol. Looks like we are heading back to killington this weekend again. Did an evening session last night near the nh/ma border and it was dirt dodging ice. So it’s apparent these last few weekends of decent condition you gotta be up killington or farther north. See you out there. 🤟
Completely different animal. However it was also harder for me because, just like Chris pointed out, I don’t have the right skies. My skies were not powder ready so I would have to work extra hard to ski the sun baked terrain. However the video I’m working on for next Sunday when I took a drive up to A Basin definitely has some hard shit. The Steep Gullies are gonna be featured in there, absolutely crazy
Reminds me alot of my first time back on skiis in almost 20 years to the day. Went to Kirkwood on rentals and had a great stoner guide there too .... funny coincidence I guess??? Memory is a lil fuzzy hah but one run then he sez you got it bro, let's go to the top, past the skull and crossbones at the lift line. Not really the snow that day as you got so it was more like Vermont then too, alot more snow but firmer. The steepness is just hard to show, but the gulp at the top of Kirkwood was when I saw it was no fall zone..... you go down and you start accelerating immediately. The strange thing Vermont to the western stuff is you want to straight fall line stuff and forget you can remove the steepness with diagonal lines in the big wide bowls out west. Chutes you have to straight line are a whole different level, looking forward to the next.
I've watched your videos for the last two sessions. I'm going to sugarbush this week and next week. I would love to do some side country and backcountry, but I need a partner. If you're interested lmk.
Went to Sugarbush yesterday and the snow may be a little sketchy and thin out in the backcountry, but still should be fun! Would love to have someone to ski backcountry with too!
I haven’t skied in the eat for a hot minute, haven’t been since I went out west. But from the looks of it, everywhere is amazing rn, and I’ll make sure to go up this weekend so let’s hope it stays 🤞
Damn bro should have hit me up, Im so down to hit up Copper after driving by it so many times on my trips out there, weed trips not skiing lol 300 for 1 day at vail and others for less than 8 hrs... F that. You found the perfect day!
I only ski down Morse. This is incredible!!!! This isn’t important but I was the 173rd person to like the video and there are 173 carts on the village lift line on Morse
HEAD 171cm 2022 Oblivion 84 Bought new and custom designed by me, For a lot of the stuff I do (like this video’s terrain), I prefer shorter skis for more room to move in these tight corridors.
I have since found out that the upper cliff is not technically part of the trail, it’s an additional entrance. The actual entrance is a secret little passage onto the glades directly after the cliff. So if I had to guess, that’s what ski patrol actually checks. However, even with the cliff, the trail is definitely triple black worthy in my books, at least compared to the rest of Smuggs trails.
That first half did not look fun at all, way too tight and definitely not a trail. I love woods skiing just as much as the next guy but there are way more fun and open wood areas then that at Sugarbush. That just looked annoying to get through, you can't even get any turns in.
