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@@MiloTCG In CEDH Dockside is THE red card what are you even talking about? Dockside and then Jeska's. What CEDH are you watching because all the stuff I watch Dockside is EVERYWHERE :D
I'm a bit whatever on it. Replaced Dockside with RMS Titanic for fun in tuned Korvold. Other copies I luckily proxied. I had Mana Crypt in Darien mono white (hurt yourself deck). Replaced with a janky fun card. The monetary value will just move over to other cards I own as well such as Mana Vault/Ancient Tomb/Moxes etc. I do feel for the LGS store owners and cEDH people though.
Wtf are you talking about? The only people who didn't want these bans are the ones who owned these broken, overpriced cards. Stop speaking for the entire community and speak for yourself.
@@Zeromus5555 guess you didn’t watch the video. I’m fine with the ban, even despite me just buying a mana crypt this past weekend. As far as I see from the responses on twitter and here, the majority of competitive players did not want this. Casual players don’t care. I see your issue is with their pricing and how good they were for fast paced gameplay. These cards were great for making games go fast, nobody wanted to be stuck in an lgs for over an hour on round 1 only to be on turn 8.
@@mikerailton304 they made the game fast paced an competitive as intended. Nobody wants to be at the lgs for an hour only to be on turn 8. Save that for at home chill magic.
@@mikerailton304 sure it wasn't intended to be, but the community decided to make it competitive. We can't deny the difference in deck powers between what ppl consider to be cedh and edh.
It's split between try hard players that invested in said expensive, powerful cards and the players who remember that Commander is supposed to be about fun, casual games between friends where it's not about the finale but the journey. Too many players in a rush to win as fast as possible and all 3 of the mana producing cards did that.
The internet needs to find all sales of Crypt, Dockside, and Jeweled Lotus from before the bans, see if they were sold by anyone on the rules commits/wizards employees and out them. They should be prosecuted for some form of insider trading given the amount of loss from it’s customers
Don’t tell me the Committee is not totally connected to Wizards. Commander is a major staple of MTG and WOTC makes a lot of products for it. They absolutely have a say in what gets banned.
Maybe people should not buy pieces of cardboard with a price of 100+ dollars. Proxy your cards. Also these bans are joke. Play whatever you want in your gaming group.
@@thetasworld so ppl should be punished for buying expensive cards and enjoying their hobbies? Weird take. Definitely plan to continue playing whatever in play groups.
@@MiloTCG hasbro is not treating mtg as a hobby. They have been saying that non-stop. For better or worse we can't be romantic about it. So treat it as an investment. And for better or worse, people get punished for bad investments on a daily basis.
@@thetasworld ppl felt safe buying these also considering the two sets that pushed them heavily. That’s why ppl are so caught off guard. I overall have little issue with it as I don’t play cedh often enough but can relate to ppls outrage.
If the rules committee isn’t part of Wizards, why is Wizards making the announcement? You can’t be that naive as to think they aren’t enmeshed. Also, they did what they “felt” was best. Nothing empirical. No data. Just fucking feelings. Well I’m sure lots of people will let the folks on the RC know exactly how they feel.
isnt commander a casual format? even CEDH? therefore players under rule 0 can simply ignore the ban list if they dont agree with it. On the matter of proxies, I dont mind within reason so long as the player is not simply trying to pub stomp as the game needs to be enjoyed afterall.
Rules committee will get away with this unless people start voicing their dissatisfaction with WOTC or Hasbro and make it clear that the ban will hurt their sales because of loss of consumer confidence.
Honestly, I've dropped commander because I've seen this coming. Sold everything way before this. Glad i did, but at the same time im actually waiting to see how this is gonna shake up decks now.
As a community we should ignore this ban in every cedh tournament. Casual players don’t use these cards without stating they do anyway unless you’re an ahole trying to get a cheap win
@@yesimchar the deck I was building for the tournament only allowed for 20 proxies. I definitely would have proxies this one but the 20 i was using them for were wayyy out of my price range atm.
@@MiloTCG why would the tournament organizer do that and then try to call it cedh? allowing some proxies but not all doesn't make sense. it sounds like whoever was running it owned all the cards for their deck already and decided that because they spent thousands of dollars everyone else should suffer as well. the whole spirit of the format is that you play with the best of the best cards no matter what. all the top online and in person tournaments I've been to for cedh are 100% proxy friendly. I'm not upset at you, but upset on your behalf at the tournament organizer. that's ridiculous
Guys.. proxy all magic cards from now on. Sell everything and proxy. There is legit 0 reason to play into this scam. If you don't think wotc has communication lines and influence over the CRC you are coping.
@@MiloTCG I believe you’re smarter than that they walk hand in hand together, and you know that, what wizards did by allowing this ban list was a huge slap in the face to the consumer, wizards just got done selling Ixilan and Commander Masters, then they ban the cards that were the chasers for both sets….kinda messed up huh!
@@davidwright7922 oh, I 100% agree that the timing is “interesting” at best. Both commander masters and Ixalans main chases are crypts and lotus. I just can’t without evidence say in a video that they purposely screwed over players and lgs’s. I would like to know if they themselves sold off any crypts before the list was made though. All speculation atm, nobody is happy to lose money.
@@MiloTCG you don’t need them to come out and blatantly admit something when the proof is in the pudding….the rules committee, which is the law of the land when it comes to mtgs formats HAS TO run by any decisions in regards to bans through WOTC….If they didn’t there would be a major conflict of interest in regards to the financial side of product and what sales would be like. That is 100% fact, as for your other take in regards to whether or not people at WOTC/the rules committee sold off product before the decision was made(insider trading)…that would be speculation but one can assume so
@@davidwright7922 God you're an idiot. The rules committee is exclusive to the Commander format has no ties to WOTC and has to do nothing of the sort. You clearly DO NOT know what you are talking about and are just making things up as you type. You have an opinion based on absolutely nothing but your ideas. You have already stated something that is not true about the rules committee, therefore the rest of anything you say should be looked at as wrong and idiotic. WOTC regulates every format but commander. Its repeatedly stated by people over and over that WOTC waits too long to ban problematic cards in their formats because of this conflict of interest, they want these new cards to sell packs so they wait to ban in standard and modern. This is a KNOWN ISSUE, and you are an idiot.
@@maxreis9534 didn't know you could be a player and not a buyer. You mean people who didn't own these cards are happy. Your separation of the two is odd.
@@MiloTCG exactly you know what bothers me isn't how much money I lost in these cards. It's how I felt forced to purchase them because the format wasn't banning things in a timely manner. Dockside got reprinted that should have at least told you they weren't on the same page, especially after reprinting manacrypt multiple times including a recent standard set. Nadu doesn't bother me. That was timely but how do you explainJuled lotus? who didn't say this card was too powerful in the beginning and they let it go on and force people to invest
@@DangerKennyB only for a cedh tournament maybe. I proxy when I’m just at a friends house or something. Which looks like what I’ll mostly likely continue to keep doing
I've had more commander games where I played dockside and got net 1 or 2 extra which is the same as a dark ritual. This was not a problem in low powered commander at all. Only competitive magic.
Exactly and edh pods usually have their own rules and power level caps anyway. CEDH should not be held to the same rules since it is meant to be a faster format with high power levels
This list is a joke 😂 Nadu is a sorcery speed combo that dies hard to removal. They even say so. The rest are the foundation of the formats explosive plays. With dockside probablying being the biggest "problem card" but im not even sure its that big a problem since it scales well with tables.
I’m personally against the ban list, I just think those cards are lame in general. I’m not sure why people even care when counter spells exist? My friends still continue to use DSE and crypt, I’ll never tell them not to. Because I can work around a challenge. And if they win then GG.. guess I countered the wrong spell/tutor
@MiloTCG I'm super happy for it because all they did was make every commander deck 300 bucks more expensive to be on a competitive curve without creating any interesting change to how the games played. In the same way that sol ring basically has to be in every commander deck these also had to be if you wanted to be on a fair playing field. The difference being you can pick up a sol ring for a buck or two and these were 100-200
@@MiloTCG unfortunately I don’t know but the moth man deck wasn’t even that bad but it put something down that gave each of your opponents 3 rad counters on your upkeep and the copy deck just slammed down 9 copies of it because they had 16 lands and a omniscience
