I’ve been using the Veepeak with ABRP for months without any issues. I am using it with a Bolt EUV if that makes a difference though. The way I see it is Enode has the potential to to be more of a security risk than an ODB2 dongle. With the dongle you have to be pretty close and the car has to be on. With Enode you can get hacked from anywhere.
This is why we need more level 2 access at work and hard-to-reach places like rental properties. Charging goes from a bigger hassle than gas fill-ups to being as convenient as phone charging.
I think the next gen of VW EV's will be LFP and standard heat pump... In my BYD Seal, the AC has no impact and while energy density is slightly lower, the lower voltage also means you can constantly use (and charge to) 100%. These are the only reasons I didn't get a VW, because I came from one and would live another.
Not in the mail, but as of 9/4, my VW app shows that my car is subject to a door handle recall with an action code of 57J9. It also says that the repair isn’t available yet.
Back in ‘22 I came very close to choosing the ID4 over Tesla… glad I didn’t today. Now at 125,000km and going strong. I hope VW gets their act together soon.
I have a '22 AWD Pro S, and have not received any over the air updates at all yet. I am quite disappointed in VW at this moment. I'm also disappointed that the original Bridgestone tires didn't last more that 18k miles. I do like driving the car, and have taken a number of long trips (1600+ miles), but the software is horrible. We also have a Tesla Model Y for comparison.
I agree about the software; definitely frustrating. You may want to contact your dealership- and also call VW- to see about the OTA updates. I know they roll out the OTA's in batches according to VIN.
Just a few days after this post, I got my first over the air notification. Turned out to be 3.2.13. It was similar to what you described. No notifications. The ui does seem to work a bit better. Not what I would consider good yet though.
I think this was a big part of the reason for partnering with Rivian. They know software is a weakness. Have you driven any other ev's by chance? Would be interested in any videos on that if so. I enjoy when people with a lot of experience with a particular ev compare and contrast with others. It helps with purchasing decisions and I think many ev buyers have either owned or test driven an ID4 at this point, so it's a nice reference point.
Agreed! Hopefully that partnership will be fruitful. I own an ID4, and I’ve driven Ioniq 5 and Tesla. If I had more time to devote to videos (this is not my day job), I’d broaden my offerings, but hopefully this content is helpful anyways. Appreciate your comment, and thanks for watching!
The first OTA update didn’t appear to fix anything noticeable to me. Others have noticed improvement to lane assistance, but that hasn’t been my experience. Won’t know if this update did anything noticeable for a little while. Appreciate the comment!
People are crazy if they have an EV without a home and garage to charge it in. Too much of a hassle on a day to day basis. I have the Hummer EV SUV and charge at home every night. Public DC charging is OK for road trips but not as a main charging option.
I agree that home charging makes owning an EV much easier, but lots of apartments and condos don’t allow it. Moreover some folks travel far for work, necessitating reliance on public charging. And not all places of employment have charging. So, public charging needs to be present and reliable to enable mass EV adoption.
@@goneelectric If had to rely on public charging more than a few time a year (for road trip or vacation) , I would not own an electric car. Way too much hassle and no real savings.
Thanks for explaining the layout of Electrify America and EVgo Stations. I was wondering why there are four terminals at Electrify America when there is only one parking spot to the left and right. I was like “wait, what?” 🤣 Cool vid BTW.
How about 2 large dogs? I have two 65 lb german shepherds. It doesn't look like there's that much room with the seats up, but with them down would it be ok?
@@dave_manley With the back seats flat, I’d say it would work well for 2 GSDs. Bigger issue is making sure they stay cool enough because there’s only one vent for the backseat, and it’s on the rear of the console.
@@goneelectric With the seats flat is that rear console vent blocked? Currently I'm driving a 4Runner and really like having the operable rear window, but that's not an option on most new vehicles.
Oh, good question. The vent isn’t blocked, but it will interfere with it somewhat. We typically blast AC for 5-10 mins, which has been adequate to get the cabin cool for our dog. The drawback is that you and anyone else in the front might get a bit chilly because ID4’s AC is the most powerful and coldest that I’ve ever had. Really though, it’s never been a huge issue.
Sorry but I disagree with some of your comments about Enode. For example I don’t think Enode has anything to do with the predicted charge at yours destination. ABRP does this based on your inputted mi/kw regardless of whether or not you are connected to Enode. Enode does no calculations as far as I can tell. It only gives you current readings. Yes, if connected it will show your current SOC with green bars next to it to indicate your are connected. If the bars turn red than the number is provided by ABRP itself based on its own calculation of miles driven and usage rates. Enode also does not improve the calculation of where to charge and how much to charge to, ABRP does this on its own. Again, from what I have witnessed using Enode on a 2000+ miles trip all it does is give ABRP current data, everything else is a function of ABRP with or without Enode. I also find that using an PBD II gives a more reliable connection and always remains connected. I found Enode would not update certain data often enough and at times disconnected. If I am wrong in what I have stated please let me know why and I apologize in advance but I found Enode to best much less of an improvement to ABRP than you have stated and is inferior to what and OBD II does.
Agree to disagree. Enode may not be making calculations, but since it's an API, the live data it communicates from your car should enable ABRP to more accurately adjust SOC while driving. Also, Enode provides lots of useful/helpful charging data. Your comment does spark an idea for an apples-apples test. OBD II is more stable- this is something Enode will hopefully improve on- but comes with security concerns and may also pose warranty issues. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching!
@@goneelectric I think you will see if you do an apples to apples comparison there is no difference in the data Enode vs ODBII provides.They are both pulling live (one more "live" than the other) data that lets ABRP do it's calculations. The nice thing about OBDII is that the data is instant and doesn't drop out. I don't think ODBII security concerns are as big a deal as you think. The range of BLE isn't that far and it's not active if the car isn't on. Whereas with a server connection like Enode there is a possibility of them getting breached but again I wouldn't be all that concerned about that either. In the end I think you should look at which is more reliable. Also, I was able to connect the VeePeak BLE without any issues to ABRP. Don't open the connection to Car Scanner first, I think that would interfere. Only one connection at a time. Hopefully you'll do an OBDII video soon.
Before Enode, I used Tronity. There are other programs for that (some are free, or at least they used to be), but in practice, OBD is by far the best because it doesn't rely on the car's connection to the server. Sometimes the car doesn't send data in real-time, so ABRP can lag behind.
Dear Evan, you should state all the time your speed, otherwise we do not understand what are you seeing. Driving at different speed makes huge differences for SOC.
True, although I actually acknowledge this point in the video; I state that I was adhering to the speed limit throughout the drive. I also show my avg speed at the Baker stop.
The interesting thing about this is that it comes at a time where we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the need to do route planning at all regardless of your tools. I’ve been doing EV road trips for about three years and lately I find that I simply don’t need to do advance route planning. There are now enough chargers out there that I just charge when I need to and don’t have to worry about it too much. Obviously it depends on the route, and this is more true of the interstates than the back roads, but you can certainly see a point in time coming when advance EV route planning is a thing of the past. And, no, I’m not driving a Tesla.
Not sure I entirely agree. It depends on your geography quite a bit; In California, public charging is an absolute mess, and there are lots of factors for this. So, route planning enables us to plan out alternative chargers (and better chargers) relative to our SOC, which gives us peace of mind. Other places in the US have almost no public charging. I'm hoping for that public charging utopia you refer to, but I don't know how long it'll take to get there. Thanks for watching, and I appreciate you sharing!
@@goneelectric Yeah, you are probably right about the geographic variations. While I have logged thousands of miles road tripping in EVs, it has all been in the central part of the US. I have not taken any trips on either the east or west coasts, and I can see how those areas might present significantly different charging situations from the ones I have encountered.
Does this work with lat/long destinations? My destinations for work are not e911 addresses. Google maps can sometimes get me there but it’s only about 80%, it often makes errors, tells me to drive through private residences, private property, gates etc., but it’s close enough that I can figure out the missing pieces.
Since Tesla doesn’t have Apple CarPlay, can we assume Tesla can’t use Enode & ABRP on car display? Does anyone feel it’s risky to give out your EV login credentials to a 3rd party because they might get hacked. Then, a crook can control your EV.
Great video. Now I’m jealous that Enode isn’t available for my car (Genesis GV60). For now, I do have an OBD2 dongle that works really well. In my experience, ABRP always predicts on the conservative side, I always arrive with 3-12% more SOC than it predicted. As the trip progresses it adjusts the prediction and gets closer to the final value. I strongly prefer that it be conservative rather than err the other way - much less stressful that way.
Thanks! Yeah, exactly- I have no complaints if it estimates conservatively. The alternative would be a real problem. It is compatible with Hyundai, so I’m wondering if Genesis will allow for compatibility at some point?
@@goneelectric Ooh, you're right, all of the other EGMP cars are supported, both Hyundai and Kia. I was confusing this with Tronity, which does not currently support Hyundai. Now I'm wondering if the GV60 really isn't supported or if this just got left off of the compatibility page. I've just sent a support request to Enode asking for clarification. Next chance I get, I will also just try it myself and see if it works - I already have ABRP premium so I guess I have nothing to lose by trying it. Hmm, the compatibility page says that for Hyundai and Kia vehicles that activation is required (but doesn't explain how to do that), and that the "The vendor APIs are experiencing frequent issues with stability, and/or response times, or are sensitive to frequent polling. What we recommend - The user experience is expected to be degraded. If you decide to activate brands or models with this score, we suggest giving your users a heads-up about this." For your ID4 it says that the API is stable. Considering that you experienced some dropouts, maybe this isn't ready for prime time with EGMP vehicles yet. Chevrolet and Cadillac are also listed as having low stability. Interestingly, Polestar is not on the list at all (like Genesis), but Volvo is.
@@jamesrea329 Another commenter noted that the connection to his IONIQ 6 is unstable. My folks have an IONIQ 5, so I’m going to test it shortly. Thanks for the info!
@@GraysonA Using Google, I found a compatibility table on the enode web site. It was a pretty complete table but there was no information for Genesis or Polestar, every other EV brand available in the US was listed even if they weren't supported. In the past any RU-vid comment I've posted with a URL has been removed, so I didn't include the URL. Hey, I recognize your name from the GV60 forum! I'm GVJim on that forum. I thought about posting about this there but since I don't really know anything I didn't. If I hear something back from Enode support I will post to the forum.
I was really enjoying the video up till 16:00 when Evan finally admits that he was driving the exact speed limit to make it more “accurate“. If anyone has driven from Los Angeles to Vegas, they know the dangers of attempting to drive the speed limit. Cars will be passing you at 20 miles an hour over.😂 I appreciate the amount of self-control. It must have required to drive that speed, I don’t think I could possibly have done it myself. Even driving with a limit of 10 over is a challenge.😮 Thanks for the video!
You’re welcome! Glad you found it helpful. I was truly white-knuckling it trying to adhere to the speed limit. I do not recommend anyone else trying that it…
No hardware. Users connect EV Users sign into their OEM account using Enode’s link UI, and easily connect their EV to your app. Users access EV data Users instantly see EV data including State of Charge (SoC), vehicle location, range and more. This information is updated in real-time, rather than requiring users to manually input it.
GOMs should only make a minor adjustment when you turn on climate, then give it a minute or two instead of freaking out. Route planners should modestly anticipate climate use based on temperature, adjust range for hills and temperature and anticipate charging speed based on temperature.
Pretty cool that you can do this without an obd2 plug. I'll be doing a longer road trip in October and will probably get this setup for the trip for some added piece of mind.
Get it before hand and run calibration...I wonder if that would help this route planning. You just have to drive with Enode running... something that's proving difficult for my IONIQ6.
VW has a terrible software experience. This might be why they are now partnering with Rivian. Hopefully this update will improve future updates which it sounds like is the plan. The VW ID.4 we own is nowhere near as good as the Hyundai Ioniq 5 we own. About the same price but the Ioniq 5 is a lot better in many...many ways.
I’m hoping that same thing. I’ve heard that they’ve improved the software quite a bit for MY 2024, so hopefully things are moving in the right direction. My folks have an Ioniq 5 and love it. Great car.
Do you think that is safe to charge an EV underneath where you sleep? I mean would you want your neighbors charging these under your bed? We just had a 4 houses burn down from these and what happened last night at the Rivian Plant yesterday?
I've been driving my Mustang Mach-e AWD with a 72 KVA battery for five months & have put 4100 kms on during that period. Driving with heat & seat warmers on, I use about 25kw/100km mixed driving & about 24kw/100km highway driving with the AC on & an average speed of 120km/h. Driving the car without heat or air & the windows down on nice days, I have achieved consumption rates of 14kw/100kms. I am not a "hyper-miler" by any means and very much enjoy the acceleration & torque of the electric motor. I've used a supercharger once during an unexpected 400km round trip (I was about 60% charged at the time) and a level 2 charger at the local community center twice simply because I wanted to know how the process worked. Those three exceptions aside, I have charged my car exclusively at 115v using my mobile charger which provides 1.2kw an hour. I generally keep the car between 30% & 80% charged. I do not charge the car daily. When the charge level drops below 40% I plug it in. If I have an upcoming trip, I may plug it in to get it to 80%-100% before the trip. If I need the car before I reach my charge target, I will unplug, run my errands & replug when I get home - no worries. Unlike an ICE car, I can sleep, eat & watch TV while I "fill up". One day I will get off my rear & arrange for an electrician to install a 220v outlet so I can reduce my charge time, but it really hasn't affected me. I do enjoy not worrying about gas prices or thinking about having to visit a gas station to fill my tank. As for the one time I had to use a supercharger (at a highway service center), I connected the car to the supercharger, used the restroom, then ordered my meal at A&W. By the time I had my meal (roughly 30 minutes later the restaurant was busy), I had already reached my charge target of 80%. I unplugged, ate my meal and continued my trip. If I had to fill my tank, it would have added 5-10 minutes to my travel time. Any real patience required was for waiting for the food.
I have the IONIQ6, finally caved on ABRP Premium because i like data. I was using an OBDLINK MX from new car acquisition, but it doesnt do BLE so i bought the OBDLINK CX. It was a bit rough getting it to connect to ABRP and Car Scanner but I got it. I've been 90% happy with the ABRP-CX integration, just wish i didnt have to open ABRP every drive so it can calculate consumption. It works well when connected getting vehicle data back to the cloud for analysis. But you have to manually connect every time, and some times it will time out. I also use Enode and i dont know if theres a conflict doing both but it still has issues compiling each drive and also getting charging data sent back. Works fine if i stay in the car for OBD readings but its sporadic over Enode. I can't remember why i wanted to get the new OBD, probably just for more data/integration. Which it did but theres got to be a better way. Interesting you had Tronity available. I'd imagine its the same idea and Enode. I don't see that connection being available on my app.
Seems like every method for connecting ABRP to a live data input comes with some drawbacks, but it’s a still net positive. Enode is a little buggy, but I like not having to leave an OBD plugged in. Appreciate that feedback!
Interesting if you lose garranti on your 12v battery if you have a Hyundai ioniq 5. This becouse of the pinging of the car and your car isn't going in deep sleep mode and stays awake. Or is it only pinging when you use ABRP?
I have the IONIQ6 and I've noticed with my adapter living in the OBD port for weeks I see zero loss in 12V SOC. Probably because the HV is charging it up.
Did they fix veepeak compatible? They used to claim it has issues and in our ioniq5 I would see issues at time but worked partially during a trip. It will work but it is temperamental.
@@goneelectric btw the enode is amazing,.been waiting for something like tronity in the US so I don't have to use the odbc2 adapter. Seems to work with our ioniq5 and e-tron. I look forward to trying it on a road trip. You will have to post a video on how your first road trip goes with it.
@@CraigMatsuurait doesn't always connect with the cloud therefore not recording your drive. If you navigate using ABRP I'd think you'd be fine but otherwise not so fine.
Great video, this is the first I've heard of Enode. Unfortunately I've just done a bit of research and found out that my GV60 isn't supported. The similar Ionic 5/6 ARE supported, so maybe Genesis will add this in a future update. In the meantime, I've had excellent results with an OBD device. I bought an OBD extension cord with a built-in switch (found it on Amazon) so that I can easily enable the OBD device only when I need it, without having to plug/unplug it all the time. Apparently we're nearly neighbors, I live in Huntington Beach and drive by the Seal Beach EVgo station all the time. Perhaps we'll run into each other at a charging station someday, or maybe at a SoCalEV meetup 😀
Thanks! I'm assuming that Genesis will be added at some point since Hyundai is compatible, but we'll see. OBD is generally the way to go, but I'm hoping Enode can offer the same reliability without additional hardware. That's awesome! Always glad to meet EV neighbors!
I don't seem to have Enode in my ABRP app. When I click on Connections it provides AutoPi (a Dongle) and ABRP OBD Connection (Veepeak Dongle). The later is linked on my Chevy Bolt EUV but no appearance of Enode. I deleted the app and reinstated it--still no Enode in there. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong?
Unfortunately the ABRP web site says that Enode is not available for the Bolt. I tried to post the link to the ABRP compatibility page but I guess RU-vid doesn't allow links in comments.
Amazing. Rivian is killing it. I use ABRP premium all the time and it's great. Having a 2024 VWID4 it shows the battery percentage upon arrival and I've found it to be very accurate, but the suggested chargers aren't always the best, so I still use ABRP for that part. If we can get consistently reliable infrastructure and more of it, there will be no more ev road tripping anxiety with these tools. That said I still can't wait for the R2. Port location same as Tesla and access?! Cross country here I come!
You’re welcome! The only issue I’ve noticed so far is that it can temporarily lose connection if you’ve been away from your car for a while. Seems to re-establish quickly though.
ABRP allows you to record your trips for consumption metrics using Enode. This does not always work as advertised. I've noticed missed trips, random connections saying you drove 15 feet, or only recording parts of charging sessions. It's awesome that it's available but it needs more work.
Hard time believing you could find just one Electrify America charger that functions. I have 4 in Phoenix and I’m not close to any of them, but it doesn’t matter, only one out of all the chargers works at each station. Now have to charge my Hyundai at a Tesla pay magic dock and they always work. Fuck Hyundai for pairing up with the worst chargers on the planet. If it wasn’t for my level 2 charger at home I would have driven this thing over a cliff at the Grand Canyon.
