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50 miles is only 33 feet of curvature at ground level. A 6 foot man would see even less curvature than that and climbing up a sand dunes would be less and so on. So you could actually see the city from across the lake at 50 miles away. Check your math. There's only less than 8 inches of curvature for every mile. If your trying to convince people that you shouldn't be able to see it doesn't make much sense. It actually make people ignore the argument I'm a skeptic on lots of things trust me, but this video would not convince me of a flat earth. If you don't want people to think it nuts that we live in a globe. Don't debate with this video.
Tom, I feel so bad for you. Just reading some of these comments gave me a headache, I can't imagine how discouraging it would be to get on your channel. Sometimes it doesn't help to try to explain stuff to certain people. I certainly found this extremely interesting and appreciate your very informative explanation!
@@ridwanmujahid_2.020 in the world of social media, engagement is engagement. I’m happy with the work I did, and even how I was challenged by those that are skeptics. I went the extra mile to explain this phenomenon. But no, I don’t read these comments on the regular. It was nice seeing your message though.
"...I sm SERIOUS here, folks. Again, we're doing our best; we have our crews out there to report the news. DON'T make the news -- you do NOT want to be part of the news story!" That call tells you all you need to know on how serious of a storm this was.
@Tom Coomes : Watching the video, and comparing it with close shots of the Chicago skyline... well you _can't_ see the lower buildings of the skyline in the 'mirage shot'. So,.. it's a nice video of a thing we know does happen, but I'm not sure you _need_ to invoke a mirage to explain seeing the Chicago skyline in the 'mirage shot'. The video shows that the Chicago skyline is entirely, or almost entirely, hidden from the sea level. The guy who took the image of the skyline says he took it from the top of the dunes. You can't tell exactly how high the dunes are, but from a bit of researching into Warren state park, where the images were taken from, they're big - at least 10 - 15 meters tall. if I put that viewing position into any of the Earth curve calculators that account for viewer height - e.g. the omnicalculator earth curve calculator - they tell me that only the lower 150 meters of the towers should be hidden from atop the dunes. If I compare the 'mirage' photo to near-shots of the Chicago skyline it looks like that's roughly the amount that is missing.
Certainly, you can't see any of the lower level buildings, and the tall towers are all cut off above their base at about that level. When you're looking at the inversion from the dune tops it sounds pretty clear that you're seeing the towers because you've climbed the dunes, and it's just the inverted image that is the result of a mirage. So the buildings are entirely hidden from sea level, and partly revealed from 10-15 meters up. Well that's exactly what you'd get looking over a long shallow curve to the surface between the camera and the buildings. I'm tempted to guess that the original news story got their details wrong: They thought the image of the skyline was taken from sea level, rather than up the dunes, and so assumed this was something rare. Or, as the FE guys on these comments do: They never thought about the effect of viewer height in the first place.
So full of malarkey the town where .. Joe Biden grew up… Flat earth GOD created everything” I’m confident to say Wicked Hillary Clinton said one day we will break that glass ceiling.. I hope not .. imagine another flooded world cannot stop the gushing water running out the hole 🕳️ 💦 I hope not !
He saying this science was proven hundreds.And thousands a years ago it was in the 1500's by Coparnicus. And was NEVER proven and he even said it was only a theory... As matter of fact you can't find anything written from him or his counterpart pythagoras that states it was anything but a theory ....
Did you not hear him say that a "mirage" means that it is a "mirror" image ... ? The Chicago skyline is not a mirage, it's what's called "looming". It's simply downwardly bending light - and since it's bending downwards, it allows us to see over obstacles, like the curvature of the earth ..
That graphic the guy he drew is would be 1000+ft tall as that proves nothing except that the earth is flat. I thought that it's such a big shere that we would never see the curve from the ground because of how small we are compared to the earth size so this example is flawed, not the scale and Definitely wrong
@@Andrea2601M It’s not my argument. I didn’t make the calculation for the curve. I can’t argue that point with you. I only know that according to “authoritative sources”, such as NASA, we shouldn’t be able to see Chicago from the eastern shores of Lake Michigan. Did you have anything to say that is related to my comment? Is there a new calculation for the alleged curvature or the earth that would explain? Or, are we able to see across the lake because earth isn’t a sphere and it just is what it is? You seem knowledgeable. Thanks for taking our time to enlighten me.
Not a mirage ,I was trying to find the video where Rob skiba(and his friend that grew up in the area,) starts at one side in a boat FILMING A VIDEO OF THE SKYLINE the buildings they sail the boat all the way over the water to the other side, proving it is not a mirage.
All they proved was Chicago was East of New Buffalo, something that was not in dispute. If they had gone to Warren Dunes and repeated the experiment multiple times, they might see or in this case NOT see the Chicago Skyline most the time.
I find it funny how people try to disagree with a meteorologist on a fact proven time and time again. I need popcorn next time i see a comment section like this.
At only 50 miles looking across the lake its only 33 feet of curvature. It's only actually less than 8 inches of curvature for every mile. So what are you saying
First of all, the circumference of earth is closer to 25,000 miles, not 28,000 miles. Secondly, what observer height are you using to determine how much is missing? If he's on top of the dunes, he could be more than 200 feet above the surface of the lake. And thirdly, how much of the buildings do you actually see in the image, i.e. how much is actually hidden?
On peut voir l'île de Corse depuis le Sud de la l'Espagne , l'Italie et la France , 226 kms de distance et c'est pas un mirage , c'est la réalité , puisque la terre est plate 🛹
@@Mitchell-lc5kj See how you can't refute my argument? "is flat" Nope - it's explained partly by refraction and the 76m elevation of the viewer. Imagine having a belief you haven't fact checked and that you can't understand how to present evidence for.
@@Andrea2601M ron skiba hired a boat captain on Lake Michigan. The captain thought ron was nuts until they got 40 miles away and saw the whole Chicago skyline. Look it up.
@@Mitchell-lc5kj Rob skiba was a conman. These phenomena have an explanation. A sunset alone proves you wrong. Learn basic geometry First, then play the expert.
@@Andrea2601M very simple tests. The captain did not believe him until he saw it for himself when things should make you think make you mad you know you’ve been indoctrinated.
You can see something the size of a 747 like the space station all the way into space as it passes overhead according to these same heliocentric globesters.
I'm a satellite spotter: I track a few every clear night, and they show up where and when they're predicted. I've taken photo s through my telescope of a couple of the bigger, lower altitude ones and you can see their shape clearly. I've measured their altitudes and groundspeeds via triangulation (the same basic method surveyors use to measure hills and mountains, and which you can truth-test on aircraft or balloons if known height) and these come out as hundreds of km, and km per second respectively, as expected. I also have a UHF radio kit, which I use to follow signals produced by these machines. None of that is dependent on my word: The kit to do all the above costs about under $150 - a year's worth of saving up at most. And the basic stuff - even triangulation for height - can be done by eye to a rough measure.
As for whether you should see these objects so high: A bit of experimenting tells me that, in direct sunlight, you can see a 1mm bit if glitter sparkle at 20 meters distance. If you scale up that 1mm to 10 meters - about the width of the solar panels on these machines and much smaller than the bigger ones - the 20 meters scales up to 200 km. Human eyesight, after a minute or so to dark adapt at night, is easily 10 x more light sensitive than in daylight. So , yes spotting these things in the evening, when the Sun is still on them, at hundreds of km should be well within the power of a dark adapted eye.
And, to forestall a common question: If you live near hills, or a flight path (I do, for what it's worth), you can see that high hilltops stay sunlit for a minute or so after ground level sunset, aircraft at cruising height (10km or so) stay sunlit for up to fifteen minutes. An object at several hundred km height should, following that trend, stay sunlit for some hours - and this is what we see, as satellites are usually visible to the naked eye for 2-3 hours after sunset, then fade from sight - strongly suggesting they are indeed very high altitude, sunlit, objects with shiny/metallic surfaces.
Hey guys! Check it out! I just took a super dope image of a city right in front of me while the 20ft tall waves weren't blocking it! Scientists... Its not in front of you, its an upside down mirage because of the water in the air!
"Wherever you think the image is, is not where it actually is." I feel in my mind that's more spooky to me than the earth being flat. what I literally see isn't true hmmmm. I truly feel like I'm in a simulation 😂
Mirrors don't reflect light to create the appearance of someone who isn't actually there. In reality, there is a clone of you on the other side of the glass standing in an identical copy of whatever room your in. A magnifying glass will also actually make things bigger depending on whether or not you are looking through it.
These tornadoes devastated many Mennonite communities and one good thing that came out of it is that even now Mennonite Relief are swiftly on the scene with expert help, particularly in tornado disasters.
How can you even stand yourself after this lying mess? Tell children these lies. Saying "science". You have to live in your own skin. Is it worth it? You have to insult your own intelligence. Insult yourself. How do you do that?
Even with our own eyes you can see Chicago and still they will try and explain it away with experiments that are always convoluted. The GREAT experiment that you are ignoring is the photographer that took the picture of Chicago's skyline. Water NEVER curves. Water ALWAYS seeks its level. You can do these experiments at home.
@@kimmokannala4576 If there were 30 floors hidden behind the water you would see very little of these structures but that's not the case as you can see for yourself . For arguments sake let's just say you were right and there were 30 floors hidden. If curvature was true you wouldn't see any of these buildings because they would be hidden entirely behind the curve. This is PROOF that there is no curvature.
@@TomCoomesIt doesn’t matter what time of year, if the Earth curves, no part of anything on the other side of the lake should be visible. This is not the only city that can be seen from across lake Michigan. It’s clearly flat. Thats why I can’t find any pictures or videos of Earth from space that aren’t CGI or photoshopped. Cant find any pictures or videos of any satellites in space either.
I am NOT a flat earthier! A mirage is a hallucination, delusion, apparition, fantasy, visual fallacy usually brought on by sever dehydration! Not seen by any camera of any type, because of fairy-tale inversions, conversions or any other B.S. explanations! Picture cameras are only capable of taking pictures that are truthful facts! This weather man shows severe ignorance and his uncanny ability to LIE about what cameras can factually see!
