Get the bat in the zone and on plane.. You have to make sure your BP simulates pitch angle. I throw from 25-30’ from a bucket. So the throwing plane is like a pitch from the mound. If you throw from 30-35’ over the top the pitch angle is too high. Obviously I can throw harder actually throwing. He just turned 15 and hits 95-100 off pitching and about 93-94 off the tee. He has a good swing. You need to realize your swing will alter slightly based on pitch location. You need to train location as well. We went to a UVA prospect camp and he saw three guys throwing 85-91 one guy had a slider at 79 that broke 22”. My son got three hits off those guys. None were perfect swings because he had to adjust. 92 mph triple in the gap off a changeup. He had to swing just after he planted or he would have been too early. Slider tip shot liner he stayed through. Last one was 97 at 19 degrees on a FB one hopped the wall. You can try and make your best swing, but putting a good swing and adjusting is good. Speed and agility training, weights, core training and learning to swing hard in the cage. Get used to being violent. You need to learn to swing hard and the control will come. Got to be loose to be fast. plakata!
I'm not sure putting kids in the situation of choosing between their fear of getting hit and their fear of being shamed is going to achieve the long term goal of having kids love the sport.
I love it! I would just make sure the opposing coach knows what’s going on. You don’t want the other team thinking it was about them or disrespecting them. I’d be a little scared nowadays pushing kids in endurance because so many took the shot. Having a team run foul poles or sprints, I can pick out the ones that took it. Yesterday a parent collapsed and rushed to the Hospital in an ambulance, job forced her to take it. Healthy 40 year olds don’t just collapse and have seizures on cool fall morning. I’be become very fearful that it is only a matter of time before we see this happen to a girl on the field.
been working with Chet for about two months now. He’s the real deal. He fixed huge issues in my daughter’s swing pretty quickly that I had been banging my head against a wall to figure out for months and we’ve got a lot more work to do but just the gains we’ve seen so far are night and day in terms of her ability to be a productive hitter and enjoy playing the game she loves. Thanks Chet talk to you soon man!
Good point. Here’s one of the studies I was referring too: Edgett, B. A., Bonafiglia, J. T., Baechler, B. L., Quadrilatero, J., & Gurd, B. J. (2016) This one was how sprint training (which is plyometric in nature) converts muscle fibers over 6 weeks from slow twitch to fast twitch.
Can you explain the correlation or lack of correlation between hand speed and bat speed? Within a workout, If hand speed goes up but bat speed doesn’t what does that mean?
Great question. So a couple things... The most common place we see this is with kids who extend their wrists too early, and don't know how to deliver the barrel late. They will often push the barrel away from their back shoulder too soon and then sweep their hands and barrel through the zone at one time vs. waiting to fire the wrists into contact. (that's one potential problem) We also might have a deceleration problem with some movements of the body. For the body to accelerate from the ground up, we need to train the athletes to rotate fast, and stop fast with each segment of the body. (super hard to explain in a comment section of a video though ;-) So we might need some declaration training And then lastly how you tell if you are getting good bat speeds in relation to hand speeds is you take your bat speed number (if you're using a blast motion sensor) and you divide it by your hand speeds. If that number is 3.2 or higher you are being pretty efficient at converting your hand speeds to bat speeds. If it's lower, you have some inefficiencies. Hope that helps!
@@chetwomach thanks. We were going to do your evaluation and program this summer but our 10u LL all stars unexpectedly over achieved and finished 3rd in Texas state tournament. That only left us with about 5 weeks before fall tournaments, we took 10 days completely off. It looks like we will have a good break from mid November to late February where we can really focus on training new methods with you without worrying about being game ready for a while. In our last bat speed tee work set she averaged 58.1 mph bat speed and 17.6mph hand speed, 3.3 ratio. We train a lot with heavy bats and with her 33/30 she average 47.8 and 16.6 for a 2.9 ratio. I’ll go back and plot the ratios over time and see how the 32/22 and 33/30 bats trend together. Is the ratio a optimal range or higher the better? Her last live pitching set she averaged 52.4 and 15.6 for a 3.3 ratio. How do we bridge this gap between live a tee?
Another good question... but anything better than 3.2 is a good transfer of hand speed to bat speed. As for briding the gap between T and live pitching the T will always be faster as the body doesn't have to make any adjustments to pitch location or speed. However we like to do all of our bat speed drills first on a T to train the body to move as fast as possible, but then we do all those same drills off a a machine throwing at game like reaction times. This is what helps us get as close as possible.
We do ask that you throw them a moving ball, as their mechanics will change from T to Front Toss, but yes, you get a free assessment when you take a 14 day trial of our online hitting membership program.
I always had this problem, but i physically can't eat enough. Especially if it is healthy food, unhealthy i just start feeling sick and i can feel how bad it is for my body
I get it. But if we want to help our kids get better we have to help them find a way to get the right amount of calories AND the right types. We did this by meal prepping healthy meals on Sunday evenings. We'd specifically do 1,000 calorie snacks and lunches. Chicken and rice were his go to.
While it's on the high end I think this is why some people struggle to gain. This kid was in peak puberty, growing fast, lifting and training hard 5 days a week. 3 days in the weight room and multiple other training days as well. Not everyone needs that much, but I swear to you it's what it took. It's not what I'd recommend people start with though. I recommend starting at 3,000 and if they don't gain, add 500 calories a day until they do.
I suppose technically you are right, as there's other tissues in there as well. But he got leaner body fat percentage wise as he put on those 21 lbs. And he grew an inch or two so there's some bone mass and other tissues. But it was 21 pounds of good weight not bad.
Yeah I need to make that more clear. Still working on my site. After I do the assessments for you I give you options to add a bat sensor after your purchase. I'll work on getting it done before.
It 100% is. I actually developed it for my oldest son... who has incredible home run power. But when I tried to share how we did it, everyone just said it was only because he was 6' 1". So when my little daughter started jacking shots we tried to reach out to the softball community instead. But it's IDENTICAL programming.
This drill has been a great addition for my daughter. Roughly 20% increase in rotational acceleration. Also, Camwood just revised their All American program and includes a very similar drill.
I would put loading in a different category personally. For me Loading happens in the 'gather' phase of the swing and before you stride forward. Still important, but the way I talk about it we do different loading movements in the 'gather' phase than we do in the stride phase (which this drill is more about the stride phase and 'launch' phase of the swing. At least for how I like to talk about it.
Too much hip . . . . . gonna' lead to weak opposite side pop-ups and grounders. I prefer my hitters to nearly simultaneously initiate swing, but, always hands first. Just my theory.
So if we're talking about how to not hit weak opposite side pop ups, I think if they can keep their shoulder closed while their hips are opening they can fix that problem. That's why I like this drill, as it works on trying to make the hands stay back AS the hips fire to fix those weak oppo hits you're concerned about.
i know my comment is late to the posting time but i love what you say, especially about the leg capability to help throw harder. hope everything went well from Australia
Dude!! I played baseball in college and I was a mssive hip shoulder separation guy. I also worked very closely with blast motion for a couple of those years as well and still train with it. I want to first say that yes, this method of teaching your hitters how to hit will in fact help them hit the ball farther. It makes logical sense and in practice it will get the physical results. Right of the bat I must say that no one who is a great hitter consciously is thinking hip shoulder separation. you will see different level of it due to different levels of slack in the fascia that need to be removed. Evenstill, there are many serious problems with this method of teaching hips first. One is that when they are thinking pull the trigger and that is synonymous with hips first they will be slower to the ball (but this isn't the worst of it). Also, the power derived from this form of hip shoulder separation is only maximized if the barrel "wins the race." In other words, the barrel has to be out front and "released" when making contact with the ball. You have to proverbially crack the whip. If the whip isn't cracked you haven't used all the energy you have just created. The third part is that forcing onself into end ranges with this type of force will hurt them (not guaranteed obviously but for some people). Often times players will have problems with their L5 and lower back from constant and excessive strain. I pose this question to you: if you were to rotate and pull a cable machine loaded with 200lbs you could try and connect and fuse your body to get it into the strongest position. If you were to try and first rotate your hips, then your torso, and then your hands (you'd probably look silly) you'd get stuck. This same concept applies to hitting. What you are teaching is disconnection. This form of disconnection does in tfact do what you promised (when you make contact) but it doesn't "play." I has had the worst two seasons of my life thinking this way but when I made solid contact I hit bombs (only made solid contact a hand full of times). My alternative way of teaching hip shoulder separation is the counter move into launch. A key feature of all great swings (Trout, Acuña,... you name it) is landing with a neutral pelvis in what the old school way of teaching would call a balanced position. From here the swing is done top down and the barrel should win the race. The best hitters don't think about thtier lower half. I'll end this rant with Mookie Betts as an example. People always see the way he he lands as say that he gets is power from his separation. MOOKIE TRIES TO STAY CLOSED! I promise you, I have message with one of his hitting coaches.
So a couple things... 1. It's hard to make one video on youtube that covers everything about hitting, and address all your points. 2. You bring up great points that if we were discussing this in person I bet we would agree on. 3. I agree that good hitters often agree that they need to focus on their hands first. But, when you look at them kinematically, they do fire their hips first. 4. I think different styles of hitters and movers, do the hips first movement differently. Trout is a more stiff mover and you don't see as much hip shoulder separation, but Mookie get's LOTS of hit shoulder separation. Si they are hips first even if they aren't thinking about it. 5. I think you get around the injury issue by taking volume into consideration. Nobody would argue that plyometrics don't help runners, but doing plyometrics 3x a day would cause injuries so i think this is a volume play. (but this video is geared towards youth when I made it. 6. I think we should analyze an athlete to first find how they are moving correctly before prescribing any drill. We need to look at what they do well and what they don't and take a wholistic look. Doing one drill for everybody. Lastly, I loved your comment, truthfully! So many people just come on and bash other people versus have a discussion. You brought up a lot of points people should be asking.
So we started as a local training facility, and are just starting to offer remote training stuff folks outside the area to share what's working with more folks, so my site isn't quite built up for that just yet. But you can buy our program where you can send in video where we can assess your athlete's swing and design a training program for them here: www.centraliabaseballacademy.com/tips (and as you're going through the checkout process, we give you options to add a bat sensor if you'd like)
Great drill! My 10u is getting 9-11g and 50-52mph bat speed in game swings. Our goal is 13g and 60mph before we go to 12u in the fall. We have to get in your program this summer.
@@chetwomach we just tried this drill tonight. We alternated 2 of this and 2 regular swings for about 4 rounds before we had to go to team BP for Little League. In BP she got up to 13.1g! I was shocked when I downloaded the data. We need a new goal now for fall 12u. In the game she only got 1 pitch to hit and stroked it in the gap, only 9.7g and 49.4mph. They pitch around her mostly in this league.
Blending 2 swings with the drill and then 2 regular swings is one of my favorite strategies for helping kids transfer the feel of a drill to their game swing. Sounds like you're on the right track with her development :-)
Hi, absolutely amazing it’s funny. This is how other Sports like Rugby karate or skiing approach players to become elite. been searching for The link to the form ? Doesn’t seem to be there to send through information on my son or daughter. Both representatives and daughter place for the state under 14 .Similar to you of develop myself into a batting coach but not at your standard or with the facilities which we don’t seem to have down under in Sydney, Australia…
We exchanged messages back in November. I decided to wait and build some foundation with her then jump into your system. She absolutely busted her butt working from mid November to now. Last week she made an A level 10u team that plays all national tournaments. Before she plateaus on our current program, we need to get your system to analyze gaps. Now we just need to figure out time and schedule given the extra team activities and travel with this new team. With Blast Motion her bat speed peaked at 46.6 in November. Now she is peaking at 54.8! A lot of overload/under load work. Throwing speed is up to 54mph from a crow hop. She still has baby giraffe syndrome so the potential is there to gain a lot more.
Love to hear about the development! Here's a link where you can schedule a swing assessment so we can look at what she needs to help keep her development on the fast track: calendly.com/laceywa/30-minute-meeting-clone
No hate.... But it really bothers me the way the world is moving in the velo direction. You said your kid was 11 when you started him in a program.... 11. At that point he should just be enjoying the game, having fun, making friends. Let the kid come to you in 9th-10th grade if they really want it. Parents are getting to caught up in making their kids live a life they might not even want now its a shame, say he throws 90 as a senior, goes to college and doesn't get drafted.... your kid will have no idea of anything else he likes or wants to do because his whole life was baseball... maybe not even because that's what he wanted but because it's what you wanted for him...
So I don't disagree with what you're saying. But like with everything it's about perspective. For example I have 5 kids... my oldest two thought the Velocity program we have was very fun, and thrived off of watching themselves get better each week. And that development turned into more success on the field and field an even bigger passion for the game. That didn't happen with my 3rd child so we kept it fun for her and look to other areas of life to teach her work ethic in that she's more passionate about. Also, I was a kid who grew up with a Father who wouldn't play catch with him. So I through wrong, even though I eventually played Division I baseball, and I ended up having arm health issues due to improper throwing mechanics. I didn't want my kids limited by those same arm injuries so I wanted them on a program that taught them how to throw right. And honestly at the youth level that's what the velo program should be. It's more focused on throwing harder by throwing correctly. So I'm with you for most kids, but for those who love the game and weren't born with the natural ability to throw hard, I disagree... as long as we're being smart and doing it safely (but that's a separate topic)
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@@BoJack32 So I didn't think I mentioned Baseball Specific movements in this video. But if I missed it in this video, or I was talking about them somewhere else, what I was talking about is the throwing motion being a movement pattern that is VERY hard to develop post puberty, and one of the movements kids need to learn right early. It's not a movement learned in the weight room though. Some aspects of quality movement like scapular mobility and pulling patterns and T spine flexibility are more important for throwers (obviously not just baseball but any sport that throws). And other movement patterns like torso deceleration can be enhanced in the weight room and are pretty rotational based sports specific. Did that address what you disagreed with, or were you referring to something else?
It's better than nothing, but I think their is more benefit out of practicing off of a moving ball. If you don't have a cage, working with some sand filled hitting balls and doing front flip drills I think have more benefit than just hitting off a T if you can find someone to throw to you.
it will perfect their swing as long as he/she knows the correct swing to practice. but there is no substitute for live at bats. And if you can find a cage at a field for free to hit in that is great, start with tee then transition to soft toss then live ab’s so they blend the swing off tee to actual live pitch
