I have a question, why is my odin not retaliating after i use his spec, his BFE is not applying when i use his special. I see the enemy team go, but he doesnt use his basic, and theres still the mark of mephisto left on his team.....whats going on.
Odin has to assist before he can activate his BFE. If you’re facing a Gorr, the enemy meph has to mind control Odin otherwise you have to basic first turn to activate it, not spec
Link to spreadsheet if youre not already coming from it bit.ly/MSFCounters 4- TW/Kes/Nova/Pho vs DH/QS(-SW) 0:00 Just wanted to see how Pho would do removing all the debuffs after those quicker than her would take their turn. Pretty gud I guess. QS still got to ult but ehhhh 6= Apoc/ET/AA/BTS vs IW 1:20 Filler for da sheet 1= Peg vs UX/Pho/Cyc(-Gam,Fanto) 2:21 Without Gambit, Peg dont give 2 shits about UX. We knew this already 3= MoE/Apoc(-Ultron) vs XtX/OML(-Cyc) 3:58 Still a medium size OML so this went as normal as it has since he came out 5++ SuS/Doom/AA/BTS/Minn vs S6/Mys(-Liz) 5:14 Doom gotta be big enough to stay above 50% until BTS' turn so he can remove revives. After that, its typical SuS things. Minn probably wasnt the best in terms of turn vp but hey, I got a Minnerva avatar, and who knows whens the last time I got to use her fr fr this Mysterio also did not help 6- TW/Nova/OR/Sam vs IW/QS(-MD) 6:54 Random 3. I have other vids of better turn VP - im sure, I dont actually look most times. Biggest thing to get out of this is to put SW adj to SW so he can spread speedup, and youre able to stun QS before Gamora and Neb turn. Rest is history 2- NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SpS 9:12 Another example of this garbo fight going too long. Liz on def now so dont gotta worry about going through this shit again 1- NW vs M4M/BTS(-DtP) 10:59 If your FS and DP are big enough to bleed OML, NW is the way. If there is a pretaunt, you Gwen spec instead and have to rely on FS ult (and passive) to kill OML otherwise good luck cause you just unleashed the beast 2- WD vs IW/QS(-MD) 12:38 This shit did as good as Peg ehhh this Wak rework better be amazing so I could use these guys more cause value was few and far between lol 3- MoE VS XtX/Dorm(-Gam) 14:15 This shit is easy dude. Easier than facing Gam. Yall be losing to any variation of this team tho so maybe yall just cant be helped. Mobile over here praying for a Doom trigger and got Dorm on offense just for this fight lmao hes so funny but also so sad 4= Cabal/Apoc/Emma vs OoT/Rog/Gam(-CGR,SB) 15:50 You would think that Apoc ult is the best opener here, but id wager youd be wrong. No immunity on Namor so Rogue would just render him useless. Now now this was a smaller BK sure, but I will have to bring up the fact that on larger ones yes, maybe Apoc ult and iso attack may not have even killed him I dunno hehe safest move is to spec and thug it out 6- SuS/Liz/Doom/VK/Loki vs SpS 17:25 Ive just been trying random shit against these annoying spiderverse lately. Been kinda fun lol and this room? hellaaaaa buffs which makes it much more enjoyable so do what ya like but still win 2+++ Cabal/Zemo/Emma vs HM/SuS(-Venom) 18:24 I originally tried my known counter but with BTS instead of Vul because I had the latter on def - did not work even without revives. now I know not to do that again. Just ended up having to use Zemo which aint as great as Vul with Cabal, but hes next best (since also Liz on def) 5+ SD vs S6/Vul(-Liz) 19:48 Vul does add some rng. I only noticed later after doing multiple fights because I wasnt really thinking about his opening slow like at all since the chance is soooo low, but if BC gets slowed, things can get wonky. BC does NOT always remove revives even WITH skirm so fuck off game. Thats something you gotta work around esp if GGC isnt removed and bleeds on turn then gets to ult oh brotha, this guy stinks! Always rewind GGC then do ya thang, chicken wang 6+ SuS/TW/VK/OR vs SpS 21:04 These mfs do get some hits in, but its all gud, man. Its just a random hybrid with SuS so its bound to win 2++++ Cabal/Zemo/RG vs SD/Noir(-DrS) 22:13 Now I dont have Liz or Vul to get an early crit so got the pretaunt for a quick HL. Zemo passive buff clear rng otherwise I wouldve went over to Robbie. Unfortunately even with speedup, Zemo just not fast enough against 132 speed so BC did stun the worst target being Namor. Its all a blooody mess of rng, but im pretty sure I still won this trial haha probably wouldnt do this again given what I have on def 3= MoE/Apoc(Ultron) vs XtX/Rog/OML(-Cyc,SS) 23:33 As you can see, I had to cancel my first attack. This was because a 5/6 OML did not get permakilled by my max Apoc - terrible that this acc does not have him g19. Notice the only other damage on OML was Kang passive. Apoc did not crit this time nor did Kang so what was the difference in damage I have no idea. The slow on MS prevented the second stun on NC that would control him for the rest of the fight. I have since moved Tit to striker for attacks on Rogue/Forge. All in all, a large OML will make this very messy 5++ SD vs S6/Vul(-Liz) 25:51 Ignoring the fact that BC cant always remove revives, the rng in this fight is DAMAGE. Idk if ive mentioned the shittiness that is the Doc passive, but do too much but not enough will fuck you up immensely. Robbie striker for more bleed damage is something to keep in mind. If BC is able to chain back to GGC and remove his charges, only then will you be able to put on vuln to take advantage of 6- TW/Kes/RH/VK vs IW/QS(-MD) 26:53 Heres a tremendously better turn vp +3 alongisde TW for this defense. I got Doom/AA later and took longer iirc so id opt for this 1= TW/ET/OR vs OoT/Vahl(-BK) 27:55 Without BK, basically the same team used. Some control here but mostly overpower
2= NW/SuS(-Dag) vs SD/OML/Noir(-Pho,DrS) 28:50 Got the medium sized OML and big SuS. FS passive kills him. It might actually work on higher if you have a 7r SuS but only if SuS' first attack takes him below 50 then hits him again to rewind him. Seems like you can Gwen basic and then FS ult adj to him to seal his fate. Wouldnt do it myself even if I had a 7r SuS but ya never know 3+ Peg vs IW 30:02 Even my smol Peg can do this match hooray yours can, too just believe in yourself 4= Cabal/Apoc/Emma vs SpS/BK(-Noir) 32:06 Guess who got stunned? Of course, its ya boi, Namor. Apoc spec ALWAYS FOR SAFETY IS NUMBAH ONE PRIORITITTI OKI. Cabal needs some levels since BK is so punishing but yeah thug it out like usual 5+ SD vs S6/Mys(-Liz) 33:46 I play this shitty fight 3x prior to this then of course on MY acc, BC doesnt remove GGC revive even WITH skirm, and guess what I already talked about this shit earlier, but GGC bled and got to ult so fuck you fucking game. Shit still be rng as fuck so at your discretion. Also SD wont work against Liz for obvious reasons, dont make me bop you on the head and have to explain it to your dumbass 6+ MoE/Doom(-Ultron) vs XtX/Rog/Dorm(-Cyc,SS) 35:38 Tit adj to Doom. I forgot about Kang (shown later), but yeah do that, too. Doom will get to ult after only Gambit goes. Target smart which I know is very hard for a very lot of you but at least try to get some permakills otherwise go safe and make sure to get some more tm via iso attack so you can get more turns to make up for your lack of skill 2+ Cabal/Zemo/RH vs M4M/Dorm(DtP) 37:07 Opted for RH to remove revive instead of Emma. Enemy positioning in my favor with PP behind despite OML being corner. Others were slowed anyway so everyone was controlled. 4= NW vs OoT/QS(-BK) 38:11 Just do a lotta dmg, thats it 5+ SD vs S6/Mys(-Liz) 39:23 Very surprising I havent seen one Liz def huh now that I write this, I might be seeing it every day next week so booo. Been using full SD as a total habit but may pivot to using someone arguably more useful and survivable with the likes of Nova who can get hit by GGC, lose charge, and gain tm to stun another target 6- SuS/TW/Nova/BTS vs SpS/BK(-Noir) 40:54 I actually forgot I played this and upon watching it, I really dig this counter. SuS/BTS/2099 to ensure BK is controlled so Nova can stun him. Still need to read SpS kits to see who has unavoidable and control them so they dont go thru my charges. That being said, this shit took way too long but if thats how its gotta be, thats how its gon be (focus that pos Pbp earlier) 4- SuS/Apoc/RH/Nova/BTS vs SpS/BK(-Noir) 43:38 On the other hand here, we got "overkill". iirc this guy had a shit def so I went ahead and did this dumb shit lol poor SuS was getting tunneled made me a lil scared, but at least I had Apoc to make sure I was gonna win no matter what 6= NW vs SD/Nova(-DrS) 45:06 When will NW lose its value? Once ppl realize SD still gonna get shit on by these mystics. Damn that was brutal 5++ SD vs S6/Vul(-Liz) 46:10 This was it! The one where BC got slowed. Gotta put her in corner eh now if both Pho and BC got slowed, that wouldve meant another retaliation which I guess doesnt mean much now that I think about it. I wouldnt want Robbie going next anyway tho. Man that Doc was so close to going before Robbie then Robbie almost dying woof woof all around 6++ MoE/Doom(-Ultron) vs XtX/Rog/Dorm(-Cyc,SS) 47:25 Heres an example of me not being able to finesse damage and getting the good side of rng which I imagine is how you guys feel when you play, scared and relieved when it goes your way. NC not cleansing stun was the holiest shit that couldve happened but it did - cause im awesome 1- ET/OR/BTS/Hela vs OoT/Dorm(-BK) 49:24 This is what I believe is a better example of how to do this match versus what I did last week mainly cause I used OR ult on Carter so she doesnt ult to cleanse and heal. This did take a while tho 2+ Cabal/Zemo/Emma vs M4M/Noir(-DtP) 51:07 Since OML is the first target to go, you should target the other side with Zemo. No point slowing someone whos gonna die. If they survive Namor ult to revive, at least Leader gets to go before they do. Even Cable should work in a pinch, but that means you have to slow OML if Zemo doesnt crit. Certainly dont need Echo here with Cabal against Noir 6- TW/Kes/Doom/AA vs IW/QS(-MD) 52:09 Heres that Doom comp I talked about earlier. even with the larger pd, its the revives that make this longer. Doom also isnt as helpful turn wise tbh Kes/RH/VK is the optimal +3 so far 1- WD vs IW/QS(-MD) 53:27 This shit was niiiice and clean. I actually will prefer this over Peg just cause I heard ppl near losing that fight lol 2- NW/Apoc(-Dag) vs M4M/Zuggs(-DtP) 55:09 OML is gonna go so dont bother hitting him besides Gwen spec before Apoc can ult and kill him. Having to use both NW and Apoc is overkill. Pretty much Apoc/Emma+3 will beat OML so long as you can permakill with Apoc then its a done deal np at all 4= SuS/TW/ET vs SpS 56:03 Eternals time! Id say this was the best vp out of all the other random hybrids I think 5++ SD vs S6/Vul(-Liz) 57:12 Okay okay, last one 6+++ Cabal/Zemo/Emma vs SuS/BK/Dorm/Cap/Nova 58:41 Zemo passive actually removed BK taunt lol very lucky sure my positioning couldve been better so I couldve got more buffs. Also said they need more levels. Bad enemy positoning with SuS and BK adj at least against Cabal esp in this room. I slaughtered this guy in the final trial. Shit was fun as hell one shotting Only a chill 11k characters this time, where does the time go
Read description first before commenting dumb shit. I will insult you Link to spreadsheet if youre not already coming from it bit.ly/MSFCounters Trial 1 Backlash 1- NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SpS 0:00 Starting off is this counter originally from last season. Room doesnt matter, but this fight generally is still an rng fest because of the cleansing of debuffs and vuln not to mention debuff and buff clear rng. Use at own risk, not too great punching up considering the new stats and kits of SpS 2- TW/Kes/Hela/Neg vs TW/QS/Hela/Emma 1:17 Used Emma elsewhere so add another minion to die and reduce tm, but I went ahead and ab'ed SW cause I dont think thats enough after I 2099 ult and give her tm. Random team and counter whatever, dont think youll see this often, if at all 3- MoE/Apoc(-Ultron) vs XtX/OML(-Cyc) 2:39 I will not highlight how I play this normally here (you can watch). Using full MoE, there is a specific order and targeting. As with OML, he will take his turn regardless before Apoc, but Apoc will ult to permakill him. Cant let that guy take turn 2. No Rogue does make this easier, but thats when you Kang basic her np 4- HM/Mys(-Venom) vs IW 4:03 Havent read Mys passive in a while, and it turns out you need 2 Su6 alongside him to prevent immunity which is basically useless. Be that as it may, the heavy pd allowed HM to make decent work of IW with virtually no danger 5- SuS/Vahl/Nova/RH/Brawn vs S6/Vul(-Slay) 5:32 Random flex toons. No Doom on offense, but that is changed now for next week and the future. Vahl for expose synergy, possible early AB. Nova charge resistance and tm when cleared. RH for possible revive removal and rewind alongside Brawn to potentially keep him alive and give tm/dp for a possible ult. That being said, Doc passive is a BITCH. Shit can go south real quick, but this guy was dumb enough to put Vul and GGC close enough to be rewound by SuS which helped me get more abilties out 6= Cabal/Vul/Emma vs Horseman/SuS 7:29 No problem here, absolutely get wiped. Vul is going on def tho so looks like I will be using Zemo from now on Jex 1= MoE/Apoc(-Ultron) vs XtX/Rog(-Cyc) 7:56 Dont need Apoc against XMen. If you do, you need to get your MoE up and learn how to play this fight correctly. Having to use Apoc is a massive crutch when other defenses may require it. Yea, im talking about you, dude 2+ Cabal/Vul/Emma vs M4M 8:52 If possible which probably isnt the case, Cabal wipes M4M alongside a quick villain crit or at least Emma so enemies take less turns before Namor can ult and rewind them. Simple stuff 3- NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SpS 9:29 Different but also irrelevant room. Room 1 actually can heal SpS on turn if vuln wasnt already cleared. I also switch up ability order, Liz spec instead of ult. Because Pav passive removes both NW evades on spawn (bug but who knows when itll be fixed), Noir can seriously fuck you up, Gwenpool for example that made me cancel my first attack. Ideally Gwen and Noir are last to kill, but they do do a lot of damage that make you regret a little by doing so 4- TW/ET/BTS vs IW 11:08 Weak ass BTS. Hate this dude. I actually upped him to g14 this past week to against BK, more of him later. He did not remove revive on Gamora which was dissapointing but still got decent vp I guess 5++ HM vs UD/Doom/Ultimus 12:51 Dont put Hela on def or do cause I took way too damn long. At least you wont get stuck like how Symbiotes did against a stealthed Hela 6- SuS/Vahl/Nova/Kes/OR vs DH/QS(-SW) 14:54 Random mismatch of whatever, just uploading full trials. Shouldve rewound them first tho lol Godfather 1+ Apoc/ET/Kes/Vul vs OoT/Dorm(-SB) 15:49 Used BTS first attack like a dummy, but Vulture was almost not was helpful here. At least he got to ult after a useless first turn. Eternals not that great unless BK gets possibly stunned by a Nova but news flash, I have tried it this week to no avail 2- NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SpS 17:08 This was the good rng fight. Wish all these fights were like this 3+ HM/RH(-Venom) vs BF 18:36 Useless defense team. Top notch counter 4++ Cabal/SuS/Nova vs XtX/OML/Rog(-Cyc,SS) 19:22 No crit so Rogue got to go first. Probably shouldve basic'd from her side so at least she wouldnt have been taunting. Random Nova, shouldve used Emma instead, but at least he took Rogue and OML like a champ 5= MoE vs HM 20:35 I got hella distracted the first fight so ignore that cancel lol permakill RG in this room otherwise you can just kill him once elsewhere. Dont let VK ult since youll have bots up, and they can feed on you. Whatevs 6= TW/Vahl/OR/Abom vs Gamma/Doom(-Abom) 21:34 TW+3 will beat these guys np. Even with Doom, not even a medicore defense team Kory 1- Peg vs IW 22:23 I guess WD are out of cc now with everyones IW so big. Also, 4/6 arent too great for WD. This was rm1 yea, but IW will take their turns and heal from their vuln so its not ideal. Peg is the safer counter for sure since as a raid team, ppl will typically have them up 2+ TW/Liz/Nova/Emma vs SD/MLF/Noir(-DrS,Pho) 23:56 RNG as hell lol I just did a hail mary with this one. I forgot that 2099 cant get speedup against BC, but once again Nova takes the rng like a champ. If Robbie targeted SW, it wouldve been a wrap 3= MoE/Apoc(-Ultron) vs XtX/OML/Rog(-Cyc,SS) 25:13 Heres supposedly the harder fight with Rogue. She did get to spec, but everything else was pretty much the same as without her 4= HM/RH(-Venom) vs Peg/Dorm(-DH) 26:49 HM will be strong for a while until their stats get power crept and arent able to get ppl down to red as quick. Dorm is np. RH ensures no funny business from Rescue, and thats all it was 5+ Cabal/SuS/Vul vs S6/BK/Rhino(-Slay,Liz) 27:42 If this BK was g19, this may not have went as smoothly. Then again, I did mention Doc passive is a bitch which can make this fight rng hell. I was able to kill him twice before he got to give anyone more tm than I wanted 6- NW vs SpS/QS(-Noir) 28:54 SpS is pretty rough in this room since Pav goes quicker than NW and spread some funny business. I did misplay here with Dagger as I shouldve targeted QS and possibly killed him. This shit got rough in the middle and then super annoying towards the end against a sole PbP Results 31:18 Winner winner chicken dinner. I will try to remain humble so gg ez pz git gud, closet boi
Trial 2 Backlash 1- Apoc/ET/Nova/BTS vs OoT 31:46 If BTS is large like how it is on this acc and flips D up and Nova wins the coin flip and goes first against Ikaris, its possible Apoc is not needed. If rng doesnt go your way tho, you may regret not bringing him in the first place 2- SuS/UD/VK vs M4M/Rob(-DtP) 32:39 I was just testing shit out. I fucked up Godfathers trial 1 then switched up to this acc trial 2. SuS is not good against M4M. With the revives, he just isnt an ideal enemy for them since SuS ult is one and done should be over. Fight took forever since I didnt bother figuring something decent out. Just look, big Zuggs so lets use him. Dies... lol 3+ MoE vs XtX/Rog(-SS) 34:43 As mentioned before, I play 2 cc's simultaneously so that first one attack I decided to go against how I usually play this. Rm 4/6 may prove to be detrimental for MoE, but this is how I usually play it Depending on the size of Forge if you are confident in killing him before he takes a turn, you can either Tit ult or Kang basic him then target Rogue with the other ability. You can Kang spec if no Rogue, bonus pts if Gambit is adj. Always rewind Gambit so he doesnt take his turn before MS and apply evade to NC. If Gambit was slowed via Kang, he does not need to be rewound before MS can ult. Ultron bot spawn rng. Dont necessarily need to speedup, you can rewind someone of your choosing instead, say the one you disrupted with Kang. Tit spec Forge. AM spec is ideal if Gambit doesnt land AB on him or if green bot lives. If O up bot was able to live, Kang ult, else spec. MS spec NC then cleanup 4- NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SpS 36:40 This shit got fucking scary as hell. I really dont like this counter. My targeting bounces around based off enemy positioning, and there is no clear writeup without really analyzing what happens turn by turn - and I still dont even know SpS kits like that. Taking them up and just being able to sim skill nodes and not play them is not playing the game at all 5= SW/RH/Kes/Emma/Cable vs BC/HL/RH/MLF/Emma 38:23 Originally tried NW Emma. I knew it wasnt going to work because of how late HL was going to taunt but decided to try it anyway. Used 2099 like a dummy again and had the bad rng. Tried this hail mary like in trial 1, and SW didnt get rewound whew so yea dont replicate this lol decent def tbh but everything is dependent off of each other 6= Cabal/Vul/AA vs SuS/Dorm/UD 39:34 Easy Cabal bait. Vul/Liz/Zemo are your 3 prime villain crits if youre not going to overkill with SuS. AA against Hela or simply Emma to ensure enemies take less turns before you. How many times will I say this? Who knows... How many times will I see slow ass characters alongside Cabal and then comments saying how weak they are? Always. Godfather 1++ NW vs SD/Dorm(-DrS) 41:22 Yawn, get shit on. Filler battles eh 2- Cabal/Apoc/Emma vs M4M/BK/QS(-Dak,DtP) 42:28 If no BK, dont need Apoc. This one was pretty weak, too so I he wasnt sure he was even needed regardless but oh well, now you know and see for yourself before prompting an attack 3= HM/RH(-Venom) vs IW 43:04 tbh this aint ideal, Peg still better. Just wanted to try it out. Enemy is only 2m and couldnt get them down quickly enough so that RG can take his turn before he got AB'ed by AW. Sooo just for fun, do or do not 4= SuS/Vul/Liz/ET vs SpS 44:57 Random hybrid. Still took a decent while to take these annoying ass mfs down. The positoning and stealth did not help at all 5- TW/Kes/Nova/OR vs DH 46:10 Old stuff, TW+3 of course. Didnt get to AB before she reset everyones tm tho so thats on me 6++ MoE vs XtX/Rog(-Cyc) 47:34 This is me NOT doing what I originally said to do. In a moment of weakness, I said why not ult with Kang cause its rm 6? WRONG. Stick to the proper strategy and dont rely on rng for a win. Shit was too close for comfort Jex 1++ TW/Kes/BTS/Emma vs OoT/Nova/Cosmo(-SB,CGR) 49:40 I had to figure out a way to do this without Apoc. Good thing 2099 was able to remove D up as BTS did not. Will probably take the latter up to improve that chance as this went long but decent. Kes was able to kill BK, but between her and SW and then Cap and Carter immunities, I got nothing but slowly finding the right time to finally kill them 2+ Cabal/Vul/AA vs M4M/Rob/Noir(-Dak,DtP) 51:29 Easy peasy like it was nothing. Im sure when payouts for OMl go out, it will not be any different considering how strong Cabal is 3+ NW vs Asgard/Dorm/ThorIW 52:19 I got the good rng with no triggering. Thought I was going to get punished with my shit targeting lol still the right counter. No funny business 4++ MoE vs XtX 53:26 AB Forge. No Rogue so Kang spec Forge. Rewind Gambit, stun NC. Confident in Kang ult to kill Forge. Now this is where the discrepancy lies. Not sure how NC cleansed his stun and got to spec. Doing Kang basic, spec, then third turn ult ensures he doesnt go low enough for his passive to kick in. Works for me pretty much always, and I dont even look at enemy team powers 5+ Apoc/Liz/UD vs SD/SuS(-Rob) 55:01 First attack I misplayed and then got into a 1v1 with Apoc vs SuS. Decided to cancel and show how I shouldve done it. Still some rng of course but if you were to watch the first fight, you wouldve seen the difference in how clean it was. Biggest thing was targeting HL with Apoc ult so iso attack can kill her then getting to permakill SuS 6- SuS/Vahl/RH/Nova/VK vs S6/Vul(-Slayer) 56:51 Doc passive is a BIIIITCH. I hate this annoying mf, dude. I used VK instead of Brawn this time - stupid but ultimately a moot point since Doc got to ult. Any slight differences in power or chance of crit to change damage output into S6 can drastically change how this fight goes to the point where it doesnt matter how you plan, just be ready to adapt to what happens. In other words, use Doom -Kory trial 2 1= NW vs TW/Rog/Gam/QS 19/19 8363. Easy as fuck, no notes. You should know how to do it 2= Cabal/Apoc/Zemo vs OoT/OML/Noir(-SB,CGR) 15/26 7566. Daken adj to OML so cant spread bleed to him. I did DP ult instead, and he barely lived. Maybe I shouldve just used spec instead. I was trying to save Cabal for HM SuS. Dont need the video for you to figure out this counter 3= MoE vs XtX/Dorm(-Gam) 20/17 8362. Normal stuff if youre not bad like most ppl. Either kill Forge twice or know how much damage you got so you can perma with Ultron or Kang 4- TW/Kes/Liz/Nova vs SpS/Sam(-Noir) 11/8 8344. Long ass fight, random hybrid anyway 5- SuS/Vul/RH/VK/Emma vs HM/SuS(-Venom) 17/20 7962. Instead of trying to do M4M without Cabal, I shouldve thought about this first and earlier. I have done this counter before, but I just didnt remember it oh well 6- WD vs IW 19/13 8357. WD still works! Sucks I dont have the vid smh
Trial 3 Backlash Apologies for this trial of fights. I was driving with a hot phone which lends to the lagginess of this gameplay. Was not going to record again at home since it was late and had trials to do 1+ ET/OR/BTS/Hela vs OoT/Dorm(-BK) 59:11 Similar to previous trial above, I tried one shotting IW without TW instead of realizing I did not need TW for this room. The turn order for this was quite heavenly. Only regret was not focusing Carter because I AB'ed her so she did not ult. Me thinking she already did tho lol 2- NW/Echo(-Dag) vs M4M/Noir(-DtP) 1:01:14 EASY CLAP. M4M get wrecked. He aint the one doing the bleeding today. As mentioned earlier, its possible not to bleed him out if Daken is adj to him as you cannot spread more bleed to him with DtP spec, but it is still ideal to use that ability as the room provides a bleed on turn, and she still does % damage. Just make sure your FS is thicc. When ppl get their OML payouts and are able to buy more reds on him, the viability of this counter will reduce 3++ MoE vs XtX/Rog(-SS) 1:02:55 ez clap ez clap. Stop losing this fucking fight, you plebs 4= Cabal/Apoc/Liz vs SpS/BK(-Noir) 1:05:42 ngl to you, this defense slaps. This is an ideal counter despite the amount of rng this fight is already riddled with. Apoc ensures the win, but perhaps against a smaller BK not quite as necessary 5+ SuS/Vul/RH/VK/Emma vs HM/SuS(-Venom) 1:07:25 This is the way. Preferably Vul (to a lesser extent Zemo because of health and after turn 1 usefulness) to quickly remove deflects off of enemy VK so your own can AB him. AB/rewind SuS. Positioning dictates extra rewind and slows. Remove RG or SuS revive. If the latter, quickly kill RG twice before he can revive then cleanup 6- TW/Vahl/Kes/Nova vs IW/QS(-MD) 1:08:58 Shouldve went with TW to begin with. Neb and Gamora are not to be messed with in this room going quick to spread their buffs. TW+3 like usual haha Kory 4++ Cabal/Apoc/Liz vs SpS/BK(-Noir) 1:11:19 Another iteration of this fight against a larger team power. First fight I had Liz skirm for some reason, and he didnt crit so that was an automatic loss. All SpS got to take their turn before Apoc and even PbP after Namor rewind so that just means I really gotta read their stupid ass kits to understand what happened so differently. Hate this stupid ass team 5- SuS/Vahl/RH/Nova/BTS vs S6/Rhino(-Liz) 1:12:39 Got stupid lucky here, but it looks like this will probably be my go-to team for S6 if I were to choose to keep Doom on def. I will be using him instead of Vahl or RH, I have not decided that yet Jex 2= NW/Liz(-Dag) vs SD/Noir(-DrS) 1:14:07 My positioning was wrong at first. Certainly dont want Gwen next to Liz, I overlooked that tidbit. Despite not being able to kill Robbie before he ult, still relatively safe assuming your cc teams are up and running 3+ MoE vs XtX/Rog(-SS) 1:15:29 Massive thicc Tit for the win being able to survive on a sliver to reach her second ult to AB Rogue. I might g19 her. Thats what I am currently planning as I am going cheap as fuck for DD7. Its a separate game mode with its own characters to upgrade for. Hint: Ravagers 4= Cabal/SuS/VK vs SpS/Sam(-Noir) 1:17:44 Overpower this dumbass team cause why not, totally not because I got the worst rng and failed to clear rm 5, thats not why 6= Apoc/TW/Vul/BTS vs BK/Dorm/Doom/QS/Cap 1:18:34 I had a plan in mind. I just didnt think it hard enough. Shouldve just tried to remove the revive. If BTS ult didnt work, yea like his spec would lol I need to read his kit same as SpS. I have no idea how Apoc clutched this, but I will assume its cause he is g19 so I dont feel too bad for rushing the gun on him. If youre going to choose between Apoc and OML to g19 first, I would take the latter imo Godfather 1- NW/Echo(-Dag) vs M4M/Noir(-DtP) 1:20:32 Another win for NW to give life to them as they are slowly coming down in value although DtP being a M4M does not automatically devalue them imo NW still pretty fast, and shes required to make them work so it doesnt make sense to break them up for cc 2- SuS/Vul/Vahl/RH/Mys vs SpS/Dorm(-Noir) 1:21:34 Mysterio useful or nah? Took longer than I wanted rewatching this 3+ MoE vs XtX/Vahl(-Gam) 1:22:53 Vahl? No Gam? gtfoutta here mah boi 4= Apoc/ET/Nova/NF vs BK/Rog/Gam/Cap/X23 1:24:18 Nova will never land stun on BK bruh I guess ppl do it with BTS after BK gets D down, but Nova also has to go first because you might force Cap to taunt if Ikaris goes first then what are ya gonna do huh NF or Emma, hell Cable will do just fine 5++ Cabal/Liz/Emma vs SD/MLF/Emma(-DrS,Pho) 1:25:10 Emma to match, go first and cleanup 6- TW/Kes/OR/VK vs IW 1:26:13 After suffering on Backlash's acc, I had to do it better against this team and safe to say it was done Nearly 18k characters in this comment, yall better read every single one
@@SeggsyJexy lol my Ironman always uses combo skill 3 with kestrel unless she isn't there obviously it's not really general when neither were stunned that's the only thing that makes sense
Make sure you have Iron Patriot's passive T4'd for the Cabal + Apoc + Lizard vs Secret Defenders and Skrull (last battle in the video). Without it, their 2.02 mil team destroyed my 1.65 mil team. After backing out and upgrading IP's passive, it was a cakewalk.
I tried this and HM goes first and get defense up. Then they speed up and destroy me. I checked and I have the same iso class plus my team is larger and the HM team was smaller. What’s the secret to getting the first attacks in?
His bifrost team was alot stronger than the Pegasus team prolly why I always use xtreme xmen to counter nightcrawler always goes first and you can stun whoever I usually go with rescue to stun and then ability block Ironman or kestrel with sunspot then it's smooth sailing from there
You blind as hell, mate. As the above comment stated, it was a 1.2m punch UP. Bigger bf actually struggle more as they have a higher chance of not going below 50% to get evade then DH is able to rewind them esp if he wins the speed coin flip versus IM and goes first then they end up taking 2 turns before you go
6++ Cabal/Kang/Tit vs full OOT 19:20 Small BK so he got deleted. I want to see how big he needs to be to survive this onslaught 2+ Peg/VK(-Kes) vs BF 20:15 Another instance for your pleasure 4+ Cabal/Vul/Emma vs Dorm/Doom/Emma/LDS 21:52 Heres my first instance of cheaper. Unfortunately the enemy team is also cheap. Stay tuned 6 S6 vs SD/Noir(-DrS) 22:33 Another usual counter. I wonder how many dupes I will have at the end of this. I know im uploading multiple WD vs IW lol 2+ Peg/VK(-Kes) vs BF 23:51 Heres about a 800k pu with my lvl90 Peg. trying to undercut this team is not exactly the ideal way to go same with raid. It is manageable if you are lucky 3- WD vs IW 25:49 This bullshit ass Gamora killed 2 of my ppl just before she died, what garbo is that amirite 4++ Cabal/SuS/Emma vs SuS/MLF/ET/OR 28:13 Cabal just smacks, dude. Build them 5= Apoc/Kang/Tit/Kes/Nova vs OOT/RH/QS(-SB,CGR) 28:53 Random "hybrid". Just for fun fight 6+ NW/Liz(-Dagger) vs SD/Noir(-DrS) 30:13 I mentioned DP not being able to delete since she gets rewound, but if youre able to control GRR enough, you can get to him before he ults as I did here. Its not guaranteed of course as I lost this fight twice this week 1+ HM vs DH/Doom(-SW) 31:28 This is what I call raid team luxury cause I didnt care to take these teams up higher than needed and certainly not full 100. HM is going to fall so hard when their dmg gets power crept, but they are certainly fun in the present 3- WD vs IW 32:51 lol I guess heres another one in the same room. I know I got another one in 5. I wrote down how to properly do this fight in a previous vid, but I aint doing it again tonight 4+ Cabal/Kang/Apoc vs OOT 34:43 I did not do basic so I guess I remembered the rm rule. That being said, I didnt have a vuln to capitalize on either so this thicc medieval mf went ham on Cabal 1= MoE vs XX/Dorm/SF(-Gam,Cyc) 35:34 I did too much damage to Forge. Normally you just want him low enough to permakill with Kang. The rm rule allowed me to AB him, but it also allowed him to cleanse. All gud either way, just took a bit to get NC down 2= Peg/VK(-Kes) vs BF 37:25 I fucking knew not to do HM when it was below 2m but nooo, I had to do it first and see. Fookin power fights. Peg Vk ftw much cleaner - at least on this acc 4+ S6 vs OOT/RH/Hulk(-SB,CGR) 38:47 Cant believe this measly ass 5r BK rocked me. I did allow him to live too long I guess 6+ Cabal/Vul/SuS vs DH/QS(-SW) 40:17 Another overkill, shouldve just used Emma so I can move SuS over with Apoc and really overkill 1+ Peg vs Gamma 41:09 I just felt like putting this in. Akin to HM vs DH, raid team rocking mfs. Gamma is pretty weak tho. Even with good enemy targeting against me, they got fucked the fuck up 2+++ Cabal/SuS/Emma vs Peg 42:05 a 1.5m+9 pu eyyyyy that being said, I did NOT like how the beginning went lol these mfs are so fast, but SuS cannot be denied 4- S6/Vul(-Slayer) vs UD/Mys/TM 42:53 Wasnt expecting much, but this did take longer than I wanted 5+ NW vs HM 44:12 This round right here was apparently a 40m pu - which I won by one shotting everything and getting 185 which was weird cause almost every fight felt like this one, just taking way too long for my taste 6+ Apoc/ET/NF vs Dorm/Doom/GRR/CGR/GR 45:44 This mf really put all 3 Ghost Riders in here lol I commend this man for trying it. Fuck CGR, dude shouldve been permakilled. Apoc iso attack always be doing this just like SW. Fix game scopley 1+ MoE/SuS vs XX/Rogue(-Cyc) 46:44 MoE can beat this anyway, but I had SuS available so why not ensure some vp 2++ BF vs Peg 47:45 Watch as my shitty as bifrost punches up 1.2m lol I do like this rock paper scissors raid room meta, but youre fucked if you have bf on def. Peg is the way to go because your opp gets screwed unlike you 3= S6/Apoc/VK(-Liz,Slayer) vs OOT/Doom/BTS(-SB,CGR) 49:18 This DIAMOND ASS DOOOOOM got triggered turn 1. Dont matter tho cause of GGC awesome retaliations (I 7r him after this fight lol), and Cap?? getting the turns. Thats fucking lucky cause I probably wouldve been wiped had BK got them. Note for future reference 4++ Cabal/Vul/Emma vs Dorm/SuS/UD 50:39 This is probably the best showcase I got of the best +2 with Cabal punching the highest so far against a scary team. Git rekt 5= WD vs IW 51:41 this fight should work in any room, no problem. somehow MD managed to go before Nakia 2nd turn in rm1 tho, twas an anamoly. You may ignore 6+ NW/Liz(-Dagger) vs SD/Noir(-DrS) 54:00 Another one I guess. No DP rewind tho so shit went smooth as fuck 1+ MoE vs XX/Rogue(-Gam) 54:58 Forge near death, NC stun, Dorm rewind, Kang ult gg ez pz come on guys 2+ HM vs BF 56:35 I really do prefer Peg/VK over this shit. Power fight tryna get them low, but I was not tunneling anyone so thats on me. Oh well dont let BRB ult is the biggest takeaway here 4= S6/Vul/SuS(-Liz,Slayer) vs S6/Vul/Mys(-Liz,Slayer) 58:14 Dude. Kraven ALWAYS surprises me with his damage. Unfortunately, I was on the receiving end this time as he got tm when he went to red. War of attrition I guess. my turn bar aint moving since SuS and Vul move when everyone got like 0 smh I bought 2d Liz and Kraven today 6+ Cabal/Apoc/Liz vs SD/SuS(-DrS) 59:35 Did not need Apoc for sure. Lizard is another great quick Villain (against spiderverse) to crit for Cabal and get them moving What a fun week. I shall rewrite this line here indicating my W/L for this week, but I'm looking at 9-3 hopefully, just one negative on Kory. damn, i got 3-0, two 2-1, and a 1-2. Lost 2 pts on main, how sad. First impressions are Peg for def in rm1, full offense and efficiency battles are key this season, and build Cabal asap cheers
Hi , what team one shot global without apoc? Can be team iron patriot,lider, black knight ?and who is thee quicksilver, nightqrowler, spider weawer? Or any more?
There is no one shot without them. Best team below including either of those 2 would be Vahl Kang Eternals then maybe Kes or even Hela imo I one shot city after making this vid with Robbie Vulture HL Shang and Negative, but there are plenty of choices to switch in as this section is the easiest. Just make sure you have decent healing
@crossjames9577 not sure, but I will try Doc, GGC, BC, OR, and Apoc. It’s a bit difficult to say for iso as I want to keep the last 3 as striker so Doc skirm and GGC raider
bro can you make a video a walkthrough dd6 global in one shot with players apocalypse, captain America, black knight, quicksilver,captain carter or nightcrawler or spider weaver, please
No and maybe. SW will not get energy for her ult though so I’d use someone else. Also don’t need AM so Nova/OR are better for control and aoe once they’re bunched up
Followed this to a T, and my team tcp is 3.1. However when I did Rhulks special it put Skrull into stealth, so couldn’t target him with Apoc’s ult & eventually he wiped me. Was this horrible rng or because my team is too big? Could I have subbed BK in for someone?
What about a TW/HiveMind combo? 2099 as skirm, AB on SuS to start, would ZIM go next? THinking that manipulating the Gregs with the carnage passive could work? Thoughts@@SeggsyJexy
