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I wish there was a way to make AI finisher reversal rate higher than 100 lol I want wrestlers to generally hit their finisher one time on weekly shows, maybe like 2 or 3 times on PPVs I want them to be going for finishers a lot but not quite hitting them until the very end
Hope you are alright, as well as those in your life given it is not like you to have not followed up with the slider video or any other video over the last 10-11 days so it makes me wonder if something serious happened. All the best.
Hey Rob. I apologize for the delay guys. Something has come up personally. It’s now over and done with and all is good. I appreciate the mind words. I can now get back to working on 9.0
Nice, I'll try these out. Any tips to make ladder matches last longer? They get the belt undone way too quickly to be realistic. I wish they would have included a belt mini game slider set to make that spin faster.
@@console-gamer2418 All good hope everything is alright as well just was curious since i seen you been working at it a lot and i was expecting to see you working on next one soon, but if stuff came up thats understandable irl stuff comes up first before anything else.
Man I don't know if I'm just the unluckiest player ever, but I spent the last hour with the same sliders and followed every direction, and every damn match ends with a regular move 😭😭 The match flow is perfect, but I can't get a single good finish.
I just take control of the superstar in the ring and break the count and then i take the controls off of the superstar who broke the count and now it’s Ai vs Ai again. It’s simple and it only takes a few seconds to do. Sometimes custom matches crash the game thats why I use this method
I’ve never had a custom match crash the game and I had to literally run at least 200-300 by now. Not sure what platform you are in but doesn’t crash in PS5. You shouldn’t have to take control in an AI VS AI match it kills the flow.
Tried these out in 4 exhibition matches (same two wrestlers in all 4) and then for a full card in my universe. Returned to the 6.0 slider set after that. It's not that the sliders are bad as they are fine but I just don't think legend is a good difficulty for AI vs AI because the AI feels like it acts in a terminator way on legend, just super focused on constantly doing moves with hardly any pause in between. This terminator mentality was visible with how many glitched or missed animations I saw in the 11 or 12 matches I watched because the AI was too fast in trying to do move after move that often the opponent wasn't ready for it so to speak. It's kind of hard to explain but just watching a match on legend feels like something is "off" and then going back to hard it feels "right" I also find legend often results in a more than welcomed amount of matches ending on basic moves because an opponent either kicks out of or reverses a finisher near the end so the winning wrestler just has to hit them with some generic move to get the win. This occasionally happens on difficulties below legend but not nearly as much and most below legend matches end on a finisher. Matches on legend were competitive and mainly entertaining yet that terminator mentality the AI has just isn't my thing. One benefit for the most part of legend is that wrestlers seem to use more of their moveset. I say for the most part because this is a negative for certain wrestlers who in real life have a very limited move set and are doing unrealistic things in the game on legend. I meant to try these sliders on hard but forgot to and don't think I will test it out as I still think your 6.0 slider set is great and I have no issues at all with it after dozens and dozens of matches. I guess I like to test out the new sets you produce for curiosity sake even if 6.0 is effectively "perfect" as perfect can be in this game with some of its hardcoded AI issues like excess irish whips that sliders can't fix.
@console-gamer2418 No, not at bro. idk if you had like deleted it from earlier. Nonetheless, you nailed it and posted this video on my description so people can find it under the video.
@@IShatterDreamsGaming Ah okay! Well glad you are enjoying this slider set. I haven’t had much of a reason to work towards an update slider set just yet because loving my results.
@console-gamer2418 it did at times feel one sided idk if that was your idea or maybe just the wrestlers I picked. But I enjoyed that the signatures and finishers weren't as powerful.
@@IShatterDreamsGaming it’s supposed to be less back and forth and keep one wrestler taking control for longer period keeping the match intensity just as high. That’s the goal with slider set 7.0
I've got a mix of these and 6.0 and they work great for the most part. One major issue for me, though. When somebody finishes with a Superkick, they fall down tired, and the AI doesn't know how to crawl to a pin. Every other tired move doesn't do this, but the Superkick has done it every time. 4 times in one match today.
@console-gamer2418 Absolutely. I'm toying with ideas to mitigate the situation so that it happens less. Maybe only using Sweet Chin Music 2 and having the Pin Combo (AI attribute) maxed out. I'm gonna test it when I get some time. Appreciate the work you're doing, man. Thank you.
Good sliders ... question, in the advanced settings under Timed Pin Mini Game, Submissions and Special Referee on default because you didn't go into that portion ....
As you know I love your sliders but I'm having a hard time finding attributes sliders to go with the set. And yes I used your 75/75/80 numbers but it makes lower midcard guys balanced with main eventers. Can you help me
No matter what sliders you use you’ll never have lower mid card guys (under 80 overall) compete with main eventers (90+ overall). This is why I set my divisions according to overall and I have my main eventers competing for the world title. The guys around the 85 overall range competing for my second tier title and the guys closer to or under 80 overall competing for my third tier title. At times yes you may get an upset here and there but I also do adjustments to make mostly everyone in my universe have an overall rating above 78
@@console-gamer2418 well I started using class system attributes and it has mixed results 😅 like a light heavyweight technician and cruiserweight technician has the same rating of 85, meaning guys like Akira tozawa can match up with AJ styles because they're both technicians
Thank you for what you do. Again Great presentation and sharing what you found is best for realism settings. Appreciate the time you put in this and sharing it to others.
Hey dude I came back to give feedback. I really loved your slider settings. I got a rare moment when the CPU set the table on fire, but that only happened when I tested the game's difficulty in Legend mode. Personally, I intend to keep it in "Legend", but keeping the other settings you created. I tested 7.0, but I liked 6.0 better Either way, I really appreciate the time you spent creating the slider settings. I'm Brazilian, I'm using the translator, I apologize for possible confusion in the writing.
Hey man how are you? No need to thank me! I truly love doing this and getting you guys the best sliders I can offer. So far I have a mix. Some people like 6.0 better others like 7.0. The best part is you have the option and I made these sliders with that in mind. Any of my slider sets really aren’t “bad” they are just different. Thank you so much for using them. Means a lot to me. Any other feedback don’t hold back 🤟
@@console-gamer2418 you have a great thing going on here. I'm going to do you a big favor and in my next video I'll link your sliders because they are awesome.
Is there a difference between play now matches and universe matches cause when i use the sliders play now matches are amazing but universe matches end up really bad?
@@joshi5337If you are having issues with your match flow even after you have the right settings put in. Let me know and I’ll see why. Keep in touch man
Mikey great work as always my friend. Have you experienced matches where someone is pinned without the use of a Signature or Finisher? In 6.0 I’ve seen a match or two end after a simple stomp ground grapple 😂. Wonder if a higher pin escape attribute for each wrestler would curb that?
Thank you man. As for the pin without use of sig and or finisher VERY VERY rarely. Now there are a few instances where yes it does happen and still fairly realistic. 1) If the match goes past around the 8-9 minute mark both wrestlers start getting really fatigued and damaged but this also means they hit their finishers prior earlier Or 2) They would hit their finishers / Sig and then maybe not go for the pin right away. Next sequence may be a simple scoop slams and they get the pin after that. These are mainly the only two scenarios I honestly get 99% of the time if they don’t win right after an sig or finisher is hit. Does this make sense to you dude?
You can adjust the post kick out damage recovery and lower it if you feel they are kicking out too early. I feel where I have it set with these sliders it’s the sweet spot but if you prefer to lower it (wrestlers have a harder time getting pinned) then try that dude. I appreciate you using these sliders and hopefully any slider set you use of mine you are getting the same fun I get.
Tested these out for close to a couple hours and while they are fine, I prefer your 6.0 sliders. I find 6.0 provide more consistent back and forth matches that are simply more entertaining to watch. With 7.0, I got a couple matches that were pretty competitive but most of the others were either too one sided or the wrestlers went into long periods of dominating before the other took over. One thing I do when testing out sliders is I run multiple matches between the same wrestlers since this is more likely to make sure one match wasn't a fluke, good or bad. I just got done running Rock vs Austin a few times and after first doing it 2 or 3 times on 7.0, I put 6.0 back to run 2 matches and the 6.0 matches simply felt more like how their real matches back in the day used to go. I think my "issue" with these is that the reversal sliders are too low. Now if this were real pro wrestling then low reversals is definitely better but unfortunately, these games aren't like that so you kind of need reversals to create better and more frequent momentum swings like how it can be in real life. I also think the strike slider is too low as I was noticing too many "grapple" moves on grounded opponents. Sure, most of these "grapple" moves are mainly regular basic moves but they were getting repeated too much compared to when the strike slider is higher and the wrestlers do a better job of mixing in both strikes and "grapple" moves to the grounded opponent. On the last couple matches before I went back to 6.0, I put the strike to your previous 25 from the 5 you have here and this helped with this issue I was seeing. If you're happier with version 7 than 6 then great, as that's good to hear. Me, I'll stick to your excellent 6 which I think you really nailed. Two of the best matches I have ever seen in these 2k games happened with your 6.0 sliders. Thanks for all the work you do and sharing it with others.
Thank you so much for the feedback and yes there isn’t anything wrong with version 6.0 at all. In fact who’s to say I myself won’t go back and forth between 6.0 and 7.0 at times. But yeah your feedback is greatly appreciate man. As long as you are enjoying the game and I can help with that then that’s my goal.
This weekend maybe I can work on a hybrid slider set that is directly in the middle of 6.0 and 7.0. I’ll keep you posted Rob. Once again thank you for the honest feedback.
Signature and finisher sliders have been adjusted as well slightly. Just watch the video in its entirely. If you have any another questions feel free to ask.
Yes this is much better, I have never seen such an ending in any of my matches before. Additionally, the AI doesn't do idle jumps, idle moves, or unnecessary grapple moves that I've seen in previous sliders. Everything looks very balanced. I think this seems like the most important thing to give a realistic look. I can't wait to try it. 👏👏 But do we need to use your superstar settings to see these? Then I think you need to share your superstar settings in detail.
Hey man. Greatly appreciate the comment and thank you for your feedback as well on the other sliders. I been working really hard trying to nail down the most realistic match flow and honestly I think these may be the final print! I’m very happy with these. I just got home from work I’m running another 5-10 more matches to fine tune a few things then the sliders will be uploaded early tomorrow.
Bro you have to change your superstars ai tendencies batista would never go to the top rope to win a match just saying give it a try it makes the game much more enjoyable.
@@console-gamer2418 Oh okay I see you must not really like realistic finishes to matches I’m just saying bro if you fix the superstars tendencies i promise you your matches would be way better and one tip you should turn down ground strikes grapplers to 0 no one focuses on ground moves that much except for submission type superstars
@@console-gamer2418 I enjoy your sliders. What dubc says though isn't about your sliders and is about the specific wrestlers so you could go into the AI attributes section of X wrestler and turn down something that may not be all that realistic. I've had to do it before with Yokozuna since the game had him going to the top rope. Visual Concepts has some jacked up AI tendencies for some wrestlers. I also turn instant recovery down to 1 for everyone since it is so unrealistic. I don't advocate for doing drastic changes to everyone like the guys behind the Hype/DC spreadsheet do and which dubc may also follow. I tested that out on a couple wrestlers and it was an irish whip fest, even more than usual.
In your slider settings, is it possible for the AI to make rare moves like OMG Moments? Characters being thrown around and breaking the show's narrators' desks? I see a lot of repeated combos that end up getting boring. I will test your settings.
No sliders can increase omg moments but these sliders do out on a very intense back and forth match. In fact last night I ran my elimination PPV. I streamed it. Go to my “clips” see what the young bucks did on these sliders in an extreme tag match.
Also I’m currently working on uploading versions 7.0 slider set. This set is just very few minor tweaks to make match flow even better. Version 6.0 is almost 100% so go give these sliders a try and when I upload 7.0 shortly you can just make the few minor tweaks.
This is a great video man! I keep trying different ideas but I think I’m going to do a bigger raw and Smackdown for men and give the women NXT. I’d like to see them hold their own shoe
I love having a large roster with a major show and minor show (also known as my house shows) Thanks for watching man. I look around for new ideas myself. What’s your current setup like?
@@console-gamer2418 I took some inspiration from a couple of your videos for this universe mode I started today and I think I’ve finally nailed it. Raw and SD are the men’s shows. I did a draft with the teams and then the singles and just went by the overall rating in terms of draft order. Both shows are pretty balanced. The women own NXT and that’s where I’ll let the cpu book and I’ll play with match tables and other features I’m not too well versed with. Then I have a house show with all three brands on Saturdays. I set it to where stars below 80 can fight there. Each show has four belts. You got a main belt, singles belt, tag belt, gimmick belt like hardcore and million dollar 😂
I did this in 2k23 because I got annoyed at the count outs or close to count outs. My hope was that the programming was set so they'd go back in at the 8 or so count and there would be a big buffer with it on 20. What happened there is they just stayed out fighting until 16 or 17 and the issue didn't improve that much. I figured 2k24 would be the same so I just made a custom match with no count yet you saying this works will make me try it and see for myself. I ran a couple matches last night and they didn't even really fight outside with it on 20 which was promising but may have simply been coincidence. I'll simply stick to no count though if I see wrestlers fighting to 16 or 17 in some future matches as I test it out. The person(s) at Visual Concepts behind this really needs to let go of their out of the ring fighting obsession and then fighting until far beyond the count of 5. It seemed in early access this issue felt fixed but it has regressed since then. Nobody enjoys seeing solid matches end in count outs or having to take control to prevent it from happening. The main cause of this is from the excess irish whipping in the game, another obsession with the VC employee(s). There's also supposed to be 2 personality traits that help with this but they do jack all. Bold is supposed to mean a wrestler will follow outside and fight yet I have that at 0 on a couple wrestlers that fight a lot outside and nothing changes. Same with discipline. Supposed to stay in the ring or toss an opponent back in the ring but nope, same crap even with it maxed out or close to max. Keep up the good work.
I’m around 30 matches in (AI VS AI) not one count out using this method. This is a game changer because they still in the ring between 6-9 and now with a 20 sec count out all that does it guarantee you that you won’t have one match decided by a dumb count out. Appreciate the feedback dude.
Sad Fact is we shouldn't even have to do this but, yeah had this issue for ages doesn't happen so much like last years but this method will help if the standard set up fails.
100% agree with you. We shouldn’t have to this but I honestly watched over 20 matches now with the 20 sec count out and not one count out at all. It’s refreshing to not worry if a match will be ruined by a dumb count out when in real life we barely see them outside of storyline purposes.
Doesn’t work trust me. Just check my sliders out. I tested that out over and over again. Ring out duration doesn’t affect the time they spend on the outside. It affects the time they spend knocked out.
You must have a magic version of the game because mine and others don't have any ring out slider. There's ROLL OUT but that is for something different.
A fix i think also would be to change evey wrestler ai to 0 for outside strikes and outside grapples.i got a few countouts but also some epic close 10 counts
@@wingedhussar1453 It’s not. Check my slider videos and you won’t see anything regarding “outside” anything. The only thing that is there are “AI STRIKES” and “AI GRAPPLES”.
Thank you so much! I’m happy you are enjoying them. Still at work to try and improve them although I’m having a hard time finding anything to alter at this point because the match flow has been so good.
Issue with no rivalries on is u get to many random matches with no reason or point and then ppvs are random to and having rivalries on makes it tepatitive and boring so yea both suck
You book your own cards. Trust me so much better turned off. Don’t let the game book for you and problem solved and you can create post match cut scenes whenever with this method. I have tons of fun making storylines in my universe due to this.
Hey if that’s what you enjoy that’s fine. Play how you like buddy. I don’t feel it’s realistic for me to have them book matches and rivalries that don’t make sense. That’s just me though.
Hey man. I can’t thank you enough for trying them out. I’m so happy you are enjoying them. I put a lot of work into getting them to where they are today. If you can please like and share to help me get them out to others that are into simulation like we are. Have a great day Mike.
Hey man. I can’t thank you enough for trying them out. I’m so happy you are enjoying them. I put a lot of work into getting them to where they are today. If you can please like and share to help me get them out to others that are into simulation like we are. Have a great day Kaz.
