Unjustified reactions apart, you should have just dumped the roms and released them. To me, the way you say it, it sounds like your plan was to make and sell repro cartridges of these games? Personally I completely disagree with that way of handling it, because the way I see it it would be profiting of preservation without benefiting the original developers, and gate-keeping it. You stalled and brought on the threats, even if I don't agree with them I think you put yourself in that situation
People telling me what to do as if they have some authority over me led to my decision, too. On an internet that loves to point out when people shift opinions on things, I've stood by my stance on ripping and placing other people's content up for download since the heyday of Napster. I don't believe in doing it. Never have and never will. But to clarify what you apparently did not read is that I was working on a LEGAL RELEASE that would have indeed done what you claim I wasn't going to. I made that clear publicly weeks and months before a single a-hole who was upset that I declined his showy public self-invitation to that project made it sound as if I was doing something wrong. His comment is what "brought it on me". Nothing I did or chose to do. It's been almost 5 and a half years since I moved on. I suggest you move on as well, especially if you are going to justify people making threats against me, my family and my home over some video game drama. Differences of opinion aside, there is ZERO excuse for that. What you are saying is like saying "she brought it on herself because of how she was dressed". Because I didn't do what a bunch of strangers demanded I do with my own property then I brought threats upon myself? Eff off with that. Your comment is rife with the exact reasons why I chose to abandon the project and move on. When I've found one-of-a-kind things museum worthy stuff from sports history, entertainment history, etc... I got nothing but love and support and freedom of choice from the communities surrounding that sort of thing. But not with this. I hope to never find another unreleased prototype game again, and if I do... I'm going to tell nobody. Not again.
@@PatrickScottPatterson I've just stumbled upon this randomly, first time hearing about it, all my context were your comments here. I don't know who you are, or who was that brought you trouble, and of course I don't agree with anyone getting harmed, I'm just trying to get the picture. All I have to say is, in my opinion, digital preservation is completely different to something physical like, a concept car, or a ball signed by a player. Those you can't make a copy and have it be the legit, original experience, they're irreplicable. But with software you can, as by design it was meant to be copied, being essentially just a math formula. Uploading it online is the best thing to do, preserving it in as pure and unmodified condition as possible, paying tribute to the developers who couldn't finish it, finally showing the world their hard unrewarded work, and telling the history of its development for it to be safely appreciated without the possible consequence of losing it forever, all while your original development cartridge still stays unique and unreplaceable, very valuable. It's different than Napster piracy where someone is trying to sell something and you're cutting them off from making a living. Here, you're preserving history, and not robbing anyone of any profit. Really I'm sorry to hear what happened to you, you do still sound really shook up, and I can see that you were trying to do the right thing and accidentally brought hatred upon yourself. I'm just really sad to see a piece of videogame history lost, dreaming how it could have been different... If you are to find another unreleased prototype game, you can not tell anyone if you like, but please I beg of you, at least archive it online anonymously
You are making assumptions regarding my reply. For example, I once found THE architectural notebook for a company that designed some of the most famous sports stadiums in the world. Hand written notes, hand drawn designs, never-before-seen concepts for those stadiums that varied big time from the final plans. This wasn't a "signed ball" as you assume. This was in the same vein. But nobody made a big public thing demanding that I scan it all and post it online... or that I send it to them to do so. I was given congrats and support and the freedom to decide what I wanted to do and the time in which to get it done. Then later I found home movies showing very early Disneyland. Same thing here. Disney historians and collectors gave me congrats. No pressure. Nobody threatened to break into my home and steal them if I didn't prioritize sharing them with the world. And eventually, after about six years, I did get them digitized and uploaded... right here on this channel. Right now, I have and have had a master recording from a major all-time legendary recording artist. Fans of this recording artist know I have this. None have demanded that I give it to them. None have demanded that I give it to them. Nobody has pushed me to rip it and share it online. Nobody has called me a bad person for handling this the way I want. Thing is, I did NOT "bring this on myself". I was going through legal channels to do a legal release. The cartridge would have had a game that was as finished as possible from the unfinished versions, along WITH the unfinished versions. The unfinished versions would have been also been made available since I had legal permission to do so. In these efforts I even found someone else with three MORE unfinished versions that would have been incorporated. Nobody seems to be bugging that person. Nobody seems to be bugging the current owner, either. Just me... over a half decade later. But this crap was brought on me by Frank Cifaldi. I'll flat out say it. When I found these, I got a ton of supportive emails. Private conversations from people wanting to help, or just curious. But in came Frank in a big PUBLIC "look at me" post, preaching to me and demanding - not asking - that I give them to him to dump. I took these to the Portland Retro Gaming Expo and did a panel about it. I talked about my plans there. When I asked the room if they would get behind such plans, they almost all said yes. Frank was right there in the front row as one of them. So he knew my plans. I was within 10 feet of him for a total of four or five hours during that event, with the prototypes in a bag slung over my shoulder. He never approached me... he never said one word to me. But then AFTER the event, he publicly lambasted me for not giving the ROMs to him at that event. And two months later, when someone asked him about it on Twitter, he made THE statement that set these people off. "He knows of our offers to help but rejected them, so it's up to him to do the right thing." or something close to that. That statement ignored the facts and made it sound as if the ROMs were in danger. The harassment and threats toward me began that very second and didn't stop for two years. Now when I decided to move on from them, a peer OF Cifaldi at their "museum" was in contact with me about obtaining them. So were the curators of three other museums. But they all dragged their asses. Didn't follow through, despite my wanting them gone ASAP. No sense of urgency by them. So then Cifaldi teamed up with Pat the NES Hack to throw out a BS defamatory clickbait video that... ignores all facts and turns it into something else. Only reason I didn't sue Pat was because his video actually INCREASED my eBay store sales for video games by several hundred percent that weekend. My attorney stated we could prove negligent defamation but we couldn't prove damages. So all that said, why not crawl up Frank's ass for causing this with his statements. Wasn't "brought on myself" it was brought because he's a entitled sore loser that couldn't handle someone not kissing the ring and handling something like this without his self-appointed self. Why not crawl up the ass of his colleague for dragging his ass for over two weeks rather than taking the steps to obtain them, where Frank could have and would have dumped them right away, taking all the attention for himself again? They had their shot and blew it. But nope... here you are, preaching to me over five years later about "what I should have done" without full context or facts. And as I said... the sports collectible people didn't do that to me with the notebook... the Disney historians didn't do that to me with the footage... the music historians aren't doing that to me with the master recording. Only the video game people did that... and now still are. If I ever encounter something like this again... nah. At this point I'm not dumping them, either, but this time because I'm simply not going to give a mob what they demand like that. I'll take it down the street to Heritage Auctions and let the entitled pricks in that space fight it out. And I'm serious with that I say. Instead of replying to me, why not go scold Frank for his decision to whine publicly about me declining to go along with his DEMAND of being involved? Why not scold his "foundation" for blowing their opportunity to obtain them in 2019 anyway? Had he kept his mouth shut and/or had they followed through with me, everyone would have had what they wanted already. Years ago.
@@PatrickScottPatterson I see. Again I didn't know the story, but thanks for explaining it to me, I think I understand it now. I didn't mean to scold you in any way if that's how it sounded like, please forgive me for saying you brought this upon yourself, I can see now that saying that was really rude. I'm just so used to seeing people hog these things for value, y'know how it is, like how those guys were pretty much trying to steal it from you. Still think the way was dumping the ROMs unmodified, I can see why people would worry that you wouldn't do that, but their over-reaction was completely unnecessary. I know how it is! Some dumb online celeb talks crap about you for clickbait, then suddenly you're the bad guy and everyone hates you, it really sucks! Once again sorry to be here harassing you about this, I just saw all the comments around here and got really interested in the story. Made some wrong assumptions at first, but I'm glad you took the time to explain it, I appreciate it. I hope you can forgive me for my mistakes
I appreciate you taking the time to say that after you learn the deeper context. Most will stick to their guns anyway. But here's the greater irony, too. For decades, I would publicly bemoan people who'd turn vintage arcade games into MAME games or bootleg Multicades. I would knock people who turned Coleco tabletop games into Pi emulators. I would criticize people who turned old game consoles into artwork, lunchboxes, clocks and dog ugly lamps. And the gaming community would knock ME for that. Even those who agreed with me would tell me that I "had no right to tell people what to do with their own property" So I found it ironic that same gaming community immediately started to tell me what to do with my own property. And I don't mean that from the standpoint of them sharing their opinion of what I should do, but actually barking orders. Demanding. That's not lost on me, either.
Weird take. The arcade video game industry in North America crashed and burned in 1983-84, but the 1990s was literally full of games that earned more than the 1980s hits did.
I was there, too. That said, tokens were commonly used in arcades long before the crash and frequently during the time reflected in this video. The ticket machines? I hear you on that, but those also allowed a lot of arcades to remain open until Street Fighter, Daytona and NBA Jam came along to pay the bills.
You can see his face go from an articulate, sophisticated intellectual when he's speaking, to an eager, lip-licking child lost in his game when he plays, and I mean that in the most beautiful way possible.
Yes and no, as really none of these games HAD "opening days" back then. Games would slip into the public when they slipped into the public. Dragon's Lair got a big crowd when it first came out... in the places that were able to get it right away, that is. There were backorders, some of which didn't even get filled until the public tired of the game, which they did pretty quickly.
Thank you for this. Nostalgia maximum! The Arcades, the gas stations, the smells, the ppl, the feel, the attitude... Just a magic time. The amount of money i spent as a kid on the Indians Jones temple of doom arcade, could probably suffice Harrison Ford's pension today lol.. Thank you for sharing 💕 💕 😇 P.S cudos for the WarGames music 🎶 🎶 ☺
Props for recognizing the WarGames music. A LOT of people come in here and ask where the songs are from, which makes me sad. Classic movie I'd hope they would have watched.
Sort of. Thor says he did it back when the game was originally on store shelves but nobody believed him. I believe it, given what he did in 1990... the fact he did it here while being distracted... and the fact that many others have gone well beyond this point now.
Man if you had 20 dollars of quarters back then, you really meant business. Hell anything more than 5$ meant you were staying for awhile and planned on having your initials on the High Score.
Well, as I made perfectly clear at the time, my plans were to put together a legal release, but due to a lack of time, constant misinformation posted out there by others and threats and harassment, I canceled those plans.... FIVE years ago now. Shame, too, as I had made headway and I feel it would have been quite a popular thing had I been allowed in peace to complete the journey. Nobody seems to be bugging the people who've had it for over five years about it, though.
@@PatrickScottPattersonDarn, That’s really rough, People didn’t get dumped rom today, Because of some these bad things occurring recently years, Still, I’ve been watched your videos and prediction of prototype unfinished game, Akira Gameboy look good concept game.
One person actually threatened to break into my home and steal them if I didn't dump them within 48 hours of their threat. That's just too far, man. I lost total interest. Unfortunately, this was in large part due to misinformation spread by one pretty big figure in the world of video game preservation, despite him knowing and even once claiming to support my plans. Once he started doing that, nothing I countered with changed many minds, so I pulled the plug and moved on. I'd like to think anyone would.
These tv commercials are fun because they’re video game themed featuring famous fictional video game characters which makes me enjoy these video game commercials even more.