Windy day makes docking difficult. So they weren't professional sailors, so what? They did all right. Leave them alone, at least they were out there doing it and not sat on the sofa like all us commenters....
First thaught is to come along side the wall - extend the line to the mooring attach stern lines then transition to the correct position - no flapping about in a beam wind and no stressing - did good though apart from a tangled line and alot of confused shouting
Oh my god!! Qui sont ces marins du dimanche !! Probablement un voilier de Loc avec des néophytes à bord , heureusement qu'ils étaient au port et qu'on leurs à donner un coup de min ...
What an absolute clusterfuck. Ill prepared to dock a boat in any conditions, much less these. Lines under fenders, failure to cleat off lines, throwing a "clump" of line, instead of a coil- it's just a total mess. Glad that wasn't my boat chartered out to these clowns.
these people should not be allowed to be on the water on there own. Everything that you should not do they did. Unfortunately we always encounter these cowboys in so many harbours around the world.
OMG whats all the fuss about,fair enough unexperienced captain obviously cause once bow was secured to the other boat ,the rest wouldve been simple,all steer/rudder to port side,one good kick of reving the engine, which with the saildrive prop it has it wouldve reacted imedeatly turning the boat 90 degrees side by side to the other boat, specialy when the strong wind wouldve hit stbrd side and helped in turn,then reversed strongly with all steering/rudder to starboard side and quickly securing ropes to aft of other boat and land,and voila u are side by side tied :) ok before anybody starts with all that,yesyes very easy from the keyboard sailors point of veiw etc,i am a profesional captain who owns the same boat but bigger,a 41 foot bavaria,so i know what im talkin about,that wouldve been the right manouver ;) but as i say probably unexperienced captain and crew,so yes i guess simple things can turn complicated in these cases... :/
Not a bad job considering the conditions and having to use the emergency tiller.would have been easier to put a bowline on the stern warp, get the helper ashore to put it over the bollard and use the yachts winch to bring the stern to the quay, rather than have five people ashore pulling there bollocks off.
+pawel goril czech charter crew ... it looks always like this when you sail 1 week per year (including me :D) ... its really windy when the water is like this in the harbour ... I remember I was trying sometihing very similar is Split yacht harbour during Bora ...
There are bunch of heroes and professionals (!) in youtube's comment section judging by just watching the video. This youtube comment culture has to be changed for good.
With only an emergency tiller and windy conditions, the best solution is to remind focused on the main goal: moor the boat safely even if it's not in "required position". Everything else is secondary. In this condition trying to moor the boat with 90° angle of the wind looks to be not the best solution. Come in the wind and moor direcllty on the warf ; a single line at the bow of the ship and on on one warf's boolard and you are safe. Ok, your take 3 or 4 room place, but you are safe. After that, prepare a simple translation using lines in the correct position and enough people to haul the boat parallel to the other boat. It's a common error to stay focused to the initial goal: if the things goes wrong : adapt your project and find simpler solution. And yes, it's clearly windy that day, but not 40 knots in this exact position at this time. They are in the harbour and the wind is lower.
There is no depth. It is 1.5m - 1.8m depth a that point. I would put 4 -5 fenders on port side, approach on starboard side of tied boat with enough speed and let it lay down on it by force of wind. That boat has 2 moorings hooked, and if tiller is not responding then you would just lay down on other boat, no damage. And all of this only and only IF TILER is not responding properly and it is emergency situation. After this buy those guys a drink in Maritimo caffe on other side of bay and party can begin. My 2c.
Seems crazy to try backing up a light Bavaria 36 cruiser (?) in those conditions, especially if there were lazy lines available! Just go bows in, sometimes better if there are shelves or rocks near the wall as there are in a lot of Med harbours. With a loop rigged between the two forward cleats the skipper could nose up to within a metre of the quay, crew member drops the loop over one of the bollards available and then picks up the lazy line. All over except for opening a beer! Stepping off the bow is a bit of a pain but no reason not to switch ends once the wind has dropped. What you learn from experience is that there is more than one way to do things! As someone else commented, even going alongside was an option until it all calmed down as there was so much quay available!
Ian, Care to pass along how you got the pagination working in the web scraper? I would like to know how you did it, I can seem to get it working, looks easy, but I am missing something that's not so quite obvious, for me at least. Thanks!
you need to get that harbor cleaned up before any one will go there. i could not believe how disgusting it was. it had more garbage then new york. it took a long time to get the scum off my boat. Italy! they will tell you they live in the most beautiful place in the world as they fling a bag of garbage out the window of there car! please get it cleaned up. its a nice old city. but its dirty.
Its called med mooring, he should have at least 3X chain out and reverse in. I have a Bavaria 38 and after some years of sailing never had that problem. I am glad that they did not charter my boat, complete plonkers.
You don't use your anchor when there is fitted mooring with lazy lines. And he is on emergency tiller, so the solution to get the mooring line was not an bad approach. There is no drama in this situation, only shouting people...
G R O S S E S H A F E N K I N O V I E L E K Ö C H E V E R D E R B E N D E N B R E I Vollkommen richtig, was Aleš Dimnik sagt: It 's not right to make fool of the sailors in trouble. Statt zu lachen lieber helfen, was die meisten ja wohl auch taten. 0.03 Was die da am Anfang in der Einfahrt machen, weiss ich auch nicht. 0.04 Sie haben die Kurve trotz Notfallpinne gekriegt. Gut so - Platz ist ja auch genug da. 0.35 Anstatt die Muringleine zu nehmen hätten sie erstmal das eigene Boot mit dem anderen Boot verbinden müssen. Dann wäre erstmal Ruhe eingekehrt und das blöde Geschrei wäre verstummt. (diese Leine wird bei 1.05 geworfen, aber sie schaffen es nicht, eine feste Verbindung zwischen den Booten aufzubauen.) 0.50 Warum das Boot Fahrt aufnimmt nach Luv ist mir unverständlich? Unfähiger Steuermann? 0.58 Statt mit den Fendern rumzumachen hätte man mit der Idee von 0.35 zwei Achterleinen auf das andere Boot geworfen und das Heck des Bootes langsam und dieses in aller Ruhe parallel zu dem rechten Boot gezogen. Achterleinen an den Pollern festmachen, dabei logo Luvachter zuerst. Dann Eindampfen in die Achterleinen. Muringleine dichtholen. Fertig.
agree with Andrzej, he is on emergency tiller which is not easy to use ! Defo not 40 knots, more like 15knots max !! For all of you out their who think its easy, then think again ! It is incredibly difficult to moor a yacht in any breeze at all ! never ever think its easy when you watch a sailor try, it takes years of experience and failure !
The worst thing about the sailing community is its propensity to mock inexperienced sailors. These were some very tough conditions and they were faced with a crowd of panicky people who think they know best all shouting conflicting instructions at them. Wind makes the inexperienced panicky and shouty leading to confusion and mistakes. Rather than shouting back why not calm the situation down? Anyway what is the problem? They got in in under 4 minutes and the boat is still floating!
Give the guys a break! They have suffered steering failure and are using the emergency tiller. I've never used one, but I have been told they are extremely difficult to handle. Attempting to moor stern-to in those conditions with the emergency tiller would have been near impossible, so they have used the other boat plus warps. It may not have been pretty, but they got the job done.
I had similar problem with steering wheel last year and I must use emergency tiller. OK, guys made some mistakes but I must say docking with emergency tiller is not so easy, especially in strong side wind. I had docked 38 ft sailing boat in a very narrow marina with emergency tiller - tiller in the middle, throttle handle far on my right side, wind gusts 20 KN + ... very interesting must say...
