the reason they wont do it because they know people will just buy another. Some people dont look for controllers like the gamesir, or other custom controllers.
Actually controller making companies know this problem very well. They use the inferior potentiometers so that when it breaks people buy another controller and thus doubling your profit.
Someone will steal your idea but on it perfect it and say that did it😢... Id rather buy it off you. You sound like a decent reliable chap and not a money hungry business ready to extort us
Why not trying this same experiment on a local lan server with all devices plugged in as ethernet? That should answer the thretical limit and should represent a gamenight/e-sport scenario.
@@MariusHeier1 thanks a lot man and I highly appreciate your work! Your work on controller sticks is what will save my entire project for making the perfect controller for myself!
There are chinese venors already selling "halleffect" replacements at this point. I am wondering though, will the magnetic fields weaken over time and would that wreck them or make the readings really inaccurate?
@@mugogrog For my solution its using the relationship between several hall sensors in one chip so it doesn't matter that much. Unless it loses a lot of its magnetic properties, which takes about 500 years.
Would love to fix my Xbox Elite controller with this. And the two of them I have in my drawer too. Lol. They also have the, either LB or RB, button issue tho.
I seriously dont understand. how carless and retarded do you have to be to have your controller fail in 2 months. say what you will, I've had controllers for over 6 years that are still perfect. a bunch of babies
So considering with he the rest of the stick becomes the weakpoint, couldnt you go overkill and make a new rest of the stick out of something more durable, 3d printed titanium would be quite funny, and then use a different method to self center? more magnets even. like a magnet centered at the bottom to attract, and then a round one like you used around it to push back in, on some sort of tiny rod facing down.
@@florianmaslofski When im done with the new main board with the sensor im using i will work on a new complete stick with electromechanical return to center. Maybe even a full force feedback ministick.
This reminds me of the PS3 controllers, where the controllers had analog sticks with magnetic sensors until around 2012. but to cut costs the controllers started to come with a potentiometer sensor. To this day I have never seen these older PS3 controller models with decentralized analog sticks or coming to me with this defect, only those from 2013 onwards
2nd comment, but different reason. My sticks have a default 20 dead zone to accommodate for this sensitivity. The sticks snap back to the center with the magnets, and the dead zone solves the center issue. Game Sir - Hall Effect stick controllers
@@FreakyHacker64 with 20% dead zone you can solve probably 80% of the drift most people have. Drift will always be a product of deadzone, noise and joysticks ability to go to center with the centering spring.
Thats not really a big problem. Since it uses the magnetic fields relative to itself to calculate the rotation of the field. So if the magnetism decreases it needs to decrease about 50% or something to get into trouble. And that will take approx 500 years or so.
i'm currently watching the video but i like the idea so far, you should offer this technology to virtual reality platforms for their controllers because they would last a lot longer
The reason hall effect sensors aren't used in controllers is because a hall effect sensor costs $1 whereas a potmeter costs $0.20. That's literally the only reason.
from ifixit's video i learnt that ps3 controllers used magnetic sensors...so, we used to have HE joysticks but then the companies downgraded the controllers to sell more controllers to the console owners...what a great business model...
While this is a great upgrade, it's important for everyone to remember that this will not last forever nor will it last a long time under heavy use, hall effect joysticks are much less prone to physical wear but nowhere near immune to it so please keep that in mind before you start doing things to your controller that will void any warranty on them, and for ppl who have problems with their non hall effect joysticks, I recommend you always wash your hands before using them, never eat with them, and try not to be so rough with them, I've had a purple and cobalt blue ps5 controller that's lasted over a year with no stick drift and a cosmic red that lasted about 6 months with very minor stick drift and the only reason I got rid of it was to get the volcanic red, folks take care of your controllers, even hall effect joysticks will get drift and go out
Game controllers only last two months? I've had mine for 3yrs and it works perfectly and I game everyday in place of watching tv what are gamers doing with theirs to only last a few months?
The ps3 fixed the drift problems but the ps5 and 4 brought it back cause its more profitable to the company because the current stick sensors are cheaper and people would buy less controllers if they last longer Planned obsolescence is scummy but they get away with it because there a egotistical company because its no longer demand and supply its supply and demand
Hi, I'm someone who works replacing these potentiometers all day! Fun fact: PS3 Controllers used to come with fancy 4 pin hall effect sensors but it seems like they swapped to the current potentiometer style at some point early on, likely for cost. One thing that can cause drift besides the contact pads is the metal wiper disc inside becoming oxidized (they'll turn different colors like heat treated metal!). You can sometimes clean the disc itself with polishing compound or a fiberglass scratch pen but its usually quicker for us to just swap the green potentiometer out and slap a new one in. Often on controllers from the 360/PS3 era and earlier the actual housing box itself wears out and allows some slop in the stick. Its easy enough to get replacements for them, but its a little more annoying.
What kills me is this is NEW. They JUST started doing this with the current gen shit. PS1, Saturn, Xbox, Xbox 360, PS2, Gamecube... hell even the N64 NEVER DRIFTED. The spring that centered the stick, sure, but never the actual sensor.
