Excellent explanation Cass sensei. I've never thought about tobi ukemi in terms of 4 point contact before, nor the 'falling on to where your foot was'. I'm going to use this to help my students (and myself too!)
after keiko is when the real study starts! 😊 (edit) watching this again, I see how this can be a simple but very helpful exercise to study aiki principles.
People in Aikido have become too afraid to question their methods, its very important we have teachers like this who call out problematic training. We cannot grow if we cannot reflect.
@@XavierDUVAL but do you notoce that in the video, there is not any struvtural integrity at risk? And about the striking, are you just resolving with who is the fastest to strike first? I mean, really?
@@Eternaprimavera73 I’ve been in this position in front of him many times, and I can assure you my physical and mental integrity were always greatly compromised. It also has nothing to do with actual speed, he just moves in a way that makes it very hard to perceive things early enough or to do anything about it
@@XavierDUVAL maybe because you block yourself in a compliance practice. There is no reason not to strike back. Every time this worked with others, never with me. It depends only from your mini, and how much you are submitted to the teacher
Makes lotta sense... The attack itself has no need to be "fought" ... but the "Attacker" himself and his will to attack ... Learning to get outta one's own confort zone is quite "diffucult" ... But it allows to get "The Opponent" outta his too ... And that is "The Issue" ...
Interesting how aikido can quickly accommodate street fighting ethics, like hitting someone when they are down, while allegedly borrowing 'realism' from boxing. Philosophical muddles abound..!
Thanks for this and the other informative video clips. I do have a small concern about training for 'knife attacks'. If you watch real street clips the attacks are nothing like these smooth single foward stabs - they are invariably fast frenzied unfocused slashing. Just run!
Jiyu waza! Go with what's natural in the moment, not a pre-meditated idea of how things are going to go down, for that is what the ego is telling you to do. Good stuff
When the martial arts were traditionally practiced people had swords on their waist. Grabbing someone's wrist was a logical thing to do to try to stop them from drawing their sword. So techniques were made to find ways to be able to draw the sword anyway. Nowadays it serves as a nice starting place to learn how to apply the same principles and then advance to strikes. But I do agree that people don't just hold on and wait. Part of that is being polite for demonstrating purposes, but it becomes a habit to sort of attack without attacking which is an issue for training effectiveness, so I understand where you're coming from!
@@mounirbenallala-nj1ug the thing is Aikido is primarily a healing or spiritual art, not a fighting art. It just came FROM fighting arts, so a lot of those artifacts remain. But people mostly don't train it to be good at combat, but to help overcome their own limbic system. It's a form of meditation, and why people train cooperatively. The benefits of meditative practices apply very well to learning any skill, so if one wants to take that and then learn more about fighting, it gives them a good foundation. My main issue is that these distinctions aren't being discussed or acknowledged and it gets confusing what people are trying to do. It becomes contradictory because they're teaching a meditative practice but then making assumptions about how it would go in a real life or death situation. If people were more clear about their training intention and desired goals, I think there would be less misunderstandings.
@@mounirbenallala-nj1ug ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AwhF136EKKw.htmlsi=VTW8xn6Ste4JuF6I This teacher made everything make way more sense for me.
I respect ur opinion but my vision is to test ur self and put it one the edge to see what it worth isee many aikido masters wher i cam from thy hav 5,dgree and more thy vist japan many times one of them can not hendl one singl punch .
Have you ever put force into or your weight on something that you thought was stationary and it wasn't? And then you suddenly find yourself moving out of balance as the object moves with your force? That's the principle that's often trying to be achieved in techniques like this. As to the effectiveness of the person demonstrating, I can't say without having experienced their execution first hand. Most of the time in dojos like this, the ukes tend not to do a lot to maintain their own center, and kind of go with the first moment of feeling unbalanced and take a roll... It's something that has confused and bothered me for years as a practitioner and caused me to leave the dojo. For me the question is not whether the principles prescribed in Aikido are real, for I have experienced it many times, but whether the way we're training is actually giving us the skills to execute with a noncompliant attacker. And in general what I've found in most Aikido practice, is the answer to that is unfortunately no.
One of my favorite teachers who I had the pleasure of training with explained the concept pretty well in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3xmbbtmPWXI.htmlsi=OckU_eodRFGo_fKQ
@@AK_UK_ awesome! I also have been making some compilation videos involving the teacher on my channel to help consolidate the message, so people don't HAVE to dig through hundreds of videos to understand what's being said.
@@AK_UK_ awesome! I have also been making video compilations to help explain some weird things going on in Aikido and also highlighting issues in the way it's being trained. Not trying to self promote I just want to help clarify a lot of misunderstandings. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AwhF136EKKw.htmlsi=ql_xxsjGe6ddNeTP
I saw him teaching in a dojo, he is a bit blunt and show hasty moves while he demonstrate. As a person that do know martial arts very well I can understand if the whole assemble are confirmed martial artist.. But when I saw him in real life in a dojo with half youngster and half 40-60 year old people with no regards if they were apprentice or newbie he was fast also. He even cracked someone arm, or sent on the ground someone who were looking like an apprentice without warning. As for the refetence, there is other things to say but well.. as a confirmed and quick witted martial artist, the op is right, in real fight, not in a crowded packed dojo under cameras, the real fight end with one hit.