Hello, really impressed with your device that you invented. Did you end up selling any? If you have any for sale we would like to buy two sets for our 2016 chassis Sprinter
I do have to ask whats up with all the pink discoreation all over everything and even inside the watering tubes and what sort of water are you using to top off the cells to be getting calcified batteries? hopefully, that pink discoloration in the tubes is not from terminal cleaner somehow getting in side the batteries and hope you're using good clean DISTILLED Or deionized water and not just some sort of hard water with lime in it like from most wells. That will kill a battery pretty quick
to any one who sees this and wants some decent batteries that are the same size but built a lot tuffer and are over all much better batterys for a lot less money go to Orylles auto parts and search for "Super Start Fleet & Heavy Duty Battery Group Size 903 - 8L16" tho they only have a 3 month warranty which would cover someone if they got a defective battery out the door. BUT even if its only a 3 month warranty from a company that actually honors all their warranties is better then a fake and meaningless warranty from Trojen or other companies. BUT with that said the super start fleet deep cycle batteries are built to even be able to take a real beating and are meant for forklifts and other industrial uses. and they have glass matts between each plate to keep them from shorting out and at just under $300 is a heck of a lot more affordable than them over priced low-quality trojan batteries.
Fuck you for deleting my post I was only telling the truth if you can't handle it then you should not be posting. It's retards like you that are fucking up this world through sheer ignorance and stupidity.
Just wondering what those batteries are sitting on. I have 2 banks of 48v Trojans going on about 5 years now but I built a platform to get them 6in+ off the ground. I was an off-grid solar dealer in Florida for a few years and heard stories of batteries going out quickly due to either direct contact with the ground or even just off the ground. It looks like you have something there but it is hard to tell. One of my customers in Belize had a house similar in construction to your's by looks at least and the builder had their solar battery bank under an interior stairway with vent pipes for the fumes. I imagine that was done for climate protection to keep the batteries cooler. Just sharing. I hope whatever cells you replaced those with are doing great!
I see so many problems with this installation.. you clearly didn’t use tinned lugs, dual wall heat shrink, dialectic grease inside or out to prevent corrosion. And that’s just looking at the battery jumpers.. not to mention you have the whole system is exposed to the elements (in the desert) how often does it drop below freezing there at night and over 100° during the day? Really this system should not be on the outside of the house and the fact you have some cheap box fans zip tied to the door made me laugh! So whoever terminated all that wire had no idea what they were doing. I can’t tell from the video but I’m guessing the wire isn’t tinned either. All of that is garbage and needs to be replaced because it corroded inside and out. I would love to know what the resistance is of those jumpers are? 2-3 ohms at least? They should measure zero ohms! But again, there are a ton of corners you cut here that would have prevented all that corrosion you are getting from leaving it all outside year round but you probably didn’t realize you were cutting them. All of that is garbage and you need to start over.
I ran eight L16 size Rolls Surrette brand batteries in a 48 volt system and got a good 6 years from them before noticing capacity losses. I did get another few year further out of them but they were pretty well had it by then and my power inverter was screaming at me every morning before the sun came up 😆. I did however shallow cycled those batteries, not going below 70 SOC (30%DOD) so that probably made a difference. I replaced them with some AGM batteries and only got 3 years out of the AGM's. I now run Lithium (LFP) batteries and so far I am around 2 years with those batteries and I have had no issues with them.... yet, I am crossing my fingers I will get my 8 to 10 years from them 😬😬
Get reputable lithium cells - there are many seconds out there - Server batteries seem to be the way forward of late or if you feel confident 280ah prismatic - just watch out they really must be kept above freezing when charged
I have always used Trojan batteries for my off-grid home without problems UNTIL the batteries I bought 4 years ago. The 6 batteries I bought 1 month ago will not hold a charge after dark. Not any of them. Trojan was bought by another in 2018. Downhill since.
the charger that you are using its to small for the capacity of batteries you have. thats the issue. I have been using trojan without problems for more than 15 years.
I have been using Trojan batteries for almost 2 decades now for RVs and golf carts. They have been superb, I have had maybe 2 batteries over the years go bad but they take care of it when within warranty.
Too much swearing on public media is not good and will not solve the problem. Getting 2-year out of Trojan batteries itself is a blessing. Lead-acid lifespan is around 2-years anyway. Just move on and get Lithium type anyway
Trojan Batteries are the Best lead acid batteries. In 20+ years of selling them I have had two complaints and the two customers agreed they were at fault. I Love Trojan Batteries!!!!!!
I have ship in Greece i thinkig sell this battery... .. now i dond wond this battery in my shop .... Thenks for this video'you help whit that many cistomers to Keep safe for company do not deserve 1 dolar... if its good maat tell you bring back the battery for exams and whay fall and see problems and fix but no .... Its ok this company its lose... Thenks for video
Thank you for taking time to make this video as I too was just getting ready to purchase 6 Trojan 8 volt batteries and will now get another brand. Thanks again and best of luck.
3:45 I absolutely agree with this. If you can't discharge past 50% without damage to the battery then they shouldn't be advertised as what amounts to double their effective capacity. Also if their "customer service" can't even be bothered to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a one-time 50% discount on a single battery if you have extensive records of maintenance and bought them from a legitimate distributor they don't deserve the overall good reputation and customers they already have. Was just looking at buying a couple Trojan batteries yesterday; this certainly makes me regret not getting them a lot less.
I'm kinda a battery nerd - and I have (had) a few Trojin deep-cell 12v flooded, they were used- and I Found them in the trash dump at 0.000v -- manufactured 4 years before finding them, I have no background information on who-or-how they were used. I was able to recover Both batteries to working conditions - they both ended up Matching ( resting voltage of 12.8v and holding same-ish capacity of 120ah's "new-sold as 150ah's, my cutoff voltage is 11.5v). ----> During the restoration I did a full spray out, (you drain it -save its SA, then use tap water spaying out/ shaking heavily. it by far had the worse looking wast-water iv ever seen.. it took a Gross about of cycles of scrubbing/renting out for the Wast-water to become clear/partial fee. (I filter the SA -thew a paper-towel before refilling it) this leads me to agree with you, it was a manufacturing issue - both batteries looked as if I was the 1st person to ever open the cell's fill-hole.., but what you should get out of this is, I was able to fix-it.. before they met there end-of-life in the Hands of a crazy X-GF, the SA-never got dark or had an issue. I successfully Fixed it.. and it got Years of life after being dropped off for recycling (used the zapping method to recover it, - this shakes it High-voltage at low current for the initial brake-up of the sulfated plats. I do this until 300mila-aps @ 13v, before cleaning, and normal isn't needed after- spray out,- simply trickle charge - 2 week stay on a battery charger completes the desolations ) just hearing what you dealt with, I will never buy a Trojin "NEW" - it's not that they sold a defective product and did not admit to the mistake, it's that they did not exchange the Used-broken battery for a discounted New-battery.. almost every-mainstream manufacturer dose this thew- auto-part stores or wallfart (like die-hard has a 4 year limited, it's a variable % off a replacement under warranty ) this was recorded some years Igo, i would lovupdate-date on how the remaining cells are doing, and how you came to spend Huge $$ on these for Off-grid living.. wdoesdose your setup look like now that you have Yeexperienceperance in battery's ?? - main questionstion ibad-informationrmation lets you to buy batterys that are More-suttied for other applicatinsI , i couldn't think of a worce TYPE of battery to buy for engery-storage. "flooded-Pd" - this is vary 80s to use a flooded-pd.. . and Trojin's premium $$ - you cohaved of went wanth an off-branded non-Chinesee" AGM or GEL, that woulhaveof most-likely gave you the same -if not more, cycle life -under all condition... my favorite disscontted battery brand is Mighty-max , i buy thire Ho-agms's for my cars, (mighty vipers ) and use their Gel-cells for any-remote non-maintaied setup (like my Sicerty campers on the outher-end of the Property - recharging on solar- 5 years and thires all still working, and no issues, - subjected to mild climate of North-californa _
Understand your frustration. I have 6 Trojans, same model, which I use as a backup in case of grid failure. They have been operating for 10 years and are getting tired.When they expire I will look at Li or LiFePo4. In my case I installed a desulfication device BLS and maybe that helped and Use only water from a distiller system that I have. I live in Central America where there is a year round steady mild temperature. In your case if you are trying to power a whole house with only 8 batteries I suspect they are overworked as my 6 typically only power the tv's, fridge, a computer and lights and only for a couple of hours at a time when there is an outage. In your case youi likely cycle your batteries onde per day. In three years it is 1,100 cycles.
Thank you for your video. I had same problems with my Trojan batteries , they started shorting out cells after 6 years. My system consisted of 32 x T105RE as that was the cheapest configuration for $ per watt/hours. I didn’t find out what actually caused the short but I was told that the two common causes are dendrite and material from the plate falling to the bottom of the cell eventually building up till they reach the plate and shorts the out. My system used a SMA sunny island which precisely controlled every aspect of the battery charging/discharging. The system used an average of 15% of the battery capacity every day, that is, between 77% to 92% mostly as this was controlled by the algorithm inside the SMA sunny boy. So from my calculations 6 year = 2190 day Each day battery discharged by 15% that means the equivalent of a full cycle would take 6.66 days 2190/6.66 = total 332 cycles before I started getting problems, not very good! I have replaced all the batteries now with another band similar to the T105. Friends of mine bought second hand 2V Exide light house batteries in the clear plastic case, these lasted him for over 20 years without any shorting. After 20 years their capacity was less than 50% and was replaced.
I think you're doing something wrong. Or your charger isn't right. There's no way you should need to add water every week. I'm off grid too. I have a Trojan L-16 bank that are going on 7 years old. They still work like new. I only need to add water to them about every 3 or 4 months. All cells in my bank always have an SG reading of 1.265 or a bit higher. If I were you, I'd pull that one bad 6 volt batt out and run an equalization on it at 12 volts, and at least 10 amps, for many hours. Check the cells SG to see if it improves as it charges. Note: the sg may drop for awhile. Dont fret, that's normal then it should start to come up. You may be surprised this could bring it back to the level of your other batteries
Want your lead acid batteries to last almost indefinitely? You need two banks. One to charge and one to draw power from. Drawing power and charging simultaneously from the same bank hardens the plates and ruins the batteries.
I just had 8 Trojan 6v batteries fail after 3 years. They should have lasted at least 7 years. I maintained them perfectly. I think the plates they use are too thin. They went cheap over the years. They used to be the best batteries. Now they suck . 1400 bucks down the drain.
They used to be made in America. Not so much nowadays, as far as I know. You can even tell as they literally have gotten lighter over the years, which means the plates are thinner, as you stated. We went with Lithium Iron packs. It was $6k, but so far well worth it as we can drain them all the way down to 10% without any issues, though we usually never really go beyond 30%. And absolutely no maintenance, noise, or fumes. Sadly, it’s made in China, like everything else nowadays :(
Thanks!!! I personally do not trust many companies (or people) NEVER TROJAN NOW! At least RURAL KING warranties their batteries!! Not particularly long lasting, but Warranty is honored!
I found your channel from your Trojan battery video. I was curious to think if it makes a difference on how long batteries will last for solar power banks depending if they are set up parralel compared to series, or vice versa? Does either make a difference longer term?
