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Creating and testing a Horse Racing Lay System
19:54
9 месяцев назад
Creating a horse racing system using data
52:25
9 месяцев назад
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@PeterKTLondon
@PeterKTLondon 13 дней назад
Great insight for newbies to trading. Totally get protecting how data is used for selections as protecting the strategy is understandable but it's a pity the software used wasn't Bet Angel as then the dutching screen could be seen in its entirety and viewers could see what was going on.
@melvinvanuffelen2653
@melvinvanuffelen2653 19 дней назад
What an absolute dog turd of a video. You really watched this and thought to yourself "That's good to upload to RU-vid''? For someone that works ''18 hours a day'' doing IT-related things, you would assume to have an understanding of crunching and squeaking in your video? It happens all throughout! Your intro is way too loud and your narration could really do with a lot less uuuhhmmm. Then your title : LIVE TRADING! How to make £5 PER RACE | Trading using Horse Racing DATA alone. So what data? All we see is you clicking all over the screen and the website where you got your so called ''data'' from. What datapoints do you use and why? Why do you click the trades you click? Why do certain datapoints evolve into the decision that you are taking? Nothing has been answered! I use BetAngel myself and just like you, more or less do, I can go to the - to be placed market - click random back to lay over the screen and make a profit as well. I really don't mind that you want to sell your software, but this way is abysmal!
@CS-pi4gn
@CS-pi4gn 27 дней назад
It would be interesting if you were to split out all the bets from your results in to pre-off and in play bets then take the prices for each and calculate what returns would be to the same level of risk. This should tell you if you have been taking value in the pre-off or in play or both. I think probably its inplay.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 26 дней назад
They are placed in conjunction with each other, the intention is to trade parts of or some of each pre race bet so it would be a completely meaningless activity for me
@AccaNinja
@AccaNinja 27 дней назад
Great update, thanks for all the good work.
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz 29 дней назад
Very interesting watching. I like using the pace and RBD ranks myself
@betman6774
@betman6774 29 дней назад
I have probably missed that part but I can't see how you use the Racing Bet Data for this?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 29 дней назад
Data / Files are on the other screen. Where I have done recordings in the past showing the data people have asked if can show how I execute trades instead
@iainmoran2495
@iainmoran2495 29 дней назад
I would love to see both together. Could you drag the data to the main screen from time to time and talk through how you are using the data? I'd also love to see you create the table you quickly showed on the first video in this series.
@betman6774
@betman6774 29 дней назад
@@iainmoran2495 I second that. 🙂
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 29 дней назад
@@iainmoran2495 I talk through what I am looking at. To execute the trades, record the screen, commentate on what I am doing and also drag Excel screens around all 30 seconds from the of is pushing my multi tasking boundaries :)
@Idkfa17
@Idkfa17 Месяц назад
Hi! Really interesting video! When you decide what to back or lay, is this from data from your site? And how would you know what to look for when you decide what to put money on? I guess you have a ton of experiance in the field which also helps ofc.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
The only guide I am using is the data. There are tons of different approaches, not everyone will be willing to share their exact techniques, but our advanced member telegram room discuss plenty. I use what works for me, different strokes for different folks and all that
@Idkfa17
@Idkfa17 29 дней назад
@@footballbetdata ah yes okay. But essentially you try to predict What odds Will hit, you bet on an odds to hit, and if it does hit that your trade is successful?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 29 дней назад
@@Idkfa17 You've basically just summed up trading :)
@Idkfa17
@Idkfa17 29 дней назад
@@footballbetdata haha gotta start somewhere mate 😅.
@GalgoGB
@GalgoGB 15 дней назад
@@footballbetdata Hello! How can I join the Telegram room? I´m an advanced member.
@pauljones4060
@pauljones4060 Месяц назад
Hi what computer skills would I need to be able to use this data ?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
Depends entirely what you want to do. Data can be obtained from a standalone daily Excel file or using a simple tickbox dashboard sent to screen or excel for further analysis
@pauljones4060
@pauljones4060 Месяц назад
@@footballbetdata Ok thank you . I'll watch some more of the videos and figure out if I need to maybe get some better computer skills first .
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
@@pauljones4060 Best option would be to just give it a go on the site itself and see how you get on
@pauljones4060
@pauljones4060 Месяц назад
@@footballbetdata ok thank you
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz Месяц назад
Excellent work 👏
@nicholasscott1867
@nicholasscott1867 Месяц назад
Nice insight into what's possible, interesting.
@davidhampson1958
@davidhampson1958 Месяц назад
Thanks..for all the improvements that you keep doing...all are very much appreciated...That was a lot quicker...Superb :)
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
Thanks David, not rolled out til tomororw so you must've hit a quiet server spell :)
@BlockFHatter
@BlockFHatter Месяц назад
Brilliant. Thanks.
@iainmoran2495
@iainmoran2495 Месяц назад
Hi Chris, what a brilliant video! Could you do a part 2, showing how you built the table at 1:40 and how you use it to make trading decisions. I think many people would find that useful.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
Today's video will be dropping soon.
@iainmoran2495
@iainmoran2495 Месяц назад
I've just seen today's video, but it's not related to this. Did you mean the next one?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
@@iainmoran2495 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A6sI_MJ3D3A.html
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz Месяц назад
Absolutely fascinating. The pre race download files are gold
@temp911Luke
@temp911Luke Месяц назад
Hi, why did you pick these particular horses at 27:05 : Candy, Mademoioseele, Amerjet ? They didnt have any particularly good stats.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
What stats were you looking at?
@stuarthutchinson2477
@stuarthutchinson2477 Месяц назад
I like the look of this software. Thanks for the vid
@MrinalKumar-yh1yf
@MrinalKumar-yh1yf Месяц назад
What's this software please?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
Its in the video description
@bigmantrades
@bigmantrades Месяц назад
Great Video! 😉
@betman6774
@betman6774 Месяц назад
Great video. A question reg the software: Do you plan on integrating xG at some point? It seems to be more generally available now (for instance Flashscore and other livescore services include it now)?
@dewi89
@dewi89 Месяц назад
Great video, just watched the whole thing. Is this sheet available for purchase for members?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
At the moment it is not commercially availble, the video should help to generate some idea's for members as to how they can analyse and exploit the data either pre game or inplay
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz Месяц назад
Great thank you
@davidhampson1958
@davidhampson1958 Месяц назад
Thanks much appreciated
@TraderperCaso
@TraderperCaso Месяц назад
Maybe I'm missing something here, but how does "Average Home Odds" etc are calculated? Average between different bookmakers? In what point in time? Opening or closing? Thanks
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
All covered on the website www.football-bet-data.com/faq/
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz Месяц назад
Around 1hr 15 - 1hr 20 when on the dashboard you forgot to check all the score predictions which is why you were getting a low output of games. Otherwise a brilliantly insightful video and make perfect sense
@theboilerroom2542
@theboilerroom2542 Месяц назад
thank you for noting - and thanks for positive comment :)
@alexrendell5850
@alexrendell5850 Месяц назад
This is brilliant, thank you. Lots more of these kind of insights would be amazing 👍🏻
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata Месяц назад
I have put out several plea's to members inviting them to share video's, or do a hosted session with me but so far nobody has volunteered. Kind of understandable that people do not want to share their secrets and I wouldn't ever ask them too. Member content is often the best as its not always easy for me to gauge what the appetite is for the content I am providing.
@davidhampson1958
@davidhampson1958 Месяц назад
What happens when you close the pivots do you save them as an excel file and just name them something like slicers...and when you open them will they auto be linked to the data model?
@jmull6328
@jmull6328 2 месяца назад
Excellent, this is brilliant i have been doing horseracing stats for over 10 years but all manually, is it possible to automatically get data from the racingpost
@kennythehatter
@kennythehatter 2 месяца назад
Hi, I've been replicating what you did here purely because I've not done a pivot table before but I get different values e.g. in B5 I get £10.09 and you get £100.20 and in the bottom far right P18 I get £781 and you get £2566? So my values are a lot lower - any idea why that might be? Thanks in advance.
@jonk2532
@jonk2532 2 месяца назад
Great video, quick question, how many years back would you recommend looking at exporting into Excel ?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 2 месяца назад
Depends entirely on what you are wanting to do.
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz 2 месяца назад
Awesome thanks
@davidhampson1958
@davidhampson1958 2 месяца назад
Cheers much appreciated
@MyyKeeBee
@MyyKeeBee 2 месяца назад
Are you able to do this for American horse racing?
@davidhampson1958
@davidhampson1958 3 месяца назад
Much appreciated :)
@workmail7372
@workmail7372 3 месяца назад
Please sorry if I am asking too much,,, which formula is that?
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video. You can use leagues as a filter too and see how certain leagues perform based on odds ranges and scores at set times too. Very useful
@iainmoran2495
@iainmoran2495 3 месяца назад
Excellent, Chris. Very useful.
@alexrendell5850
@alexrendell5850 3 месяца назад
This kind of stuff is pure gold, thank you 👍🏻
@RoyChadwick51
@RoyChadwick51 3 месяца назад
This is a winning strategy ?
@hotcelebsuncovered
@hotcelebsuncovered 4 месяца назад
the knitting the spreadsheets together bit that was not covered is losing me, how do we do that?
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 4 месяца назад
Copy & Paste - its that simple I didn't think it needed covering
@TheMaggsy1
@TheMaggsy1 4 месяца назад
How is this different from Proform etc. What does this give that proform doesn't.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 4 месяца назад
I have no idea what Proform offer so impossible for me to compare and tell you what is differnet other than our annual advanced membership is currently less than £50 a year, I believe they charge £50 a month for their service
@austinmurley8700
@austinmurley8700 4 месяца назад
Interesting video, historical data looks good. Are you able to share any stats on your trading results, like profit, win rate, roi etc for this strategy? Thanks
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz 5 месяцев назад
Really insightful thanks, really like the approach to developing and testing
@TheMaggsy1
@TheMaggsy1 5 месяцев назад
I think this would be too complicated for many people
@TheMaggsy1
@TheMaggsy1 5 месяцев назад
How many years of data is on the database
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 5 месяцев назад
Goes back to 2002
@TheMaggsy1
@TheMaggsy1 5 месяцев назад
What can i do with your software that cant be done with proform and HRB
@duanekellock
@duanekellock 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Always learn something new. Nugget here was back testing alternative months which now sounds so obvious but had never considered it. Yes and no to greys. Yes because the data you guys provide will be right there with little manual collection required. No because what small edge I have will quickly evaporate 😅. Seriously though, the problem with greys is lack of liquidity, so even with the best data at your disposal, if there is little money in the market, people may just give up on the greys. As you say in the video, you need the members to get right behind it to make it worth your while building the data.
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your feedback, Yes if we were to do the dogs it would be purely based on pre off data as there isn't the same in play market opportunities that the horses present, and honestly speaking, although the interest maybe there from a small number of people I’m not sure the opportunity is big enough to make it worth while
@iainmoran2495
@iainmoran2495 5 месяцев назад
Your videos are always excellent, but you've really been knocking it out of the park lately! This one is extremely useful. Could you do an update where you show how to adapt this to analyse more than two crieria?
@dansmith7013
@dansmith7013 5 месяцев назад
Dogs is a great idea but i would of thought Australian horse racing would be more popular and in demand even in the UK
@footballbetdata
@footballbetdata 5 месяцев назад
Possibly, but also a big chunk of change for us to find out, and based on current RBD numbers it wouldn't really be viable, and would be an expensive exercise to find out.
@rubofthegreenz
@rubofthegreenz 5 месяцев назад
Yes please to the dogs 👍🏻