The way the whole album starts with "wasting your time" I USED TO LISTEN TO THIS GODDAMN ALBUM ON REPEAT AND I SPENT 4-5 YEARS OF MY LIFE SUPPORTING HIM AND I AM SO DISAPPOINTED. I hope he just makes a good fucking apology for once and we can all forget this. In school I was referred as a "Walking Wilbur Fanpage" due to how much I would yap about him. And after seeing Shelby's stream, it's like my whole world turned upside down, because I would go to school and people who haven't even heard of him would tap me on the shoulder and go like: "Hey... Uhm... It's about Wilbur" I FUCKING KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAUNT ME ABOUT IT EVERY TIME YOU SEE ME. (No pun intended) This used to be my COMFORT STREAMER/MUSICIAN, OKAY!? Hearing news like this breaks my heart. So if your reading this... I assume you were here for a reason. If you still find comfort in this album. Trust me. I do too.
Wilbur ment so much to me. ( !! I DONT SUPPORT HIM ANYMORE !! ) And it just kinda hurts you know? I can't express how much he ment in words, i wasnt one of those simps, he just ment alot. And it hurts. Especially this album. thank you for keeping this video up, its truely helpful and im incredibly greatful. My heart goes out to Shelby and all the other victims, I hope they can find peace and closure, #Shelbysupport
Hi again. Honestly I hate to be back in this comment section after all this time after something so terrible that he has done. Hmmm... Where to start? Ok. I am listening to this despite everything because it's the only thing I have still truly supporting me. Regardless of whether anyone listens to this again or leaves it forever, it is part of our history. Do not be ashamed of surviving because of the writer, be proud of yourself for fighting on. I don't know what I feel about listening to this music again, but I don't believe that this is his album anymore. Weighing the pros and cons of listening to this drives me up the wall, but I know that I need it (at least for now). To those who say that the signs were there, you may be right, but as someone who grew up in my own living hell, I don't agree entirely. Now to those who hate themselves for continuing to listen, you must come to a decision, but remember, liking songs about self-loathing and written by a terrible person does not make you a terrible person. I am alive at 21 right now, but unfortunately my physical health is worse than it used to be. My mental health was better before the information came out but now? Not great, but I'm trying to live. One last thing. I do not believe that Wilbur should ever be forgiven as no one owes him that. However, I still hope that he becomes a better person, and it could be possible (could be not definite), as I have had friends (including one I see as a brother or cousin) do something unforgivable and become a better person so it never happens again. I am proud of the growth but will never forget where they started from. Wilbur's music saved my life, that's a fact, and I must live with that fact. Wishing everyone well and please remember to support victims (Shelby and any others).
Listening to this again after a long while and fuck it hurts. Jubilee line was special to me for how it meant to my life. Seeing people say "you should've seen this coming." No one saw this coming and it sucks that this is where we're at right now. I remember Wilbur saying that this wasn't his life anymore and that he's gotten better and by god if it hadn't given me hope to get better as well seeing Wilbur happy with where he was was special to me. Now i just don't know anymore. I can't listen to this album anymore like it comforted me in the dead of the night it's just suffocating now
wilbur im gonna miss you man. you were my everything, the only person i actually found comfort listening to. it was amazing. all of this. i finally felt at peace when i first heard this album 3 years ago, and i just... dont know what the fuck to do now. thats all ive got. be better man, please. goodbye.
Is there a video or something that accurately addresses the drama so i can make my own decision on whether I like or dislike Wilbur? Cause ive been a fan of his since forever, and ive been to busy with life to give any attention to drama. But i kinda want to see what the deal is, i mean, he was a detrimental part of my childhood. Anyone remember Milo? Anyway, Carpe Diem. Be free thinkers, i dont know, just please tell me a good video that i can trust, that isnt biased or something
First i wanna say that i 100% support shelby im just here for commenting since i feel like shit and this has always felt like a safe space. (Thank you so much for that, everyone in the comments and whoever left this online <3) I have been losing energy over the past 3 months and im just always tired i dont do anything anymore apart from studying because thats all i have energy for. So whenever i hang out with my friends i have been too tired to actually have a fun time with them, im just a burden now that exhausts everyone im around. Worst part is i feel like if i keep going like this i will lose all these great people i care about and i dont really know what Im supposed to change to get more energy and be fun again for other people. I really want to but im so exhausted and dont know what i would even change.
Well, if I were in your shoes, I'd ask your friends for help. Even just talking to them about how you feel could help. It's a blessing to have a group of people that care about you and support you.
God, I miss this music. I havent listened to any music from him, and I miss it. I'm starting to listen again. I'm just gonna say that even tho he is a shitty person, he made good music, and just because he is a horrible person doesn't mean u can't still listen to his music
@@dizzydragon7910 it was a comment he wrote years ago something along the lines of "you guys rock, i always come back here and read the comments. you'll have a good day, whether it's in a week or a month or a year, and you'll figure out how to roll with these punches life throws. until then, this album will be here and i'll keep making silly little distractions for you. stay comfy :)" i'm missing a bit but that's pretty close i think :D
I’ve come back despite hating wilbur. I was the biggest fan of him forever, and I never knew it would hurt that much to leave this behind. his music helped me through so much, and it got better when i stopped listening. thank you wilbur for the depression, and thank you whoever made this so I can listen and not support him.
Listening for the last time before laying it to rest. I cannot listen to his voice anymore while knowing the immense pain he’s caused in this world. I will cry for one last time, then I will not waste any more time listening to a man who has the capacity to harm others around him so much. I hate you William gold. I didn’t before. I do now. I hope you get help, and I hope you stay far from your victims and the internet. Do not show your face again, YLU don’t deserve a second chance on the internet. Fix yourself before you try to “fix” your career. Selfish and vain, you’ve made your impact, now deal with it.
I just don't believe shelby she couldn't give any evidence and she also accused her 2 ex boyfriends of abuse "speedy and maxgames" i believe she got hurt by wilburs behaviour but i just dont believe he ever abused her. That she likes posts of wilbur to khs is just sad. She says people can't change and depression isnt real, i hate her, i really do, people can change. And why does she come out with this a year later but she kept supporting Will during that year 😔 it just all seems so weird, i dont trust her and i never will. I hope Will gets help for his mental problems and i hope shelby stops lying or atleast shows ANY evidence, much love ♥️
Ngl I'm kinda the same. Like, to me it was dirty of her to randomly backstab him after he spent a year trying to get better and still is trying to. This was between her and him, and she just wanted to punish him. That feels petty to me
this is my first step back into wilburs music after,,,, well you know. this album got me through a lot, and after we found out wilbur was an abuser, i almost instinctively reached toward ycgma. because i knew if i felt like that, i wanted to listen to this. i feel like my time was wasted? if that makes sense to any of you. and of course, its not about me, its not about us. its about the victims. about the people that he hurt. and about his bastard ass who couldnt even properly admit what he'd done wrong, or that he even THOUGHT it was wrong. but the past 4+ years of my life, i dedicated so much time, love, and energy into him and everything he did. ive felt like theres a hole where he used to be. all the early mornings and late nights, waiting for mcc to start or listening to an song the second it dropped. how do i even TRY to look back on all of that without feeling guilty? his partners were suffering while millions of us supported him. i cant imagine how they felt. lovejoy brought me to my favourite genre of music, and it makes me sick to my stomach even thinking about those songs. what do i tell people now when they ask who my favourite artist is? it hasnt been moved down the list or shuffled around, its been ERASED and nothing will ever quite fit into that shape. maybe eventually i can separate the art from the scumbag who created it, but i will never support him again. he will live out the rest of his life hiding from the internet because he knows the second he tries to come back, we will be waiting. people will tear him apart and ill be one of them, and we will enjoy it. he will spend the rest of his life trying to come back from this, and he never will. good riddance. i want this bastard to fucking rot in hell.
I love you :( take care okay? Ik it doesn't mean much but believe me when I say your pain matters too we all looked up to him it's not our fault he wasn't what we thought he was. I doubt he'll ever be coming back but again if he did, as you said, he isn't welcome here anymore. He and his band is as good as dead at this point
The first clip of Shelby's I saw was her talking abt how unclean he was, and I thought nothing of it, but now hearing (and not knowing the full story as I haven't watched the vod) what he did I'm not sure how to react. If he is an abuser, which I suppose he must be, I am truly disappointed. Everything in my life is going terribly. Dealing with abuse myself (not from a partner, but from family), my uncle dying in a hospital bed, the American health system failing me, and losing more people and things than I can count, I am lost and hurt. This album meant and still means a lot to me, but I can't look at anything the same. I just hope I make it out alive and somewhat happy. Wilbur, I hope you actually grow, accept every consequence that comes your way, and take responsibility for your actions. You meant so much to me at one point, and I wish this wasn't true, but alas, everything must come to an end eventually.
This album helped me through so much when i had nobody Especially saline solution was my favorite it helped me so much feel less alone with my health anxiety I hate wilbur for what he did to shelby it's absolutely vile but i pray that he understands what he did is wrong and he becomes a better person sending hugs to everyone <3
His music and streams were a great source of comfort for me. They helped me feel less alone during a time when I had nobody. One of my most recent happy memories is dancing around the kitchen late at night when I was home alone listening to him play music on a live stream. It felt good to be connected to so many people around the world sharing that moment. It was the first time i understood why people even liked live music. I don’t want to remove this album from my playlist, but I feel sadness listening to his voice now instead of joy. He’s the only artist who’s songs I know all the words to, but now the lyrics feel like ash in my mouth knowing the truth behind them
i dont even know what to say about this album, especially after hearing about how much of a bad person wilbur is. i’ll try my best to put my thoughts into words though. (tw) in 2020 i attempted for the first time, and i listened to ycgma before and after i did it. i felt very weird, really somber. listening to this made me feel somewhat better, kind of. though, it felt like it was laughing at me after. like it was saying, “haha, look who’s back.” nonetheless it was there for me when nobody was. what i’m trying to say is this mediocre album made by an abuser helped me get through very tough times where it felt like the world was ending. listening to this album now makes my heart skip a beat, and not in a good way. to think that only a couple years ago a preteen attempted to take their own life, and they listened to these depressing songs before and after doing so. its stupid. i’m sure many others can relate with me though. it pains me to hear what shelby went through, and i hope she’s doing better now. i’m sorry for rambling, i wish i was better at doing this. that’s all i can get out.
This album makes me feel sad sometimes but most times it’s just an empty numbness that reminds me all too well of my ex that I let go without much thought, she didn’t deserve that, and ironic as it is that’s still how I’ve felt about this even a year later, idk if I just miss being a kid and it manifests that or I still love her I just don’t know and because of that when I’m reminded of her I just feel numb about it
Having relied on him for years and then finding out what he did is absolutely saddening. And what shelby had to go through is so sad. He absolutely disgusts me now but I’m giving his music one last listen before I drop him forever. But I’m proud that shelby came out and talked about what she went through i know that must have been hard to talk about. Go support Shelby!!
This hurts.. this really hurts. Ive bonded with people through his music. I learnt so much of myself through it. Slowly got better. His music was always there. Lovejoy and his music gave me something to ground myself with. Theres nothing like his music at least for me. But I'll never be able to listen to it again. I fucking hate him. I hate what he's done. I hate how he couldn't even apologise. I listened to his music coping with finding out my ex cheated on me with a close friend and that same close friend SA'd two of my other friends in the same group. I felt awful because i introduced them to the group. I used wilburs music to cope. Now i want nothing to do with it. Support Victims.
i've know wilbur since 2017, and seeing what he did and what he is behind the cameras, hurts me, after all, i will miss him, i will miss his streams and new albums, i still can't believe that he did that with Shelby and Alice.
I HATE that I keep coming back to this. I’m so glad this is reuploaded so I can still listen to it. Everything with Wilbur was the last straw for my mental health so I’m struggling, supposedly I’m getting counceling but I’m so bad at opening up I don’t know how much she’ll be able to help. I feel bad for all the people I rely on at the moment, and worse for the people who were relying on me. Anyway, vent over. I’m glad I can still listen to this and cry my heart out
i was a fan of wilbur since 2019. then this album and his other songs before lovejoy happened and they brought me a great level of comfort in 2020-2021. that was a horrible time and his music was what i listened to to get through it. saline solution was my favorite from ycgma. i was young, i don't dramatize things and my feelings so much anymore like i did back then (maybe meds also helped). still, the thing he apparently did won't get out of my head and i haven't even watched him in the last few years. we all feel betrayed, i think it's normal to feel this way. give love and support to shelby and take care of yourselves.
for the past few days i've been watching wilburs old vods on an unofficial reupload channel, i know it's fuelling my attachment to him, and i know i need to let go. he is a horrible person, hell, he's the scum of the earth. but he used to comfort me so much. i don't even know why i'm listening to all of his music and watching all his old streams, it just makes me so sad. this album in particular helped me through some of my worst battles and it hurts so fucking bad knowing that someone who helped me has hurt others. i'm so glad shelby spoke up though, including everybody else who fell victim to him. it takes a lot to speak up especially against someone with such a large and supportive fanbase. i'm just so disappointed man. i hope shelby + other victims are able to heal, and i hope wilbur genuinely gets the help he needs, and that the next apology he releases (if any) isn't half-assed like the first one.
This album got me thru some of the toughest times of my life. I can’t believe he did that. I don’t even know if I can listen to his music anymore. Can’t believe he used to bring me comfort ..
if teen edgelords can stan the smiths and bowie and other pretentious/problematic artists, we can enjoy underproduced male manipulator music by one crusty ass minecraft motherfucker. also, lowkey wish former fans would stop making the entire situation about them instead of the real victim. i understand that we all feel betrayed, but the parasocial relationship/over-dependence on an internet presence wasn't ever healthy in the first place.
okay so these songs make so much more sense now,, lololol my heart goes out to shelby, im hoping that she feels so much better now getting his name out of her mouth, she didn't deserve what he did to her another reason to support piracy tho!!! (college applications i dont mean this literally plsplsplsplsp)
Back in 2020 i remember my first time listening to this, i was on a shitty old laptop just trying to forget everything that was going on around me, i was at the lowest point of my life. In a abusive relationship myself, this was my comfort. Now come to find out the artist has been apart of the problem all along. Honestly, the most disappointing part is how Wilbursoot didn’t even try to apologize with a bit of genuine regret, acknowledgment, or emotion in general. So in the end support Shelby, believe victims, and whoever’s listening for whatever reason know what this man did don’t forget it.
i dont wanna make this about me but like these songs hurt so much more knowing the person who was genuinely one of my biggest inspirations is somebody who i cant bring myself to support anymore, and the songs that used to comfort me now have an underlining tainted feeling my heart goes out to shelby just man i wish he didnt go and hurt people and i hope he gets proper help so he can send her the apology she deserves
The actions that he had done were really bad. I hope that he will actually understand it, properly apologize to people he has hurt and take the consequences of his actions and change.
Coming back after literal years, and I am so fucking disgusted and disappointed in Wilbur. I know this ep is in the public domain but I cant even stomach listening to it knowing what he did to Shelby. She didnt deserve that and she is so strong sharing her story. It just hurts to see the person you looked up to and someone you found comfort in be a horrible person behind the scenes. I hope Shelby is able to heal and find her peace.
