Thank you for watching, Doctor. C.C. Johnson's code on my rifle is 51024; I knew the rifle was built in/around 1951 and I suspected it was made for Charles S Landis. Landis had the same customer code for Charlie Parkinson's shop, Ellwood Epps custom shop and Elmer McConnell's gunsmith shop in Elmira, Ontario. You are a walking tome for firearms information, Doctor. Thank you for the clarification on the Black Rat Snake, I had wondered about the "Pilot" name from my grandfather. It has been years and years since I last saw a specimen here in Ontario.

If I could find a reliable supply of Swiss 1 1/2 Fg black powder in Canada, I would use black powder. Smokeless powder is becoming available again after Covid 19, except no shotgun or black powder yet. Thank you for watching.

I talked to several people about getting close ups of their rifles. They were hesitant about about the possibility of appearing on RU-vid. I have to respect their wishes. The best way to see these rifles is for you to attend next year. Thank you for watching.

It was an excellent experience. Life is short, if you can arrange this competition for a holiday or part of a holiday, you will never forget this experience.

Graphite wads were used to hold the powder charge against the primer. During the 1930s and through to the early 1950s, handloaders didn't have reliable access to slower burning powders. As a result, there was significant empty space left in the cartridge between the powder and the bullet. Some handloaders felt that the graphite wads provided some lubrication between shots and lessened throat erosion. Thank you for watching and posing a good question.

The 260 Remington brass is going to be a headache for you, IMHO. You are going to need a forming die to reduce the neck to .224" and you will have to turn the necks down to at least .015" thickness. I suggest using 243 Winchester brass (Lapua would be excellent). You still may need to turn the necks down somewhat, but you won't need a forming die. Also, the barrel on this rifle has a 1 in 20" twist to maximize velocity with sub 50 grain bullets. I hope this helps your decision. Thank you for watching.

@@markcarew6724 Yes Sir, it did. I'll just go with Lapua on this one with a bit of neck turning. I'm gonna go with a 1 in 8 twist or maybe a 1 in 9 twist. I only want to to drive the heavies. Like the 85.5 grains and higher bullets. Thanks! :)

​@@Rico11b Perhaps you can let me know how your project turns out when complete? All the best. MJC

@@markcarew6724 Will do. Right now I'm trying to decide what twist rate I want and what barrel length. I can't decide if I want a 1:8 or 1:9 twist rate. That will depend mostly on the velocity I will get with heavy for caliber bullets. If I can "comfortably" get high speeds at 3250+ with the 88 or 90 grainers then the 1:9 would be fine to use. The more speed you have the less twist you need, but a balance must be struck to sufficiently stabilize the bullet. I REALLY don't want to overspin them, but I don't want to underspin them either. lol.

I ran your numbers through a Berger Bullets stability spreadsheet for a 85.5 grain and 90 grain 0.224" at 3250 fps. According to the calculations, you will need a 1 in 7" twist to stabilize both bullet choices; 1 in 7.25" minimum. The chart indicates that 1 in 9" is far too slow and 1 in 8" is very marginal. Here is a thread on the Middlestead and heavy for caliber bullets. www.longrangehunting.com/threads/22-243.278417/ Or, if you have masochistic tendencies, try the 22-284 Winchester; it was my second choice for this project.

I have had the rifle re-barreled and chambered for 8mm-06 since this video was released. Edwin von Atzigen passed away this past July from complications of dementia, regrettably. Edwin had been suffering from this cruel ailment for the last four years. Thank you for watching and leaving a thoughtful comment.

@@markcarew6724 thank you for the update.

Thank you for watching and leaving a kind comment. This rifle was shooting a 40 grain bullet with a 1 in 20" twist barrel. I will try a 35 grain Hornady bullet next, and then a 30 grain Barnes bullet.

@@markcarew6724 35g will be interesting and I think there are 24g monolithic bullets out there as well

Thank you for watching and leaving a thoughtful comment. I had this rifle custom built for maximum possible velocity. It has a 1 in 20 inch twist, which makes it impossible to stabilize bullets heavier than 50 grains. I had this rifle built to test whether 5000 fps was attainable. The original idea came from Paul Middlestead during the early 1960s; he was using 75 and 80 grain bullets for long range target shooting.

@@markcarew6724 Wow that is a low twist rate. Having something like a 1 in 8 or 9 would be just about ideal for pushing heavy for caliber projectiles at high speeds, even with a shorter barrel they would still be crazy fast. I'm thinking about building a 22-243AI in my next rifle, but it will be to push heavy bullets.

A 22-243 AI sounds like an interesting project. Back in the early 1960s, a gentleman by the name of Clarke built the 224 Clarke by necking the 7x57 to 22 caliber. He used a fast twist barrel to fire his own 90 grain bullets. It might be faster than the project you are considering currently . . .

@@markcarew6724 That sounds wicked. I may as well neck down a 30-06 to .224 and be done with it. LOL.

I believe Clarke experimented with the 30-06 necked to 22 caliber before settling on the 7x57 Mauser case. He found the larger 30 caliber case provided very little velocity gain with severe throat erosion. Although Clarke didn't have access to all the great powders we have now.

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. You will need to go onto the Quigley Match website and request an invitation to the match www.quigleymatch.com/ You will need to go to the BATF website and download a copy of Form 6NIA. Fill in the form carefully and return by email only, along with your copy of the invitation. Make certain you have a valid passport in your possession along with your PAL. Request the invitation in late November, send your completed form 6NIA no later than the end of January. It will take about ten weeks to get your form 6NIA back from the BATF. I hope this helps you.

Your 22 CHeetah is probably similar with very light bullets. This rifle was chambered with a 1 in 20 twist barrel to help with velocity using light bullets. Does your CHeetah use cases with the small rifle primer or large rifle? Thank you for watching and leaving a comment.

@@markcarew6724 good question it wasn't mine but am older gentlemen that I ran into while I was out shooting. I know it used a .308 "remington bench rest case* which is unobtainium now days. I have a 17 mach v that I need to work up loads for.

@jacktrout5807 The 308 Remington Benchrest cases used a small rifle primer. These cases were used by Fred Huntington and Jim Carmichael to create the 22 CHeetah. Hence, the capitalized letters in the cartridge name.

@@markcarew6724 the guy that owned the rifle new him Carmichael I think. The 17 Mach v I got from my uncle. I load for a few that I have to load for.

I expected barrel life to be <400 shots, but at 270 rounds there isn't much throat erosion yet. Thank you for watching.

Thank you, Ghost Rider. This is effectively the top velocity I can achieve to this point. I may be able to fine tune the loads with a Federal 215 primer, at least from an extreme spread view. Primer pockets are still tight, but bolt lift and extraction are quite hard. Thank you for watching.

There were quite a few challenges for this build, most importantly, getting a rifling button made for a 1 in 20" twist. Then Hart Barrels did not want to rifle the barrel for me due to liability concerns. Eventually, Hart agreed after I signed a waiver. Thank you for watching, and save your 243 brass.

Exactly the caliber and grain load I’m dyin to work up. They run 3390-3400fps from my 16” ar

Surprised you made it to 1800

Thank you for watching. These loads are right at the top of safe pressure. The primer pockets are still tight, but bolt lift and extraction are quite hard at this point. The groups are good, even excellent, around 3/8ths to 1/2 inch for five shots. I would like to try Magnum primers to reduce the extreme velocity spreads. I would also like to try 30 grain Barnes bullets next, but I don't know how I will chronograph the results. I can't take credit for this cartridge, it was developed by Paul Middlestead in the 1960s. I merely slowed the rifling twist dramatically to reduce drag on the bullet while in the barrel.

Quite some time ago, I nicknamed this cartridge the "22 Mach V" . . .

Hello, Doctor, my apologies for the late reply. I don't know what is going on with You Tube these days . . . I don't see comments in a timely manner and I often don't get notifications for videos you post.

​@@markcarew6724 I'm having similar issues with the "Tube", they can't seem to figure themselves out with all their new AI options. I've had them unsubscribe some of my oldest supporters.

I hope to meet you next year. Thank you for watching and leaving a thoughtful comment.

Good thing you mentioned that possibility, I will check tomorrow when I try for 5000 cm/second.

Only two groundhogs with this rifle. It makes a hell of a mess. I built this rifle mainly to challenge the 5000 fps barrier. Thank you for watching and leaving a kind comment.

@@markcarew6724 🤣🤣🤣 I was wondering what it would do to a whistle pig

@waynemayle865 It makes a new definition of "red mist".

I'm going to switch back to Federal 215 Match primers, hopefully the extreme spread narrows once again. I have been trying to save those primers for my big magnum cartridges.

@@markcarew6724 That has to be the flattest shooting cartridge I have ever seen. 0-400 just hold on.

At a 100 yard sight-in, it is currently 4 1/2" low at 300 yards. I can see the 300 yard gong struck by the bullet in the riflescope before the recoil pulls me off target.

I had been working with the Hornady 35 grain V-Max, but the Garmin won't read the velocity as it is higher than 5000 fps. The Garmin representative claims they are working on several patches, including a velocity patch for nutcases.

@@markcarew6724 I was running the numbers in the Hornady ballistic calculator and they only go up to 4600 fps. You are a pioneer in the shooting sports. I already knew that:)

Awww, shucks. I just want to find the edge of true possible speed in a semi-conventional rifle.

@@markcarew6724 Anything with the word semi is now banned in NY.

@@michaelbrowne3705 Taking cues from Canada, I expect.

I'm not 100% sure, I believe somewhere around 171st place, so in the top 25% of shooters. I had some bad management on my part at the 605 yards, I had my vernier sighting way too high. I wasted 5 shots figuring out what was wrong. Maybe next year . . . Thank you for watching, Ghost Rider.

@AquaWhale88 Yes, you are quite correct. Sako also built the same model in 22 PPC. There was only one letter prefix with numbers ending at 553. These rifles are quite uncommon in comparison. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your experience with this rifle and caliber.

​@@markcarew6724I just picked up unit A018, 22PPC. Probably the last one I'll ever see for sale, so I went ahead and picked it up. I'll make a video soon with them! Thanks for your video Mark :)

I look forward to your video, all the best - MJC

The wind was wild on Saturday, late afternoon; not much better on Sunday. I agree, it was a blast!

Thank you so much for watching and leaving a kind comment.

Thank you so much for watching.

My apologies for the late reply. At times I had trouble seeing the targets with all that dust in my eyes! The action in my rifle was packed with fine dust, grinding each time I dropped the lever.

@hxccomms777 You seemed to be doing quite well at the most challenging part of the Quigley Match when I was filming on the line. How do you feel you performed through the entire match? I apologize for the crude video, I can't bear to throw away a perfectly functioning camera, despite it developing a small black spot in the lower right of the image. Thank you for watching.

Johnny, I live near Toledo, OH., & it's about 1,500 miles to the ranch from here. I first found out about this match during the winter of 2015-16. I have a nice 1884 Springfield "Trapdoor" .45-70 rifle, so I learned about reloading Black Powder Cartridges, made some phone calls to ask questions, loaded up 100 rounds (not enough-need 48 just for the match), & left on Friday, a week before the match. Fuel pump quit Saturday night near Jackson, MN, so, didn't get there until Tuesday night. Long story short, I only hit 7 out of 48 shots, but had a very good time visiting with veteran shooters & learning about the sport. I went back in 2017, 18 & 21. Because of my wife having health problems, & my age (81), the distance, I probably won't get to go again. If you have the chance, & the desire to do this, do it. Your score doesn't matter, except to you, but the experience is worth every bit of it. I'm glad that I have the memories. Afterwards in 2016, I visited Little Bighorn Battlefield, Cheyenne, WY, a cousin in Littleton, CO, then went to Long Beach, CA to visit family, then Rt.66, Barstow & Needles, then Lincoln & Ft. Sumner, NM (Billy the Kid), Davis gun museum in Claremore, OK then back home, 1,600 miles in 3 weeks, 2 days. Other years, Wagon Box Battlefield, Ft. Phil Kearney, Forsyth Massacre site, Ogden, UT Union Pacific & John Browning Museums, Ft. Robinson, Deadwood, SD & many other historical sites.

My sincere apologies for my late reply. What a wonderful comment, thank you. Doug and I had an adventure getting to the match as well, not as significant as your travels in 2017. Next year we are going to take some extra time and do some more sight seeing in America. Doug and drove 3150 miles in total, from rural Ontario.

It was entertaining as well as enjoyable. There was a much more relaxed atmosphere than at many matches in Canada.

Thank you for watching the crude video. It was an unforgettable experience, I plan to make a video detailing a bit of my personal experience at the match.

You are too kind, I know the video is rather crude. I will make a video soon detailing some of my experiences on the shooting line.

@@markcarew6724 Sounds great 😃👍

I will send you a detailed note this evening. Thank you for watching this crude installment.

Sako rifles are brilliantly accurate; thank you for watching.

Thank you for watching, Al. I was saddened by the recent passing of your father. He was one of my English teachers in high school - all those many years ago.

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment.

Thank you for watching, Artur, I will try to post an update in the next few days.

Thank you for watching, hopefully I'll see you in the store again soon.