Is rather amazing what a sense of success and feeling of competence learning how to shoot well, with anything at all, can bring. And man oh man, everyone has at least the ability to arm up with an assault style shoelace.... and be dangerous if need be. Gen X approved hehehe. Gen X..... we know what is needed to remember..... the kiddies still need us wise sages to remind em how to survive in the prehistoric days...... you know, the days before internet..... HAHA, 1973 BC (before computers). We''ll just MacGyver a deadly weapon from yonder flax or discarded jute baler twine..... hehehe.
Hehehe, too dang sore to sling today after slingin too much yesterday (as if there is such a thing as too much other than physically), so am instead havin a blast with your channel instead. Rock on dude!
Oh yeah, the comfort and feel of the weight is amazing. too heavy.... ugh, rip something, too light, accuracy suffers but still fun, ya get that just right weight...... whoa, deadly. for mine I like to stick to about 1.5-2" diameter.... just feels the best, and throw in some big wierdos and broken but not sharp for the underhand lobs and ricochet effect fun hehehe. Love playing with the different lengths
Whoa...... that humming shot..... can you imagine hearing that comin atcha? hence those whistling bullets eh? Freakin terror weapon...... I like to see that my underhand shots are similar, and the average 9 seconds flight is about same for me. EEEEch wish I wasn't so sore from last session yesterday.. ya make we wanna go out and virtually compete with ya. my target is a boulder about same distance.... got approx 35" sling.... might shorten it a little bit though, it is a little long for the fig 8, tends to make me wanna bend a little wrong too far not so great for the ergonomics.... I think if I shorten to 32 maybe 30" will be the best all around versatility with all methods. the sling sure is a fun thing, and dang is comforting to always have in your pocket or around wrist. Surprises the crap outta anyone that sees, most have never seen anything like it in their lives......... and suprises the heck outta them even with David and Goliath stories, and accounts of historic slingers, unless you see it, is hard to understand how deadly they are. And when a concrete wall crack report from way over there comes to the ear and the dust plume from a boulder from shattering rocks....... is rather terrifying.
I feel the same when I aim for the boulder on the shore across the dam here. My shoulder and back were aching from balearic sidearm and fig 8 the one day, so figured would work on the underhand only and release around hip to avoid any more tearing, man.... felt the same way, by eye, it looks like around very close distance you got goin there, was so happy when I landed had to be like three to 5 feet away, and right under ..... that was worth a little jig for sure.
I think we got like 1" of rain the night before. It was really coming down. It also dried up incredibly fast. Not sure if that is just the dry air, or the combination of dry air and salty lake bed. But, luckily, I didn't need anything amphibious, just a bit of time for it to dry (which is good, since my pickup is only 2wd). And thanks!
Congratulations IronGoober on getting into the 400m club !!! What an amazing achievement. I’m sure you could make it past the record on the right day !!
Thanks man! I appreciate it. Maybe a 50" sling will help. I think one of that netted, very low drag style, I might be able to get it. The kevlar one doesnt' seem to get a whole lot of extra speed, but the thin dyneema one...I think it might.
You and me both! It still feels awkward, the pause at the back swing is what messes me up, you have to pause until the projectile starts swinging downwards which is really difficult if you're used to the other styles that require constant acceleration.
how much does one of your stones or whatever you call them weigh? 400m is a quarter mile, that’s a long way, i’d have to put an air tag in there to find it 😂
It is a sling. I made it. I am indeed throwing a tennis ball with it. If you search for "how to make a sling" you can find many tutorials. Search for 'how to make a 1 minute sling' by Acroballistics. It is a good start.
Slinging is so natural and fun and dangerous, Am so glad I learned and still learn, man, with a leg length, is absolutely astonishingly Dangerous, the power and accuracy with a good weight and long arc is Trebuchet level danger. I burned out my arm doin 200 fig 8, 200 sidearm, and whatever Underhand could stand after burning out...... amazing. So glad I made one for a friend so we go out throwing together. I call my sling up here in Canada..... my 'Assault style shoelace"
Really AMAZING!!! Congratulations!! 👏👏👏👏 You're the living proof how slings are a very underrated implement. By the way, I'm really interested on that sling design you're using here. I wonder if you can show us some tutorial or information on it. Cheers!!!
I asked who made it if he has a tutorial. He said one is in the works. I suppose I could try to make a tutorial. It is just a netted pouch and 0.75mm dyneema fishing line, 5 strand braid for the retention and 3 strand for the release cord.
I see what you did there. Metal darts and non-traditional slings don't count???! I quite agree. To beat Larry's record I think I'd have to use a stone. I'm pretty dang happy to have finally broken 400 though.
Thanks! It would have been fun if you'd been there! But maybe next year. I bet you'd put up some damn good numbers too. And it would be nice to have someone else to help look for them. Finding them is hard!!!
Congrats. I'm not at all experienced in this field, so please forgive any naiveté that I display. This is not a critique at all, it's a question. Well, it's two questions lol. 1. I understand the need for a higher trajectory, but this seems to really mess with your form. My impression is that most of the slingers that I've watched seem to generate a great deal of power from an almost crouched baseball side arm mechanic? I can see some benefit in what feels to me like a "decreasing radius" in that mechanic. To my eye, the higher trajectory not only seems to redirect the chain of "effort" into smaller muscles, it also seems to reduce the potential "radius reduction". In my head, the form for achieving the higher trajectory looks like an off axis crouch, which seems like a terrible idea to me lol. I've helped a couple of people with their drives in discgolf. I started telling them "you don't aim a gun by bending the barrel". The idea was to start with a well formed mechanic for a straight and level drive and tilt the supporting structure. This seemed to help them. 2. Is the above question at all rooted in "reality" lol. I fully expect it to be crazypants....
Hello. I think I sorta understand what you're aiming at. Tell me if I misunderstood. You're basically saying "the strongest throw is a crouching sidearm horizontal throw, you should copy the exact same movements, just tilt your body backwards until your trajectory is steep enough." The simplest sort of response I can think of is that the long range slings Goober is using are simply too long for any sort of crouching throw and would hit the ground behind the thrower in the last swing. He has to lift the slings higher above his head to prevent that. A slightly more nuanced response would be that the biomechanics of other throwing movements don't translate fully into slinging, and those of a sling thrower are very different to other sports. The slinger has to "set up" the swing before s/he can go into the power stroke, which imposes all sorts of differences compared to other throwing movements. Any generalization of the movement probably misses a lot of the important nuances. A slightly spicy response would be that there's a meme running around the internet of someone criticizing an olympic gold medal winner for her form in an olympic pistol shooting competition, saying she shouldn't hold the gun like that because the recoil would hit her in the head. I'd say 420 m is the equivalent of an olympic athlete in slinging.
@@druidofsorrow Thank you! Yeah, I'm in no way criticizing here. I'm just trying to learn. I had a brief run at slinging a year or so ago, but wasn't able to devote the time to it. Time is opening up again and I'm looking forward to picking it back up. I'll learn way more from actually doing it for sure. For me, thinking about it is better than nothing.
Honestly, I'm not too sure that the higher trajectory does hurt. I've measured flat and upward throws with my chronograph and they are very similar. Within the noise if they are, in fact, different. But it's a good thought. The mechanics do have to change a bit, but the fundamentals are still there. Really, all I'm doing is leaning back a bit. But overall, I think it's just a matter of training that specific movement. Like...if javelin throwers were meant to try and stick javelins in as far as possible instead of throw as far as possible, their mechanics would likely change a bit. But still likely follow the same fundamental movements. This isn't much different. Similar to DG throws, too. I'm no biomechanics expert, I just watch videos about throwing and try to apply some of it. Best way to learn is to go mess around with it! Tennis balls in a field are actually a pretty good way to practice distance. As a referenceI can get the 'extra duty' (fuzz) to go about 100m, sometimes more, but you don't need a whole lot of space to practice. It is a good way to practice the mechanics, though the optimal release angle for a tennis ball is a lot shallower than a stone/glande.
420m is incredible man, that all time world record could be in reach! That late acceleration you got with the upward explosion off the block leg looks really good, I can see why you are bombing them
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I feel like there is a useful conversation I could have with you about mechanics. It's closer related to forehand mechanics than backhand, but I still think there are some improvements I could make. On a side note, I also brought some discs out there to warm up my opposite side with... I don't understand how you throw backhand so efficiently ;), my best throws were rolling to 400ft. ;) Maybe I'll have to book you for a virtual coaching session in the near-ish future.
@@IronGoober you're welcome! Overhand mechanics are super interesting to me, I grew up playing QB and watch a lot of pitching stuff on YT these days so that would be a fun conversation. And absolutely, just let me know if you need anything and can also email me (I think my email is shown near end of my last vid) 👍
Damn, adding Iron sand to your concrete mix is genius, I should try that next time I make a batch. Also goddamn that is a great achievement, you've beaten the ol' 400!
Amazing achievement, congradualtions! It does makes me wonder how Larry Bray pulled it off, maybe a little extra length in the sling will do it.. do you know how he measured his world record? was it the same techinique you're using?
Good job! Great spot too. You can soak the concrete in water to make them a bit more heavy. Fired clay got 10-12% heavier by doing so. Salty water ads a couple percent. But lead glands are the best, unless you got like 800 bucks for osmium glands a piece😅
Wow, congratulations, 400 meters is crazy! I've been thinking about slinging across the river Danube which is about 350-370 meters wide where i live. Looks like it's not impossible, but need to train a LOT more for it to be on your level. Also i often get a messy release on my sling. Do you think it is more likely a skill issue, or my sling is not good enough? (i'm only using rocks though, so nothing consistent)
I wouldn't necessarily say 'skill' but one's technique certainly can cause it to release poorly. Smooth acceleration is key is what I've found. And the type of sling does make a difference, as I found out on this trip. Usually I'd just use solid pouch slings. The lightweight release cord and minimal contact with the projectile seemed to help here.
Started slinging bout a month ago, really appreciate your vids, never knew how much fun this was. Now i cant stop, and my son is all about it. Good clean fun!
