Have you ever considered that you are just making these characters to be way stronger than they actually are? I mean I don’t think that Yhwach can even destroy earth with his own power. Also most statements about the soul king’s power is your own speculation
12:42 Nah, you're seriously downplaying Askin. Askin tanked all of yoruichi's and her brother's attacks. In order for Urahara to even damage Askin physically, he had to restructure and enhance his arms and that didn't even hurt askin. You're forgetting that one of Askin's traits is being insanely durable and extremely difficult to kill.
i see we have a hater video. Feats were laid out plainly for all to see and there were plenty of them to go by. If your gripe is with the any specific part of the fight the animation was done just to look dope and isnt actually why madara wins. Madara's wide range of abilities completely counter everything aizen does, has a much better healing factor since all it took was being sliced in half to mitigate aizens abilities. Im sure the power of the attack had something to do with it too but to say madara doesnt have the power to do the same is quite frankly delusional
Naruto used to be my favorite anime. But that changed becuase the fanbase cant stand their characters being weaker than characters Who are obviously stronger. Its sort of the same with one piece fans and gear 5 luffy
I actually commented in the Death Battle episode. I mentioned how the Truth Seeker Orbs don't destroy souls. I read the manga. Both early translated versions and refined versions. As well as watched both Sub and Dub versions. (I even remember Might Guys early translated name for his 8 gates attack, "Night Guy" first translations called it "Midnight Moth") I recall mentioning how the TSO were basically a perfect mix of all elemental types and essentially acted as Chakra Dissolvers. But they don't damage souls. The original comment was even Highlighted for awhile by DB. I love Aizen. I love Madara. But I knew that if they were going to throw the best seen versions of both at each other. Aizen is going to win.
Omg stop it so basically you saying aizen the strongest anime character out there he not even the strongest on bleach can aizen put the entire planet under hypnosis Madara can regenerate before he was a reanimation he could be destroyed unless you destroyed the Castor Ichigo broke out his attack with one swing caught his sword in his hand he in prison now correct 😅stop it please next you say he better than Goku and Vegeta and yall buying this renagann would absorb all those ceros or energy based attacks obito naruto sasuke wipe out 80 perccent of bleach characters yall funny ASF good vid but you biased sound like somebody got aizen poster in room or bleach undies on😮😮😅😅
Another thing ITS CALLED DEATH BATTLE so can yall stop bringing up immortality? It's a what if fight to the death you aizen nerds need to stop complaining😂
I dont think you understand genjustu vs kyoko suigestu cuz its not even genjustu vs kyoko suigestu is sharingan and rinnegan vs suigestu, and with sharingan you can look through the hypnosis
The scariest thing about Mayuri is that he hates fighting and violence, yet in all his fights you can tell he has skills and combat ability even without the science and gadgets. If he ever spent more time actually in the field or training, he would be more complete and dangerous.
1. Higher-dimensional does not equal multiversal. You can very easily have a higher-dimensional character who is actually weaker than a lower-dimensional character. eg Jackie Tristan lacking any higher-dimensional abilities being much stronger than any random Hollow with the higher-dimensional Decorrer ability. To be properly multiversal you also need demonstrably infinite power (and countably infinite power is countably infinite power regardless of dimensionality). 2. There are a lot of degrees of influence over higher-dimensional structures. Abilities like Decorrer and Negacion are pretty low level. Aizen and Ichigo are a much higher level, exhibiting many (but far from all) traits we'd expect of beings whose fundamental existence is higher-dimensional. And incidentally both exhibit basically the same degree, even if their dimensionality and levels of power are different. It's really important that we avoid extrapolating too much from the Deicide arc. 2a. Also, the explanation of dimensionality in the video is... bad. Not truly awful; a lot of it was pretty good, even. But starting the entire thing off by fundamentally not understanding Einstein's notion that time is just another spatial dimension (hence "spacetime") causes a cascade of minor misunderstandings that pervades the entire thing. 3. So what about demonstrably infinite power then? Sadly it's inconsistent and debatable. 20,000 basically powerless souls are enough to threaten the stability of all the worlds? Between that and Ginjo being a Soul King candidate it really doesn't scream infinite power. Did Gremmy actually imagine galaxies, or merely pinpricks of light matching his image of the night's sky (and why was a mere multi-continental meteorite presented as being more impressive)? Are Hueco Mundo and Muken truly infinite in size, or is their description of being endless merely evocative hyperbole? Yhwach can see all timelines, but he can't focus his attention on all of them at once, never mind affect all of them at once (which is precisely what we'd expect of 6D finite power). What about different supposedly multiversal beings having different levels of power, which only makes sense in a finite power regime (or a transfinite regime, but that's a whole other kettle of fish with zero evidence)? Long story short, we haven't actually seen any characters definitively above roughly solar system level.
1. Fullbringers are humans, yes. But spiritually high humans, and all of them had a piece of SK inside them. 3. Bleach is a universe of absolute balance, forget souls, even captains are no exceptions to it. Ginjo is a candidate, but he never will be able to compete with Ichigo in SK position. It'll be like me running a president place with Obama. Gremmy did made stars and galaxies, we had a kubo drawing for it. SS had a Sekiseki Shield made to vaporise outside forces made of Reishi and Reiyoku. Main reason why Quincy invaded them from inside. That Reishi in meteorite was so dense that its capable of bypassing that shield. Yhwach did see everything in future, except his own Ashwalan arrow because of Uryu Antithesis.
@@minthuta3288 1. Saying Jackie inherently has some as yet unexhibted dimensional power is... a take. But fine, I'll come up with a less ambiguous example. Kaidou from One Piece is much stronger than Blueno despite Blueno's Door-Door powers including dimensional abilities. 3a. Finite souls destroying the balance is proof that there isn't infinite power stabilizing the multiverse. Same with Ginjo, who isn't even "transcendent" like Aizen, being able to single-handedly maintain the balance. 3b. Let's be precise here. Grammy created a portal (we can see the edges of the portal) to outer space. Space he created according to CFYOW (else I'd just say he made a portal to orbit). Said space also included light in a pattern consistent with stars and galaxies, despite said stars and galaxies being much too far away for light from them to reach the viewer in the few seconds that space existed. Even if Grammy did create stars and galaxies (he almost certainly didn't), what we saw was not light from them, but light that was part of Grammy's imagination of what outer space looks like. 3c. The sekiseki is a rounding error of less than .1% of the meteors power. Ichigo and the gang blew a hole almost as big as the meteor in a similar weak spot away from the walls themselves with mere borderline large country level power. The Wandenreich would have no trouble smashing their way through the sekiseki if needed, but they had much bigger tactical concerns like gathering intel. 3d. To quote Ichigo's thoughts: "He missed again! He doesn't see everything. If he did he should have been mounting an attack instead of just blocking my strikes! His ability has limitations!" Again, Yhwach has limits on how many futures he can pay effective attention to (and alter) at any given moment. As limits go it's basically impossible for someone with lesser perceptions (or the ability to block them like Mimihagi or the Still Silver) to take advantage of, but it IS further evidence of finite rather than infinite power, and that's what's important here.
@@watcher314159 1. ???, You do know that Fullbringers aren't normal humans, right. They had a part of multiversal being inside them. And why bring one piece here? Humans in op and Bleach are totally different. Especially Fullbringers. 3. SK is the infinite power stabilising the multiverse, there's like statements,facts about konpaku flows and balance. That's one of main reason why SK had to be linchpin. Ginjo candidate status is because he had some of ichigo power and a mixture of Hollow and Shinigami power. He only had one requirement. He won't even get pass through Irazusando gates. 3b. Gremmy made galaxies, there's a sketch of Kubo drawing, Gremmy imaging Galaxies and stars in mind. Gremmy is SK brain. Yhwach wasn't even using everything he had at that point, he merely was playing with Ichigo, that was until His Bankai release. Immediately that was destroyed in every futures.Ashwalan arrow is Yhwach power, its part of him. Mimihagi is his dad hand, and it's power is Stagnation of course it won't work on him. Antithesis is the best counter to Yhwach Almighty . And Yhwach Almighty and SK Almighty are very different in power
@@minthuta3288 1. Completely missing the point here. And elsewhere. 3a. Nope. Like, correct about konpaku flows and the like, but in no way is the balancing power of the Soul King infinite, else merely finite power would fail to disturb said balance. 3b. You mean the one with the melon-sized planet and marble-sized stars orbiting him? Not even remotely in the same order of magnitude of orders of magnitude, dude. 3c. "Zangetsu... Of course... So what I saw that time was the future seen with my own eyes. I thought it was a dream you made me see... Haschwalth." If he could pay attention to all futures at once he wouldn't be subject to such misinterpretations, because he'd automatically be double-checking everything constantly.
@@watcher314159 1. It'll be like comparing Six paths Naruto and White Masked Obito. WMO has a dimension and capable of travelling, Yes. Is he stronger than Naruto, No. Simple as that. 3b. I don't really know you read Bleach or not but, SK as a linchpin is to maintain the state of the universe, all realms and boundaries are relying on him and his Almighty. Konpaku flows is also important and need to be balanced. 2000 souls aren't capable of throwing the universe into chaos, but it'll probably cause unnecessary problems. Except for millions or billions of souls merging or dying in one moment. That's the real problem. Bleach universe is unnatural and has a mind and will of its own. 3c. At first you said, they are merely lights reflected, and he is only merely opening a portal. Now, what the hell is this absurdity of yours. 3d. That's because of Yhwach Arrogance and his Pride. You are right, if he minds it he could probably do anything, but he is soo full of himself at that moment. And being hit by Ashwalan arrow and Zangetsu isn't helping him enough. Antithesis messing with him too. Not Almighty fault,
Okay this may be wrong, but i feel like Kyoka Suigetsu is kind of like Infinite Tsukiyomi. It doesn't matter how good at Genjutsu or how powerful you are, if you see the source of it, you're under it.
even if lets say the truth seeking orbs destroy all matter from existence, Aizen wouldn't even come close to being touched by one cause how do you hit someone who hypnotizes you 24/7
Fun video despite the fact that every thing you said can be applied in reverse as well and thats what death battle did also universal bleach???? Whats wrong with everyone here
Your video is fine, But is something that you forget, Maybe because is nota real tecniche of Madara and requieres outside circumstanes. But infinite tsukuyomi could beat Aizen, is also a perfect Ilusion, you cannot escape, unless you have a medium to escape, like other rinnegan, and take your power. So, it this hit Aizen this could mean that Aizen would believe he won, until all his power is take or, that his power is infinite and he will be in the illusion forever. If Madara is also in a Illusion so both will be forever in an Ilsion, but Illusion from Aizen allows more freedom. So, Madara could still win.
Yeah, Death Battle gets it right sometimes but they were clowns for this one. It's not even close and IDK how anyone actually thought it would be competitive, let alone Madara winning 💀💀💀
Yeah, death battle has definitely botched up some Naruto episodes in the verse's favor (As much as I like the episode Darth Vader vs Obito, they got the victor wrong as proved by another video). However I don't know much about either series but an old friend told me that the reason Madara won is because some of Aizen's immortality or something that would normally give Aizen the win was a no limits fallacy. I feel like that same argument can be used for something like Saitama vs Popeye though lol
This seems like a pretty big highball, cause of the wank of the dimensions in bleach. Scaling to universal+ to low multiversal with 4d dimensionality seems much more consistent narrative wise and based on said feats. Very informative video tho
This matchup in furious me on so many levels because if you actually look into the research and power scale both characters which I have done, Aizen quite literally outclasses Madara in every possible category you can think of and there's also the teeny tiny little problem of Madara can't kill him because he's immortal but he's a mortal in the sense of there's no way to kill him something Central 46 in the bleach universe said that's why they had to lock him away because they couldn't kill him. And what further irritates me is they try to claim that Madara is planet level but if you remember Naruto versus Ichigo they said that Madara and kaguya were not planet busters so they can never be consistent from episode to episode.
Man idk why you even debunk death battle. Literally everyone knows they suck at getting their information and they just go with the one that has a bigger fan base
Like with ichigo vs naruto and how they thought his mugetsu was his strongest form even tho they completely missed the fact that his true shika was already much stronger then mugetsu😂
Eh not entirely true they did so many goku vs superman death battles and goku lost every single one i can name more accurate death batttles, see the thing alot of you dont understand is that death battle literally mainly scale feats and not really hax thats why aizen lost cuz madara just had more impressive feats while aizen just bullies his verse
