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Well, don't let expensive cigars dry out in the first place. If you inherit a bunch a seemingly ruined expensive cigars, as we did, this video is meant to share a way to save them instead of throwing them away.
@@drinkupburndown this could burst the wrapper of many dry cigars, especially expensive ones. Don't do it. Pre embargo experts increase the humidity by 2rh per week from like 50 or so. Don't do it if you have expensive cigars.
Technically possible for those that live in hotter climates. We're filming from Southern California, very temperate, and not an issue. Process used on very expensive Cohiba Cubans and worked perfectly. But, for those in very hot climates, yes this science of potentially bursting a wrapper is accurate.
In a comment in the first video you mention that, "we've typically seen about a 10-20% decline in quality of flavor". In this video it seems that that decline was around 5%. You guys seem to be one of the only resources out there that actually went through the process, which took months. Most people just say that the oils are gone and that old, dried cigars are ruined. So, based on your experience, what would you say outcome would be for someone starting out the process? I've put them in a tupperdore with an 84% Boveda. How long should I keep them at that humidity? When should I smoke one to see if the process is working? Any other tips or recommendations? I was about to throw the cigars in the trash before I saw your video. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
We love to hear it! If it's an air-tight tupperware or container, change out the 84 boveda pack every couple of weeks. We've seen them last 2-3 weeks in most cases before needing a swap ( we have another video on reviving boveda packs that's worth a watch so you can get 3 and put them in rotation). The first time any of us used our process we let them stay in the container for a out 6 months, only opening to swap boveda packs and confirm the humidity (be sure to have a hydrometer to gauge the humidity level each time you open. This time when we did this video we actually all agreed they were wet and soft to the touch enough at only 3 months. Then, put them in the normal humidor with a regular 69 boveda pack for at least 3 months to bring them back to the proper level. We actually let them sit for a year to be extra cautious, but we all also have 100+ cigars ready to smoke across humidors at any given time, so we weren't in a rush. Honestly, letting them sit that extra 6-9 months is probably why we only noticed a 5% flavor loss, rather than the 10-20% loss we were used to seeing when we first tested the process. Good luck, and please share your experience and how it goes! We love hearing success stories, and viewers can always learn more if you find something we didn't mention that may be useful.
Not worth it on $5 cigars???? The humidy pack is only $10 on Amazon. $5 is $5 and I don't throw money away. If it was only a couple of cigars then sure.
Would be super convenient to buy or use a metal or silicon trivet (like you use on your countertop to place hot dishes on), placed over the bowl to hold up the packs.
If you followed the entire process, it'll work. We've done this process several times. The video surprise was genuine in that it was fresh and unknown, but we already knew the process works. Goof luck! May they come out brand new!
Not yet among all three of us. Of course, we also confirm the wrappers are not cracked before reviving in the first place and are extremely careful in moving the sticks into the containers so they do not crack on tranfer.
@@drinkupburndown Sounds good. I’ve read once (I can’t recall the source sadly) that a sudden increase in moisture can cause cracking, hence my asking. I’ll keep this method in mind if the day comes where I’d need to employ it. Thank you for sharing!
$8-$10, check out this Macanudo, at $5 a stick if you're willing to buy a box of 20. Get the corona box to start. Great starter cigar! www.cigarsinternational.com/p/macanudo-inspirado-white-cigars/1509248/
i love the concept also nice execution , i even bought the airtight containers to go ahead with this, and then i have heard boveda claiming, that this method actually makes the packs way over humified (they say up to 90%) and also makes them release the humidity at a much higher rate, as the original salts that normally let the moist release gradually are all trapped in the corners of the bag and they are not saturated properly in the newly added moist. there is a video on this, starting at 7:30 to about 8:20 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xtqUFRZL6zI.html of course this is coming from a Boveda employee, so naturally why would he not talk up againts something that is clearly bad for their business. so i take it with a pinch of salt (no pun intended) of course. still , you doing this, apperently pretty regularly and systematically, would you be able to confirm any of these worries, or do the packs work just like they did when you bought them in your experience? many thanks
I just posted a comment on the video referenced to agree with several other comments that Boveda is inaccurate. Of course they won't support reviving packs! We won't need to buy them until we amass more humidors to us more of them. Try the process with a 69 or 72 pack, put them back into your humidor after reviving, and reply back to let us know if you're humidor spike to anything close to 80-90% like the guy is suggesting. After reviving, give a few squishes and shakes and science alone will debunk the idea that salt does not dissolve in the water. Thank you for sharing the video link so we can check it out! The rest of the video was excellent for how to season a humidor.
If you put those cigars into a humidor that’s set at the average 65-70% humidity with your collection they won’t go down to that level, they will stay as moist as they are now and any heat you put to them in the future will burst them open.
Watch the update and you'll see that this comment is 100% inaccurate. This process works, and revived the cigars so well they were nearly the same as before drying out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V-xoydTuNHQ.html
That would depend on the size of the ceramic bowl. We were reviving 3 large packs at the same time, and had a bowl that they would have fallen into. The mesh ensures that the packs stay above the bowl, even when the packs are revived and soften.
very helpful, i just got a 2.3 liter airtight lid container and 4 packs of boveda, just over 20 bucks will get me up and around 40 dried out vintage davidoffs if all goes well. not too shabby:)
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! We just recorded the one year update on these cigars and will post the new video soon. Honestly, they came back to about 95% of the original flavor!
@@drinkupburndown thats awesome, looking forward to that vid. i just stumbled uppon a 5 star hotel LOOOONG out-of-business 5 feet tall glass door humidor. asked the owner about it, he said they put it downstairs from the bar area after the indoor ban on smoking (so around early 90s in switzerland). long story short, we agreed a price on the whole thing with 56 amazing cigars from the 90s transported to me. a lot of vintage davidoff epicures, but even some oddball items like L de W , which was a swiss founded premium brand based in honduras that went out of business in 2005. for sure it will be a long journey, but I hope by the end of the summer I can light up the first few ones. will check back to comment. keep up the great vids, I really like this friendly laid back style when it comes to cigars. even tho im swiss, i dont like a know-it-all , snobish attitude. cigars are for everyone and the main idea , i would say, is stress management of everyday life. so i like that you guys are chill:)
Yes it did. While not 100% necessary, there was another good comment about weighing the packs when new and noting the weight, then reviving them back to the same. This will ensure you're always bringing them back to the original starting point.
Once over humidified, place them in your regular humidor and let them come back to normal for 3-6 months. We let these ones age for a full year, and will post the update soon (just recorded it). Came back to about 95% of the original flavor. Excellent!
@@drinkupburndown Thanks for the tip! I had a few good cigars that got dried due to traveling in Europe. I'll definitely try to bring them back with these methods
my friend brought me cigars from Cuba and I got them 30 days later. Is that time frame some what normal or would you recommend air-tight them with bodegas as well? thanks in advance !
Eight days should be fine. Just drop them into your humidor at your preferred humidity range for a few days and you should be good. No need to over humidify.
Go with what works! We're not suggesting to do anything other than what works for you. What this is about is a way to bring a cigar back to near-original flavor after it dried out. If something works for you, and the cigar tastes just like new, run with that...
Very very wrong way to do.. you do not through your dry cigar in such a high humidity environment. You have to slowly raise the humidification!!! 55% for month then 60% then 65% and last 70%. Every month just bring by 5%. Yes it will take you 4 month. But I'm sorry you cannot just throw dry cigars in 84% humidity... this is not how you rehydrate cigars this is not how you bring them back to life !
Come smoke a cigar with us rookie... The cigar is going to rise in humidity naturally as it can. The 5% model outlined, in our experience and having tried already, will work slowly, though is less efficient. You can absolutely humidify up then drop in a humidor and bring back to natural and have an amazing cigar. We'll post the follow-up soon to demonstrate, but check your science before posting a nonsense rebuttal like this.
Its not nonsense, and calling someone "rookie" as a rebuttal shows the type of person you are. You clearly haven't dealt with enough cigars to understand what rapid expansion of the wrapper due to a high humidity shock will do. Hell you called him a rookie but are still using traditional humidors like its 1960 and needing someone to recommend how to store those because you're not expierenced enough to know why Tupperware humidor are superior. Check yourself bud. @drinkupburndown
As left in a similar comment, always go with the technique that works best for you. In our experience, the extra moisture will start to deteriorate the pack much earlier. Thank you for sharing!
In our experience that works for a time, but eventually the packs start to break down a lot earlier from the added moisture. As in all things, though, with the technique that seems to work best for you! Thank you for sharing!
@@drinkupburndown My presumption is that @MichaelKing-kc1fd is suggesting that if the pouches go in the bowl and the water goes into the tupperware but not the bowl (so around it), you should get the same effect without the mesh. Have you tested this particular method at all? By the way thanks for this video; throwing out the packs always feels like such a waste!
Yes, thinking of it in that perspective, with enough space around the bowl of water to fit the packs outside the bowl, the humidity in the container should refill the packs in about the same time. That will work similar to the example for the smaller packs, just in a larger container. Great catch and thank you for calling it out!
Great question! Absolutely, it just takes more frequent monitoring, and you still risk not having the full cigar (inside out) not getting to the right level of humidity. We'd still suggest over hydration to a least the low 70s if monitoring weekly instead of monthly, then bringing them back to 60-70 (based on your preferences), which can all be done in 2-3 months based on dryness.
Iv read that when a cigar get dried out it also loses some of the oils in the leaves and the taste will never be the same as the original ... Is this true?
Great question. Typically yes, that is the case. We're at the 6 month mark since this video and will be recording an update very soon after bringing the humidity back to normal. We'll discuss this during the video, but we've typically seen about a 10-20% decline in quality of flavor. Well worth reviving in our opinion, but always best to just take care of the cigars in the first place!
Please elaborate. Good hydration packs may last a couple weeks to several weeks, depending on the humidor and how well seasoned it is. The wood will pull moisture from the packs as well if not properly seasoned, so pack life may vary. This is why we're also keen on reviving packs to save money over time.
@@drinkupburndown Looking forward to it. I've got some sticks re-hydrating now I'll be checking on periodically. And shout out to Paul's Boveda re-hydrate technique, on point and no soaked packs!
We love it! Great to see the process working for more viewers! Check out the comment from @johnsnyder7581 in the Boveda Pack video too. We didn't mention weighing new packs in the video, but it's great tip for those looking to keep the packs at the perfect level.
The update is live. Those cigars came back to life in incredible fashion! Notably, we waited a full year in the normal humidor for extra care. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V-xoydTuNHQ.html
Great comment and advice we didn't include in the video! Thank you for sharing! For the record, you cannot over-humidify a Boveda pack. As long as the outside surface of the pack keeps its integrity, inflating it further just adds to the life. If you don't believe it, just test...over inflate, then put into a humidor with a hydrometer and see what happens. It'll be the same as when the Boveda pack was brand new!
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